OBJ playing with his Richard Mille

[huncho]

Originally Posted by ~JJ

Sounds like he broke league rules by wearing it and the issue is now under review. Pretty unimpressed if he and RM planned on breaking rules for a publicity stunt.

lol its 100% a publicity stunt. he's a hypebeast

there are athletes and rappers that are actually into sneakers and watches but he's not one of them. not that there's anything wrong with that though

[emersm]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

Money can't buy class, and OBJ is about as classless as they come. Hope the Browns go 0-16. Giants are so much better off with that cancer gone.

. Browns fan here.

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by emersm

. Browns fan here.

Sorry. My comment was more aimed at Beckham and his douchery than the Browns. You all have suffered with mediocre teams for far too long. As a Giants fan, OBJ had moments of sheer awesomeness but it was erased by his immature shenanigans and temper tantrums.

[emersm]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

Sorry. My comment was more aimed at Beckham and his douchery than the Browns. You all have suffered with mediocre teams for far too long. As a Giants fan, OBJ had moments of sheer awesomeness but it was erased by his immature shenanigans and temper tantrums.

Thanks.

[SunTzu]

Originally Posted by bremersm

I se that after all the hype the Browns are same old same old.

Win or lose as a Giants fan I am glad that ODB is no longer in NY,

Originally Posted by Chiboy

Great talent, but I never liked that guy. Can't say I wish him well in Cleveland. Tough weekend for me as a Bears/Giants fan...

Huge Giants fan here too. Not surprised by yesterday's results, sadly. OBJ is too much of a head case to keep around. Wearing that watch was off the hook.

Chiboy, every day I go to the deli for lunch and my buddy behind the counter is a die hard Bears fan. We both just shook our head in shame today, lol. He's a single dad and named his daughter Payton after Walter "Sweetness" Payton

[Chiboy]

Originally Posted by SunTzu

Chiboy, every day I go to the deli for lunch and my buddy behind the counter is a die hard Bears fan. We both just shook our head in shame today, lol. He's a single dad and named his daughter Payton after Walter "Sweetness" Payton

While it's awfully early in the season, I think this week we'll find out if the GB game was a fluky bad game, or if the Bears are "not what we thought they would be."

Glad your friend didn't name his daughter "Sweetness."

[V25V]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

Money can't buy class, and OBJ is about as classless as they come. Hope the Browns go 0-16. Giants are so much better off with that cancer gone.

Yeah but he still gets paid on the ass. They don't care, thats the problem with the NFL.

[Ballzzz]

Originally Posted by V25V

Yeah but he still gets paid on the ass. They don't care, thats the problem with the NFL.

It's not the NFL's problem, the NFL provides a plaform. The owners/gm's who sign the players have to weigh out what comes with each player. In the case of classless, childish, selfish people such as OBJ his skill level is high enough they are willing to deal with the antics roadshow he resides over.

Just like Kaepernick if the skill isn't there, you will not have a job with all the extra antics.

[V25V]

Originally Posted by Ballzzz

It's not the NFL's problem, the NFL provides a plaform. The owners/gm's who sign the players have to weigh out what comes with each player. In the case of classless, childish, selfish people such as OBJ his skill level is high enough they are willing to deal with the antics roadshow he resides over.

Just like Kaepernick if the skill isn't there, you will not have a job with all the extra antics.

Yeah.... we will have to agree to disagree on this. I have heard your argument before and cannot get there. Until these contracts become pay for performance (not just bonus targets), they have no incentive to work hard and/or behave like professionals. I have lost all interest in the NFL over the past 2 years, I cannot believe I am the only one.

[Ballzzz]

Originally Posted by V25V

Yeah.... we will have to agree to disagree on this. I have heard your argument before and cannot get there. Until these contracts become pay for performance (not just bonus targets), they have no incentive to work hard and/or behave like professionals. I have lost all interest in the NFL over the past 2 years, I cannot believe I am the only one.

I do see your position but I think NFL contracts on average do not favor the players. They always have the shortest terms, with the least money guaranteed compared to say MLB, which might I add has been losing popularity.

From the NFL's perspective other than fine him for wearing the watch they can't do much more. The team can do as they want but they wont do anything.

I personally prefer watching baseball over football but I am a declining statistic.

[V25V]

Originally Posted by Ballzzz

I do see your position but I think NFL contracts on average do not favor the players. They always have the shortest terms, with the least money guaranteed compared to say MLB, which might I add has been losing popularity.

From the NFL's perspective other than fine him for wearing the watch they can't do much more. The team can do as they want but they wont do anything.

I personally prefer watching baseball over football but I am a declining statistic.

I agree the NFL contracts are not as lucrative as MLB or NBA but those are even more out of control. Put them on pay for performance contracts (not just target bonuses) and if they do not like it, buh bye. These guys have zero to fall back on and if the owners/leagues can suck it up for a bit when the cash drought starts (they could if they wanted to), these guys will come back to them begging. Ticket prices will be lower, players will get paid a much more "reasonable" amount of money and everyone will be happy. These ~100M+ contracts (so f'n ridiculous) are a big part of why it is so damn expensive to just go see a game these days. The argument that the owners are making more just doesn't hold water for me, the boss should make more money. At the end of the day, they are all greedy. Owners, players and agents. Its an awful situation and has completely turned me off.

[RobearH]

^ I disagree. The NFL and sports in general are not Amazon. It’s not like the fans tune in and spends $ to watch the bosses sign paychecks. This a talent driven league and talent should get what the market can bear...sound familiar!

[V25V]

Originally Posted by RobearH

I disagree. The NFL is not Amazon. It’s not like the fans tune in to watch the bosses sign paychecks. This a talent driven league and talent should get what the market can bear...sound familiar!

The market can't bear it. The average family of 4 cannot afford to go to a football game. $200 tickets, $20 beers, etc.

I am all about free market but these contracts are utterly outrageous.

[RobearH]

Originally Posted by V25V

The market can't bear it. The average family of 4 cannot afford to go to a football game. $200 tickets, $20 beers, etc.

I am all about free market but these contracts are utterly outrageous.

Oh really is there one of those billionaire owners you mentioned franchise go bankrupt? How about just missing payroll for a month...I didn’t think so.

Those that can’t afford those ticket prices you mentioned watch on tv. Just like those who can’t afford a Rolex can still get the time.

[V25V]

Originally Posted by RobearH

Those that can’t afford those ticket prices you mentioned watch on tv. Just like those who can’t afford a Rolex can still get the time.

lol ok

[Ballzzz]

Originally Posted by V25V

The market can't bear it. The average family of 4 cannot afford to go to a football game. $200 tickets, $20 beers, etc.

I am all about free market but these contracts are utterly outrageous.

From the perspective of in game engagement I agree 100% BUT other than the top 10% of teams the bulk of revenue is generated from ad & viewership dollars - so hypothetically the market can bear it.

Listen do I think some of these guys make too much sure but they only get a check when the “adults” agree to the terms set forth in the contractual instrument.

I stand behind my original feeling, no team has to sign any player. They choose to do so based on there analysis of all aspects of that players profile including character. Some are in the Gruden camp - show up on Sunday and that’s what your worth everything else is noise.

[V25V]

Originally Posted by Ballzzz

From the perspective of in game engagement I agree 100% BUT other than the top 10% of teams the bulk of revenue is generated from ad & viewership dollars - so hypothetically the market can bear it.

Listen do I think some of these guys make too much sure but they only get a check when the “adults” agree to the terms set forth in the contractual instrument.

I stand behind my original feeling, no team has to sign any player. They choose to do so based on there analysis of all aspects of that players profile including character. Some are in the Gruden camp - show up on Sunday and that’s what your worth everything else is noise.

Like I said earlier, everyone has a hand in this thing getting out of control in terms of cost, TV contracts (networks) included. Everyone keeps raising pricing/costs and it just falls downward. Of course they do not have to sign them but they know if they bring in a OBJ or similar that this = "x" dollars of additional revenue. So they do not give a crap, that's part of the problem.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by emersm

. Browns fan here.

Yeah, the Browns just don’t have a winning franchise... the real pits. Now, take my LIONS for example of a winn- ... ... ...

Never mind.

[Ballzzz]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...cid=spartandhp

[Mr.Rolex1]

Originally Posted by mfer

should be illegal. Stupid imho.

+2

[Old Geezer]

Why, just why ?

[Wcdhtwn]

Originally Posted by Henry F.

I like the look. I don't see a problem nor the big hype here. Nadal wears RM every game.

There is a slight difference between the NFL and Men's Tennis.

It's a total poser move, all he's saying is "I'm so rich I can play with this $190K watch and don't care if it gets destroyed".

My biggest concern is this will launch a whole new series of "Is it safe" threads in here.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by Wcdhtwn

There is a slight difference between the NFL and Men's Tennis.

It's a total poser move, all he's saying is "I'm so rich I can play with this $190K watch and don't care if it gets destroyed".

My biggest concern is this will launch a whole new series of "Is it safe" threads in here.

That’s kind of what everyone who wears an expensive watch is doing on a day to day. Most members here are putting much more of their net worth at risk wearing a simple submariner than he is with that watch.

I’d bet anything RM is involved regardless of what they say.

[V25V]

Originally Posted by GB-man

That’s kind of what everyone who wears an expensive watch is doing on a day to day. Most members here are putting much more of their net worth at risk wearing a simple submariner than he is with that watch.



I’d bet anything RM is involved regardless of what they say.

Why would RM decline being involved? I don't think they are at all, nor do I think football is a market they would target. Opposed to auto racing, tennis, golf, etc. I guess you could be correct but I'm having a hard time understanding why RM wouldn't just have made him a "ambassador" or pay the man to wear their watch if breaking into that market is their goal.


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[msm2]

The fact we are all talking about this and it hit all main stream outside of the watch world is exactly what RM wanted. I bet RM watched the defiant ones on Netflix and figured he could recreate the beats by Dre marketing hype from 2014 and he did.

[V25V]

Originally Posted by msm2

The fact we are all talking about this and it hit all main stream outside of the watch world is exactly what RM wanted. I bet RM watched the defiant ones on Netflix and figured he could recreate the beats by Dre marketing hype from 2014 and he did.

Meh, I think it kinda came and passed with the mainstream. Some of those
I work with who know I'm into watches asked what it was he was wearing but none held RM in their minds. I think the only ones still talking about it are us watch freaks.

So I'll ask you; if RM was involved in this stunt, why wouldn't they just sponsor him or make him an ambassador? Or why not just admit they are using him to promote the brand, which they are not.

Unlike Rafael Nadal, who won the 2019 U.S. Open this past weekend wearing the Richard Mille RM 27-03 Tourbillon Rafael Nadal limited edition watch—it retails for $769,000—or golf player Bubba Watson, who also wears a Richard Mille watch while playing, Beckham is not an official brand partner.


“Richard Mille has had a genuine relationship with professional athletes for many years, and it only gets deeper. However, OBJ is not a brand partner and it is his decision to wear his watch on the field,” says Hughes.

https://www.complex.com/style/2019/0...-richard-mille


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[GB-man]

Originally Posted by V25V

Meh, I think it kinda came and passed with the mainstream. Some of those
I work with who know I'm into watches asked what it was he was wearing but none held RM in their minds. I think the only ones still talking about it are us watch freaks.

So I'll ask you; if RM was involved in this stunt, why wouldn't they just sponsor him or make him an ambassador? Or why not just admit they are using him to promote the brand, which they are not.



https://www.complex.com/style/2019/0...-richard-mille


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My opinion is it went something like this. Here is a free watch Odell. If you are able to wear it in games we will sponsor you for xxx per year. If not, enjoy your watch.

[Ballzzz]

Originally Posted by GB-man

My opinion is it went something like this. Here is a free watch Odell. If you are able to wear it in games we will sponsor you for xxx per year. If not, enjoy your watch.

Agreed 100%

P.S. V25V they won't stand behind him because of his character BUT they will ride his dog and pony show popularity.

[V25V]

Guys, you could be right. I dunno....

[RobearH]

How about he bought himself to match his team colors and custom orange Bentley. Wears it in practice to match him uniform.

Then says to himself “other athletes get these for free to race cars or play tennis or golf. Why don’t I do it on my own and maybe RM will reach out and do for me...if not I still look cool as the first NFL athlete to wear a $194K watch in a game.

Sound like the way a narcissist mind might work.