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SS Oyster · 1 February 2020, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ArtNouveau

Guess I'm in the .001%. My three purchases from my AD have been BLNR, BLRO, and Daytona. Keep looking.

So what you are saying is that these are easy to get and you don’t know what everyone is talking about?

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ArtNouveau · 1 February 2020, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SS Oyster

So what you are saying is that these are easy to get and you don’t know what everyone is talking about?

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No, I’m saying you don’t have to be a whale to get a Daytona...and that all dealers don’t operate the same way. OP should keep putting his feelers out (in person, random phone calls are useless) and he just might find the dealer that will get him one.

Rado63 · 1 February 2020, 08:14 AM

If I could buy a Daytona today at MSRP, then after owning it for some time I decide to sell it and market price is greater than retail, I would be ecstatic. If I buy a Daytona today at market price, and then after owning it for some time I decide to sell it and market price is at or above what I paid for it then I would be ecstatic. I would just buy one today if that's something I really wanted in my life. If you're young you can wait. When you're older and the movies half over, then I need it now and I'm wearing it everyday until I get tired of it.

alphadweller · 1 February 2020, 08:24 AM

Sound decision, OP.

RyanJ · 1 February 2020, 08:34 AM

These watches are readily available. There is no supply problem. You may not be able to get any SS models at MSRP but many can. Alot then choose to flip.

Supply is readily available to anyone with the money to pay. If you choose not to pay over MSRP, that is fine and your decision.

Just because you (collective you) cannot buy at MSRP doesnt mean there is a suppy problem.

IndianRider · 1 February 2020, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanJ

These watches are readily available. There is no supply problem. You may not be able to get any SS models at MSRP but many can. Alot then choose to flip.

Supply is readily available to anyone with the money to pay.

I can get many SS at MSRP, but not the Daytona. The Daytona is not readily available. I have the money and am ready to pay... but there is no "readily available" supply of Daytonas at MSRP.

IndianRider · 1 February 2020, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanJ

Just because you (collective you) cannot buy at MSRP doesnt mean there is a suppy problem.

But there sure as hell is a demand problem. If you (the non-collective, singular you) can get an SS ceramic daytona at MSRP in a year I'll eat my hat.

RyanJ · 1 February 2020, 08:48 AM

Again, just because you cannot get models at MSRP does not mean there is a supply problem.

You can buy all these models shipped to your door in 24 hours. You will just have to pay over MSRP.

Most of the models at MSRP have been sold to customers, flippers, and some in the safe waiting for VIPs.

Yes, demand is pretty high for MSRP because many want to sell for profit. Unfortunately that hurts the regular collector who wants to buy to keep and wear.

IndianRider · 1 February 2020, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanJ

Again, just because you cannot get models at MSRP does not mean there is a supply problem.

You can buy all these models shipped to your door in 24 hours. You will just have to pay over MSRP.

Most of the models at MSRP have been sold to customers, flippers, and some in the safe waiting for VIPs.

Yes, demand is pretty high for MSRP because many want to sell for profit. Unfortunately that hurts the regular collector who wants to buy to keep and wear.

... have you been reading this thread? I never said there’s a supply problem. My whole point of posting was to say that it’s impossible to get an SS Daytona at MSRP and I’m not paying the ridiculous grey prices. I don’t see the point of your posts. Thanks for contributing though and have a good rest of your afternoon.

PepsiBezel · 1 February 2020, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanJ

Again, just because you cannot get models at MSRP does not mean there is a supply problem.

You can buy all these models shipped to your door in 24 hours. You will just have to pay over MSRP.

Most of the models at MSRP have been sold to customers, flippers, and some in the safe waiting for VIPs.

Yes, demand is pretty high for MSRP because many want to sell for profit. Unfortunately that hurts the regular collector who wants to buy to keep and wear.

Yes. In the current world, MSRP is better described as a discount on fair market value. Not everyone gets the discount, but anyone could get the watch if they are truly willing.

franktehtank · 1 February 2020, 09:49 AM

No watch is worth stressing over. Also, no watch is worth waiting years and years for. Life's too short to deal with these silly games.

IndianRider · 1 February 2020, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by franktehtank

No watch is worth stressing over. Also, no watch is worth waiting years and years for. Life's too short to deal with these silly games.

My plan isn't waiting years and years for a watch. My plan is to spend years and years enjoying discussing Rolex watches on TRF. Every once in a while, my AD will make a piece available for me to purchase so I'll have more to talk about on TRF.

I'm a watch and horology fan, mate. I enjoy obsessing over watches and the process of collecting them

franktehtank · 1 February 2020, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by IndianRider

My plan isn't waiting years and years for a watch. My plan is to spend years and years enjoying discussing Rolex watches on TRF. Every once in a while, my AD will make a piece available for me to purchase so I'll have more to talk about on TRF.

I'm a watch and horology fan, mate. I enjoy obsessing over watches and the process of collecting them

My reply wasn't combative, I was agreeing with you!

RyanJ · 1 February 2020, 08:57 AM

You're welcome.

IndianRider · 1 February 2020, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanJ

You're welcome.

Maxy · 1 February 2020, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanJ

You're welcome.

I understand the feeling... 1 person less and your are 1 person closer to Daytona!

bonovox · 1 February 2020, 09:39 AM

I recently read a post that called the Patek 5167/A a social media watch - believe it or not, they used to linger in cases, and sell below retail aftermarket not so long ago.

In many ways, the Daytona is also a social media watch. It's never been readily available at AD's to the masses with no purchase history. Instagram and other sites have created demand that is unprecedented. How many people out there want one just because they can't have it all because social media is directing their tastes and thinking? I'd argue many would not like it, or just flip it when the "hunt" ends.

It's easy to blame Rolex or your AD, but they are holding steady and the hysteria directing everyone to want a Daytona C is a moment in time. Rolex, as well as your AD, isn't in this for the short game. My $.02.

IndianRider · 1 February 2020, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bonovox

I recently read a post that called the Patek 5167/A a social media watch - believe it or not, they used to linger in cases, and sell below retail aftermarket not so long ago.

In many ways, the Daytona is also a social media watch. It's never been readily available at AD's to the masses with no purchase history. Instagram and other sites have created demand that is unprecedented. How many people out there want one just because they can't have it all because social media is directing their tastes and thinking? I'd argue many would not like it, or just flip it when the "hunt" ends.

It's easy to blame Rolex or your AD, but they are holding steady and the hysteria directing everyone to want a Daytona C is a moment in time. Rolex, as well as your AD, isn't in this for the short game. My $.02.

I'm not blaming Rolex or my AD(s). It's the demand.

garyk · 1 February 2020, 09:04 AM

Recently acquired a TT Tudor Chrono on Bund strap for my petite wife who loves big watches. I am actually considering a TT Tudor Chrono on TT bracelet. Have you looked at these. Seriously awesome watches!

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IndianRider · 1 February 2020, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by garyk

Recently acquired a TT Tudor Chrono on Bund strap for my petite wife who loves big watches. I am actually considering a TT Tudor Chrono on TT bracelet. Have you looked at these. Seriously awesome watches!

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That is a handsome watch. I haven't really gotten into Tudor but I'm starting to consider it more.

Rolexlover123 · 1 February 2020, 09:35 AM

Just wait for the next recession, there will be excess inventory then.

boogiebot · 1 February 2020, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by IndianRider

I have given up on getting a ceramic daytona at MSRP. Waitlists are meaningless. These pieces only go to those with substantial purchase histories 99.999% of the time. This is my grail Rolex but I refuse to pay over MSRP or spend $50-100 thousand so that I can get preferred treatment.

I feel ya my friend. Right now I’m in a very similar boat. Working on a new incoming myself. Won’t be a Rolex due to this market. In a way though I’m kind of glad that I was pushed to spend my money elsewhere as I’m seeing a lot more cool pieces that I otherwise would have over looked.

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IndianRider · 1 February 2020, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by boogiebot

I feel ya my friend. Right now I’m in a very similar boat. Working on a new incoming myself. Won’t be a Rolex due to this market. In a way though I’m kind of glad that I was pushed to spend my money elsewhere as I’m seeing a lot more cool pieces that I otherwise would have over looked.

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Misery loves company

But congrats on the pending incoming. Same here... I'm seriously considering a Blancpain Fifty Fathoms Nageurs de Combat.

broham84 · 1 February 2020, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by IndianRider

I have given up on getting a ceramic daytona at MSRP. Waitlists are meaningless. These pieces only go to those with substantial purchase histories 99.999% of the time. This is my grail Rolex but I refuse to pay over MSRP or spend $50-100 thousand so that I can get preferred treatment.

So what's your point?

Plenty of people have gotten Daytonas without spending a ton, perhaps you aren't doing it the right way.

IndianRider · 1 February 2020, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by broham84

So what's your point?

Plenty of people have gotten Daytonas without spending a ton, perhaps you aren't doing it the right way.

... really ... ?

broham84 · 1 February 2020, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by IndianRider

... really ... ?

Yes.

IndianRider · 1 February 2020, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by broham84

Yes.

I'm curious, what's the right way? I'm dying to know so I can be one of the plenty of people who are getting the SS Daytona C at MSRP.

And you're right, I'm getting tired of all the Daytona C incomings on this forum. So common.

THC · 1 February 2020, 10:43 AM

I am a big fan of two tone... this Daytona to me is the best deal going.. new unworn..

https://davidsw.com/watches/rolex-wa...-white-dial-4/

IndianRider · 1 February 2020, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by THC

I am a big fan of two tone... this Daytona to me is the best deal going.. new unworn..

https://davidsw.com/watches/rolex-wa...-white-dial-4/

It's nice. I'm not a two tone fan, though, and it's only $400 under MSRP so I'd pass.

peterpl · 1 February 2020, 10:44 AM

There is NO supply problem. Repeat NO supply problem.

The problem is Rolex lost total control of their distribution and their ADs are selling directly to the gray market so they can rip you off as the end customer and charge you an additional $10k. LOL

THAT is the current issue. Like other posters have said you can get ANY watch you want delivered to your door within 24hrs if you can pay the premium.

Its that simple.

1 February 2020, 08:14 AM	#3
Rado63 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Alan Location: Northern, CA Watch: 116334 Posts: 2,215	If I could buy a Daytona today at MSRP, then after owning it for some time I decide to sell it and market price is greater than retail, I would be ecstatic. If I buy a Daytona today at market price, and then after owning it for some time I decide to sell it and market price is at or above what I paid for it then I would be ecstatic. I would just buy one today if that's something I really wanted in my life. If you're young you can wait. When you're older and the movies half over, then I need it now and I'm wearing it everyday until I get tired of it. __________________ Rolex 116334 126600 228235

1 February 2020, 09:04 AM	#19
garyk 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Gary Location: USA Watch: Daytona Posts: 11,749	Recently acquired a TT Tudor Chrono on Bund strap for my petite wife who loves big watches. I am actually considering a TT Tudor Chrono on TT bracelet. Have you looked at these. Seriously awesome watches! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________

1 February 2020, 08:24 AM	#4
alphadweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: Vic Location: Spain Watch: SD43 Posts: 6,198	Sound decision, OP.

1 February 2020, 08:34 AM	#5
RyanJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Atlantis Posts: 1,448	These watches are readily available. There is no supply problem. You may not be able to get any SS models at MSRP but many can. Alot then choose to flip. Supply is readily available to anyone with the money to pay. If you choose not to pay over MSRP, that is fine and your decision. Just because you (collective you) cannot buy at MSRP doesnt mean there is a suppy problem.

1 February 2020, 08:48 AM	#8
RyanJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Atlantis Posts: 1,448	Again, just because you cannot get models at MSRP does not mean there is a supply problem. You can buy all these models shipped to your door in 24 hours. You will just have to pay over MSRP. Most of the models at MSRP have been sold to customers, flippers, and some in the safe waiting for VIPs. Yes, demand is pretty high for MSRP because many want to sell for profit. Unfortunately that hurts the regular collector who wants to buy to keep and wear.

1 February 2020, 09:49 AM	#11
franktehtank "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Canada Watch: Sub, GMT Posts: 712	No watch is worth stressing over. Also, no watch is worth waiting years and years for. Life's too short to deal with these silly games.

1 February 2020, 08:57 AM	#14
RyanJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Atlantis Posts: 1,448	You're welcome.

1 February 2020, 09:39 AM	#17
bonovox 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Colorado Watch: your time Posts: 1,447	I recently read a post that called the Patek 5167/A a social media watch - believe it or not, they used to linger in cases, and sell below retail aftermarket not so long ago. In many ways, the Daytona is also a social media watch. It's never been readily available at AD's to the masses with no purchase history. Instagram and other sites have created demand that is unprecedented. How many people out there want one just because they can't have it all because social media is directing their tastes and thinking? I'd argue many would not like it, or just flip it when the "hunt" ends. It's easy to blame Rolex or your AD, but they are holding steady and the hysteria directing everyone to want a Daytona C is a moment in time. Rolex, as well as your AD, isn't in this for the short game. My $.02.

1 February 2020, 09:35 AM	#21
Rolexlover123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: USA Posts: 161	Just wait for the next recession, there will be excess inventory then.

1 February 2020, 10:43 AM	#28
THC 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Tom Location: Mandeville La Watch: 126333 Posts: 10,666	I am a big fan of two tone... this Daytona to me is the best deal going.. new unworn.. https://davidsw.com/watches/rolex-wa...-white-dial-4/

1 February 2020, 10:44 AM	#30
peterpl Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: . Posts: 6,692	There is NO supply problem. Repeat NO supply problem. The problem is Rolex lost total control of their distribution and their ADs are selling directly to the gray market so they can rip you off as the end customer and charge you an additional $10k. LOL THAT is the current issue. Like other posters have said you can get ANY watch you want delivered to your door within 24hrs if you can pay the premium. Its that simple.

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