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Old 6 February 2020, 11:09 PM   #31
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Dear OP,

Well...

I have to say that I still feel very cool about my Daytona.

It has a movement that is pretty good and very adequate to the functions it performs, has a great 70 hour power reserve and it’s been working flawlessly for the past 7 years.

Furthermore it’s a beautiful watch and it makes me feel happy whenever I look at it.

I believe you are entitled to feel as happy with your watch as I am with mine and far from me to argue about the heritage of the Seagull movement, but...

With this said please don’t try to make me or other Daytona owners feel bad about our watches or the movements therein, it is inelegant and totally unnecessary.

I also own an Explorer and a GMT and a Sub and a DJ and a few others, all have their own special charm and none would be capable of substituting the place that the Daytona has in my collection and in my heart.

I do hope that you started this thread just for the fun of it and that you are not taking yourself that seriously.

End of my rant.

All the best and keep on enjoying all your watches, that is the way to go.




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Sure! Love my Rolex. I'm glad Daytona lovers love theirs too!

I didn't say they weren't awesome... just that I don't get the euphoria about them vs other models right now that's all...

Enjoy!
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Old 6 February 2020, 11:10 PM   #32
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It's easy enough to look up. Watchfinder have an interesting and informative video on how the Daytona came about, what was happening in general in horology at the time, who was involved and how the model has been developed since.

The Daytona is one of the Rolex models I am least interested in as a potential owner. But I'm well read up on it. As I am on the History of Rolex. It's easy to get this stuff from credible sources and practically all of it is in the public domain.
Great stuff. Agree!
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Old 6 February 2020, 11:13 PM   #33
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Is the purpose of this post to incite and elicit a fiery response ?

So Rolex didn’t have in-house chronograph movement so what? Hype or no hype .... educated or not educated. The market determined there is tremendous monetary value in the Daytona regardless of movement.

Perhaps one day you will afford a Daytona


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I can't get past the double negative. Negates the entire thread...disqualified.
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Old 6 February 2020, 11:16 PM   #35
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Is the purpose of this post to incite and elicit a fiery response ?

So Rolex didn’t have in-house chronograph movement so what? Hype or no hype .... educated or not educated. The market determined there is tremendous monetary value in the Daytona regardless of movement.

Perhaps one day you will afford a Daytona


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No just stating facts about the history of the comparable movements that's all..
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Old 6 February 2020, 11:17 PM   #36
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I can't get past the double negative. Negates the entire thread...disqualified.
I didn't know I had to be a linguist or grammatically correct to be Rolex lover..

Oh well..

Maybe I'm wrong on that?
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Old 6 February 2020, 11:17 PM   #37
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So...let's see some pics of your magical watch.
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Old 6 February 2020, 11:18 PM   #38
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Sure! Love my Rolex. I'm glad Daytona lovers love theirs too!

I didn't say they weren't awesome... just that I don't get the euphoria about them vs other models right now that's all...

Enjoy!


Understood, but probably you are thinking about people who have, or want to have, a Daytona just because it’s trendy and difficult to obtain. I believe you won’t find many of those here in the forum.

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Old 6 February 2020, 11:19 PM   #39
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Understood, but probably you are thinking about people who have, or want to have, a Daytona just because it’s trendy and difficult to obtain. I believe you won’t find many of those here in the forum.

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Sure.

Thanks!
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Old 6 February 2020, 11:21 PM   #40
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So...let's see some pics of your magical watch.
Plenty of pictures via Google

You can buy them direct from the factory via Alibaba...been making them for pretty much as long as Rolex has been making Daytonas (as far as I am aware...)

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Old 6 February 2020, 11:22 PM   #41
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Understood, but probably you are thinking about people who have, or want to have, a Daytona just because it’s trendy and difficult to obtain. I believe you won’t find many of those here in the forum.

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Old 6 February 2020, 11:23 PM   #42
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Not sure I'd make that bet.
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No. I wouldn't either... :)
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Old 6 February 2020, 11:26 PM   #43
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Not sure I'd make that bet.

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Hmmm... Yes, maybe you got a point there, Dan. I haven’t been very active lately and we do have a lot of members...




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Old 6 February 2020, 11:28 PM   #44
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No. I wouldn't either... :)


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Old 6 February 2020, 11:33 PM   #45
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Wheres the traditional pics. I want to see a seagull.

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Old 6 February 2020, 11:43 PM   #46
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well i am still trying to figure out if people could or couldn't care less.
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Old 6 February 2020, 11:48 PM   #47
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All I can say is that I would LOVE to buy a Daytona, and I would hate to have a chinese piece of.....in my wrist
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Old 7 February 2020, 12:05 AM   #48
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OP: if you feel a stronger connection to your Seagull, it’s perfectly fine. Friendly reminder, this is a Rolex forum, members here are enthusiasts of the brand. The Daytona is kind of a popular model, has been since the mid 90s.

Padi most definitely cleared things up. Thank you, sir.

Pics of your Seagull?
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Old 7 February 2020, 12:12 AM   #49
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The recent Horology House fiasco just brings to light this insane insatiable price squeeze for Rolex just because "it's a Rolex..."

Talk about get sucked into the marketing!

And getting caught out on one of the most expensive Rolex - the Daytona...well what do people really know about Rolex and their chronograph movement?

One could argue my Venus 175 based Seagull I purchased brand new for $150 bucks has just as much heritage as a 30K Daytona..

And I can see the movement work! (It has a sapphire case back).

Yeh I know there will be Daytona smugs that will laugh at my Seagull...thinking the Chinese "stole" the movement, but do they know that V actually sold them the movement (they couldn't make a buck out of it during the Quartz crisis)..so Val went on to build and spruik the cheaper and lesser quality Val 7735 ...based on the Venus 188 (which was a lesser quality chono than the 175)...which then became ETA and on it goes..

So feeling cool about your Rolex chronographs?...

You did know it was Rolex who initially got their chrono movements from other manufacturers to begin with as well right?... the Gallet based Venus 140's etc way back in the late 20's..then there was the Zenith based movements etc etc...

So just how "original" is the Daytona?..and what makes you all think it's any better or got any more horological significance than my $150 buck Seagull?!

Comments welcome!

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I understand what you’re saying and I thank you sharing that with us

Basically I understand that some people think they’re super cool because they have a Daytona, and these same may look down on other watches because they aren’t Rolex watches

But little do they know that Rolex used “smaller” brands to create the Daytona, which is probably Rolex’s most in demand watch



You’re just writing facts

Do remember though, that currently a Daytona or a Nautilus is a HUGE status symbol

Not everyone is in it for the watch

Some people are in it for the status associated with their pieces
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Old 7 February 2020, 12:17 AM   #51
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The recent Horology House fiasco just brings to light this insane insatiable price squeeze for Rolex just because "it's a Rolex..."

Talk about get sucked into the marketing!

And getting caught out on one of the most expensive Rolex - the Daytona...well what do people really know about Rolex and their chronograph movement?

One could argue my Venus 175 based Seagull I purchased brand new for $150 bucks has just as much heritage as a 30K Daytona..

And I can see the movement work! (It has a sapphire case back).

Yeh I know there will be Daytona smugs that will laugh at my Seagull...thinking the Chinese "stole" the movement, but do they know that V actually sold them the movement (they couldn't make a buck out of it during the Quartz crisis)..so Val went on to build and spruik the cheaper and lesser quality Val 7735 ...based on the Venus 188 (which was a lesser quality chono than the 175)...which then became ETA and on it goes..

So feeling cool about your Rolex chronographs?...

You did know it was Rolex who initially got their chrono movements from other manufacturers to begin with as well right?... the Gallet based Venus 140's etc way back in the late 20's..then there was the Zenith based movements etc etc...

So just how "original" is the Daytona?..and what makes you all think it's any better or got any more horological significance than my $150 buck Seagull?!

Comments welcome!

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Couldn’t agree more. The Daytona is famous for its affiliation with celebrity. It broke no new ground, functionally is severely hampered by legibility and those screw down pushers, yet enjoys massive, lavish, and underserved praise. It’s far behind the speedy, Navitimer, el primero, the Monaco, and seiko chrono in terms of actual significance.

Now, that said from a distance it’s incredibly balanced, the water tight factor was also a benefit for me when I had mine, and it was versatile as any I have owned. But the functionality, telling time easily, using the chrono as intended, are real functional problems in the watch. The praise and hype of the watch far outstrips it’s actual ability to deliver as a functional watch. It functions more as jewelry now.
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It’s cool you like your watch. Other brands that are super hyped didn’t have in-house movements also (AP Jumbo, Patek 5070, etc.)

You don’t like the Daytona and that’s ok. Different strokes for different folks.
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Just more hate ‘trolling’ to get everyone wound up - and another Daytona ‘hater’.

No thanks.

Sadly I’ll never get the 3 minutes back of my life I spent reading this.


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Is the purpose of this post to incite and elicit a fiery response ?

So Rolex didn’t have in-house chronograph movement so what? Hype or no hype .... educated or not educated. The market determined there is tremendous monetary value in the Daytona regardless of movement.

Perhaps one day you will afford a Daytona


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Wheres the traditional pics. I want to see a seagull.

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Let’s say we all magically woke up tomorrow, and found out Rolex has change daytona prices. The daytona is now the entry level (cheapest) rolex, with no inventory issues. Plenty of stock in all ADs. You want one in a specific color/material,etc, the most you have to wait is 1-2weeks for it to come in.

I wonder how many “daytona lovers” would still love it.


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I wonder if you took a 40 year old Seagull, never worn and brought it to Antiques Roadshow, would it too be worth $700K?
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People don't know nothing about Rolex...

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It’s cool you like your watch. Other brands that are super hyped didn’t have in-house movements also (AP Jumbo, Patek 5070, etc.)



You don’t like the Daytona and that’s ok. Different strokes for different folks.


EXACTLY!!!

I LOVE the Jaeger 920 movement in the 5402 — and the Lemania 2310 — where do I even start — likely one of the finest chronograph movements ever made. Two of my favorite pieces.

This could be one of the most short-sighted threads I’ve ever read. Complete dis-understanding of the world of watches.

Haters will hate. Too bad this is where we are in terms of content.


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