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27 October 2019, 10:29 PM | #31 |
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I love my Explorer for pretty much all occasions. Entry level? Classic, definitely.
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27 October 2019, 10:45 PM | #32 |
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Then he should have asked what is the cheapest Rolex he could buy, in that case maybe a very old DJ. I know people who's first Rolex was a Plat DD. I also know very very rich people who wear SS. There is no entry level.
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27 October 2019, 11:06 PM | #33 |
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Get a used datejust...and yes, it’s a great piece. I started with a Submariner, but the pricing is out of line at the moment.
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27 October 2019, 11:35 PM | #34 |
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Black/stainless Sub gets my vote
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28 October 2019, 12:18 AM | #35 |
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OP36 the new ones look nice have a flatter bezel
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28 October 2019, 12:25 AM | #36 |
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Surely people must realize that all luxury brands offer products to aspirational owners. All brands have tiers for different clientele. Remember the Ferrari California and C class Mercedes? This is absolutely the intention of the air king. Please don't take offense or be defensive if you have a Rolex that falls into this category.
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You have a few threads in this general arena. Maybe the question is why are you asking? As mentioned above the OP, Explorer I, etc. are fantastic watches at the lower end of the Rolex price range. Calling them “entry level” though is like calling a base 911 entry level. Sure, it’s not an S, Turbo, or GT3. But, uh, it’s a 911. And it’s awesome. So just enjoy your black OP until something else sings to you (louder). |
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I think it would be a 34mm oyster perpetual. Because I think that is one of the watches that costs the least amount of money. Is that a great first Rolex ? Of course. And I think it is also a great last Rolex. Why? Because a 34mm OP, has the same time keeping accuracy than a gold daydate or a stainless steel Daytona. Is is water resistant to 100m, just like a $30,000 daydate Also, it is a watch in its most purest form, no polished centered links in the bracelet or anything fancy. Made of stainless steel, and as durable as any other watch in the catalogue. Also, a 34mm OP is easily attainable... when I see a person wearing one, I assume they bought it because they like it and appreciate the minimalistic watch for what it is, just a watch. When I see someone wearing a “hot” or hard to get watch, eh..... I don’t get the same feeling. Some of them may buy because they like it, but A LOT of people buy them just because it’s hard to get and what everybody else wants, which is kinda lame IMO. Plus an OP goes well with casual attire and with formal attire (depending on the dial color). It doesn’t have to be 34mm, but I prefer that one because of the dials |
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28 October 2019, 01:26 AM | #40 |
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I think the correct term is gateway Rolex.
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28 October 2019, 01:31 AM | #41 |
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28 October 2019, 02:20 AM | #42 |
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Most people capable of reading between the lines probably understand that by "entry level", you meant lowest priced, i.e., the minimum amount of money required for entry into the brand.
Lowest priced option would be a 36mm Oyster Perpetual at $5400, unless you go down to a 34mm currently at $5050. Rolex charges a $1400 premium if you want a date wheel- a 36mm Datejust with domed steel bezel and Oyster bracelet is $6800, but you're also getting the newer 32xx series movement, which hasn't trickled down to the Oyster Perpetual yet. Of course, whether or not this new movement is truly an upgrade has been debated on some points, so it really comes down to preference. To their credit, everyone squawking about there being no "entry level" is right in terms of quality- the movement in my Datejust from last year with an MSRP of $6700 is the exact same movement as the one currently offered in the $36,850 White Gold Submariner- for that additional ~$30k, Rolex doesn't offer a longer power reserve, better movement finishing, better guaranteed accuracy, or a longer warranty....just some extra water resistance by virtue of it being a Sub, and maybe $7500 worth of gold. |
28 October 2019, 02:25 AM | #43 |
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The term entry level seems to get a lot of people up in a bunch but I do understand what you're asking.
The OP and Air King have always been considered entry points to the brand. And they're only entry level in the sense of pricing as we all know before I catch heat. So many here seem to take comments like this as personal insults towards their watches but the fact of the matter is real Rolex collectors own and appreciate all of these. The OP39 may be my favorite Rolex right now |
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A stainless steel sub. Most versatile watch made
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28 October 2019, 02:29 AM | #45 |
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I would actually say a used TT datejust. It’s a cost effective way to see how you feel about its wrist presence.
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28 October 2019, 02:31 AM | #46 |
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Maybe we shouldn't beat up OP and rather wait until he tells us what he means. It is very easy - trust me, I do it all the time - to view posts through our own set of biases.
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28 October 2019, 03:03 AM | #47 |
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Agree with what you said. Specially about real Rolex fans appreciating OPs and air kings as well. |
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28 October 2019, 03:24 AM | #50 |
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Technically Rolex doesn't make a "entry level" but I know what he is asking. For decades when AD's were normal and could sell you any watch you wanted in the case, they often referred to the Air King as the entry level model. I have heard this term at several AD's over 30 years. It is what it is. Every premium product has what dealers might classify as "entry level" into the brand. Its not insulting at all to the product.
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28 October 2019, 03:38 AM | #51 |
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28 October 2019, 04:32 AM | #52 |
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28 October 2019, 04:39 AM | #53 |
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Explorer or OP super cool in ANY collection. Some entry level.
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28 October 2019, 04:49 AM | #54 |
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One answer for entry level > OP39. I have a longtime friend who wants to buy his first and most likely one and only lifetime Rolex and wants a date. As far as a 'Great' choice goes I recommended the DJ41
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