Relative of AD Selling Hot Models on Gray Market

[GB-man]

Snitching is a pathetic way to conduct yourself. Walk in there and shake them down for a Daytona or Pepsi at msrp.

[Macnavara]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

Instagram also made my wife think having kids was gonna be easy and that everyone she knows basically has the perfect marriage, Lol. Just sayin. But I’m sure you’re right.

Haha....so true

[Macnavara]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Snitching is a pathetic way to conduct yourself. Walk in there and shake them down for a Daytona or Pepsi at msrp.

So I guess blackmail is an acceptable way to conduct yourself in this case then

[joli160]

Can't believe you are considering this. What business is it of yours. Who is committing a crime here ?

Nagging that you cannot buy a watch at MSRP. Why would any AD give you several thousands instant profit for doing exactly nothing ?
So many people nowadays feeling entitled without money to play

[WatchLurv]

Originally Posted by joli160

Can't believe you are considering this. What business is it of yours. Who is committing a crime here ?

Nagging that you cannot buy a watch at MSRP. Why would any AD give you several thousands instant profit for doing exactly nothing ?
So many people nowadays feeling entitled without money to play

Spot on.

Got some pseudo-Rolex-investigator trying to enforce their rules and making the AD's bread and butter vanish for his own "benefit", in which, in the end, won't benefit him at all. OP will still not get his SS watch he's been on the list for, for 2 years. "IF I CAN'T HAVE THIS SS, THEN NO ONE CAN!"

[steve099]

Life aint fair, get over it.

[garyk]

Originally Posted by Speed

Quid pro quo

Originally Posted by boredM

hahahahaha
Id have a hard time not doing the later myself

Hahaha.....

[Andad]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Snitching is a pathetic way to conduct yourself. Walk in there and shake them down for a Daytona or Pepsi at msrp.

You mean Daytona AND Pepsi.

I see no reason why Rolex should not be asked if they condone this ploy?

[DLRIDES]

Originally Posted by mcnealstash

Hi- recently stumbled across a situation where the child of a nearby AD (not a huge multi-location dealer, a locally owned family business) is selling multiple hot models on the gray market for gray prices. The watches are unworn with warranty cards filled out in the past 3-4 weeks- clearly they were purchased with the intent to flip. This is pretty infuriating as someone who is on the list for one of these models- it doesn't seem like good business practice that an AD family should be able to profit multiple times from the sale of these watches. It's one thing if they are selling to a family member and they are actually going to wear/use the watch for an extended period of time- this kind of thing is just slimy though.

Are there any ways I can report this sketchy business activity to Rolex corporate? I have heard of some AD's losing their Rolex dealer status due to repeated selling to known flippers.

Welcome to practically every AD !

Gray dealers do not manufacture Rolex watches, nor do they buy them factory direct .......................

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by mcnealstash

After looking at this individual's instagram... I can tell you they are doing just fine...

I’m not saying either way, but no one pleads poverty on Instagram

[watchmaker]

Are we still acting like we are surprised that some people do dishonest things?

Being a trf member is not an indication of moral superiority, plenty of people would do the exact same thing given half a chance.

As for telling Rolex about it? Grow up, it’s just a watch. Go fight some real injustice in the world if your conscience is telling you to fight the good fight.

[timepieceluvr]

I like to mind my own business....


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[Roger1079]

Originally Posted by BigBoy17

You sound like a snitch, sorry to hear. Its his store, his watches. This happens not just in the watch market but in practically every business field i can think of. Fyi i have a friend who is selling these really hot at the moment bidet toilets for over market price, do you want the manufactures info and his contact info so it can be reported?

His store, his watches, and his choice to break the rules. As with anything else, if you are willing to commit the "crime" you must also be willing to "do the time". "Personal responsibility" seems to be a term lost these days.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by mcnealstash

Social media is designed to dupe you into thinking something is really great, then once you get there you find out it isn't, right?

In this case though it's excessive displays of wealth- I doubt there are many instances when Rolex dealers have really hit hard times.

Cannot understand why they call it social media as most of it today is unsocial media.

[peterpl]

LOL - yep

Was reading an article today. Social media has become one of the biggest platforms to cause depression, anxiety and unhappiness due to everyone trying to outdo each other and flaunt or display fake lives and wealth.

Everyone on there seems to be living the high life in their posts and then goes home to a rented studio apartment, working minimum wage and paying interest on their loan so they could strap that Rollie on their wrist.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by watchmaker

Are we still acting like we are surprised that some people do dishonest things?

Being a trf member is not an indication of moral superiority, plenty of people would do the exact same thing given half a chance.

As for telling Rolex about it? Grow up, it’s just a watch. Go fight some real injustice in the world if your conscience is telling you to fight the good fight.

Have to agree and IMHO most posts like the original posters are just fantasy.

[Gray_Panther]

Snitches get stitches.

[Brew]

Snitches and rats suck.

[peterpl]

Everyone talking about snitches and rats - I know its not the same context but trust me everyone is a snitch if the consequences are high enough. Everyone!! Maybe not for a watch but if 10+ years of your life is on the line loyalty goes out the window.

Loyalty and people being a online gangster is one thing. When the REAL shit goes down everyone will collapse.

[1William]

I understand the OP and the frustration with trying to by through an AD at msrp. I also understand that there are market situations that are outside of my control. I just try to understand them and operate within the system to get the items I want. I have neither the time, energy or disposition to report an AD for this. But I would remember and when the market shifts and I can get items again at msrp or at a discount I doubt I would give them my business. Some members here remember when AD's were concerned about being reported for discounting. Interesting how things change.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by scombs263

I’ve been suspecting this for a while now......

Since Aug 2016 in UK... Rolex took a very dim view at the time as it was unprecedented and came down hard on ADs and the practice subsided for a while so bundling became the norm, but when it spreads globally Rolex can't keep track so it is up to each AD's own integrity as to how they conduct their business.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by watchmaker

Are we still acting like we are surprised that some people do dishonest things?

Being a trf member is not an indication of moral superiority, plenty of people would do the exact same thing given half a chance.

As for telling Rolex about it? Grow up, it’s just a watch. Go fight some real injustice in the world if your conscience is telling you to fight the good fight.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by padi56

Cannot understand why they call it social media as most of it today is unsocial media.

Recent poll had 46% of adults thinking that SM was overall a negative thing, surprising as I would have had it at over 50% already, the affect on kids is really the worst thing about it, I'd try to impose some limits on its usage for the under 16s.

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by Macnavara

So I guess blackmail is an acceptable way to conduct yourself in this case then

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by AK797

Recent poll had 46% of adults thinking that SM was overall a negative thing, surprising as I would have had it at over 50% already, the affect on kids is really the worst thing about it, I'd try to impose some limits on its usage for the under 16s.

Oh boy, don’t get me started my friend. Two young teenagers in the house and this is a constant battle for us

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by joli160

Can't believe you are considering this. What business is it of yours. Who is committing a crime here ?

Nagging that you cannot buy a watch at MSRP. Why would any AD give you several thousands instant profit for doing exactly nothing ?
So many people nowadays feeling entitled without money to play

Exactly

Originally Posted by watchmaker

Are we still acting like we are surprised that some people do dishonest things?

Being a trf member is not an indication of moral superiority, plenty of people would do the exact same thing given half a chance.

As for telling Rolex about it? Grow up, it’s just a watch. Go fight some real injustice in the world if your conscience is telling you to fight the good fight.

Completely agree

Originally Posted by padi56

Have to agree and IMHO most posts like the original posters are just fantasy.

Entitlement is a serious disease

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by mcnealstash

Are there any ways I can report this sketchy business activity to Rolex corporate? I have heard of some AD's losing their Rolex dealer status due to repeated selling to known flippers.

So I guess you do not want to buy a watch from them?

[Aplover5]

You’d think the AD could sell the hot models for whatever they want until they take the “S” out of “MSRP”.

[mountainjogger]

Originally Posted by mcnealstash

Ok, boomer.

Thanks for the life/business lesson though, buddy.

While I am not totally simpatico with BigBoy's reply...

And, and while I personally think it would be slimy for an AD to sell hot models to a family member to get higher prices (if that is what really happened, this is sheer speculation, amplified by repetition on a blog)...

Here is my tongue in cheek reply to the use of "Boomer" by other generations when they are triggered by something they do not agree with. (Note: humor is something which some people but not all acquire through life lessons).

1. I will happily wear the mantle of "boomer" if it means I am not part of the new tide of compulsive whiners to whom not being able to get the latest hot model of a luxury watch from an AD at MSRP (and maybe with a discount) is a crisis of epic proportions.

2. And I will also happily wear my SS Rolex which I got from my AD via my "boomer" relationship.

3. "Old age and treachery always overcomes youth and skill." (Attributed too many, but sung the best by Waylon and Willie).

[fsprow]

Don't want you to expose yourself to a lawsuit by the AD or party to them. Before contacting Rolex, make sure your "evidence" is hard and if you heard this from another individual, ensure they are willing to provide evidence themselves and stand up for its veracity, perhaps even in court.

Otherwise you may be considered liable for damages to the AD. We live in a litigious country.