Just got the call...

[EndlessEight]

The balls. Hopefully he runs down his list and no one bites.

F*ck that guy.

[Billfish]

That sucks

[dukie748]

Verging on extortion, classy way to do business.

At some point Rolex must realize how much their brand as a whole is being tarnished by these ridiculous games - whether they care or not is an entirely different matter.

[Bigsoftee]

Originally Posted by Speedsleev

I passed.

Good for you, I would have done exactly the same!

[EEpro]

Like a boss.

[DonRickles]

So, there's a Sub Date just sitting there?

[Dr.Stu]

Originally Posted by Speedsleev

AD called.

He let me know that the Sub Date I've been waiting for has come in. If I wanted to let him know which Roberto Coin gold jewelry I would be purchasing for my wife, he would "allow" me to purchase the sub...

I get the game but the delivery and how abrasive he was is just a compete turn off and wrecks the fun.

Classy.

Bravo! If this was after waiting on a wait list/significant wait (especially), but even if not, I would now go by in person and speak with the Owner/Store Mgr/Brand Mgr (whomever is this guy's boss) & let them know that they have now lost all of my future watch AND jewelry business -as you bundle your business, too.

[Saint-Tropez]

Originally Posted by Speedsleev

AD called.

He let me know that the Sub Date I've been waiting for has come in. If I wanted to let him know which Roberto Coin gold jewelry I would be purchasing for my wife, he would "allow" me to purchase the sub...

I get the game but the delivery and how abrasive he was is just a compete turn off and wrecks the fun.

Classy.

Submariners are a dime a dozen. You will certainly get another soon if you do your part. I'm glad to hear that you passed on it. The majority of these game playing sales folks aren't even able to afford an inexpensive Rolex model themselves anyhow and act like they are doing you a favor. Classless behavior should never be validated. If you want something from someone, then they can control you. Again, good man for walking.

[Locust]

Rolex needs to take control of their product the way AP did. This is all getting out of hand.

[scombs263]

Lame!

[037]

Originally Posted by Locust

Rolex needs to take control of their product the way AP did. This is all getting out of hand.

It would be rather interesting to hear RUSA's take on what transpired here.

[JasTPE]

Originally Posted by Speedsleev

AD called.



He let me know that the Sub Date I've been waiting for has come in. If I wanted to let him know which Roberto Coin gold jewelry I would be purchasing for my wife, he would "allow" me to purchase the sub...



I get the game but the delivery and how abrasive he was is just a compete turn off and wrecks the fun.



Classy.

In Vancouver by any chance?

JasTPE

[ZeKe]

Not cool, especially if you are a returning customer.

[Speedsleev]

Originally Posted by 037

Unprofessional on the AD's part.

Who made this proposition? Was it a sales associate or the owner?

Sales guy saying he was told by the owner...double bad..

[Speedsleev]

Originally Posted by Notsoprobro

Trying to extort you for more money after making you wait on a list?

Was there any mention of this prior to you being put on the list? Regardless, I would've been shocked at the audacity.

I was absolutely shocked, there was no mention of that when I ordered the watch. this isn't my first rodeo. I passed out of straight principal.

[Speedsleev]

Originally Posted by TNT009

Congrats

Coingrats on passing?

[Speedsleev]

Originally Posted by dchernikoff

Good for you! Kinda makes you feel dirty they way they extort you like that, doesn't it?

-Dan

So filthy and completely took all the fun out of it. In my opinion, the AD's encourage flipping with actions like this. Think about it. Especially if your wife doesn't need or want anything new.

[Speedsleev]

Originally Posted by Danny83

Buy a cheap $500 piece

Its principle. Buying anything along with a Sub date puts you at grey market new price without any of the stupid games. Call up David and Miami and have it the next morning without having to go in and kiss the ring. Ridiculously in my opinion.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Speedsleev

I was absolutely shocked, there was no mention of that when I ordered the watch. this isn't my first rodeo. I passed out of straight principal.

That’s poor for, on the AD’s part for sure.

If you’re really jonesing for one, I’d go gray. The mark up isn’t all that bad IMO. Good luck

[Speedsleev]

Originally Posted by Jabbo84

You hit the jackpot. How much are you spending on the better half?

The jackpot? Your are joking correct?
For a Submariner?
Hardly the jackpot although a great watch.
I have the none date version so...he can call the next person on the list and do the dance.

[Speedsleev]

Originally Posted by 214270Explorer

Hope you also left him with a few well-placed and well-deserved four letter descriptors.

I simply said, you are actually serious and this is sad, take care my friend...

[Speedsleev]

Originally Posted by peter_shore

congrats

On passing, thanks!

[Speedsleev]

I've done it in the past but, this experience makes me want to leave the brand for good. Shame they are great watches (at retail) and work well.

[Sublovin]

Originally Posted by Speedsleev

I passed.

Good move! These AD’s are losing steam. There are fewer and fewer people everyday who are so eager to get an Instagram trophy that they are willing to buy other junk or pay a premium. It’s a Sub....they have been making them for several decades, and hundreds of thousands of them exist. Just be patient, the whole thing is correcting and returning to normal.

[RHIII]

When things normalize a bit - I’m very curious how many ADs will have lost very good customers. I suspect quite a few. Not good business. I mean come on Roberto Coin goes from $500 earrings to $5k plus pieces...is it worth, perhaps that little and the potential loss of a customer. No.

This is about principle. Good for you to pass. Regardless of whether they realize the principle of it or not.

I think Subs and GMTs etc will becomes more readily available this year. A couple may become more elusive - Daytonas and maybe SkyDwellers - but hey - that was the usual case anyway - regardless whether or not people want to truly accept it. And that’s ok.




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[Token74]

Originally Posted by RHIII

When things normalize a bit - I’m very curious how many ADs will have lost very good customers. I suspect quite a few. Not good business. I mean come on Roberto Coin goes from $500 earrings to $5k plus pieces...is it worth, perhaps that little and the potential loss of a customer. No.

This is about principle. Good for you to pass. Regardless of whether they realize the principle of it or not.

I think Subs and GMTs etc will becomes more readily available this year. A couple may become more elusive - Daytonas and maybe SkyDwellers - but hey - that was the usual case anyway - regardless whether or not people want to truly accept it. And that’s ok.




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The majority of AD’s won’t lose too many ‘good customers’ I wouldn’t think. There will of course be exceptions, but most AD’s will have prioritised their ‘good customers’, mine certainly has.

Many people missing out or being asked to bundle now, will have previously bought from Greys when it was cheaper to do so...and that’s where they’ll go again when the bubble bursts (assuming it will).




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[SDR581]

Good for you on passing on principal. By the time you add jewelry and sales tax you're better off going grey!

Those are the types of ADs that Rolex need to drop. My SA/AD will never make me buy anything I'm unsure or didn't want.

[horologymania]

Congrats!

[RHIII]

Originally Posted by Token74

The majority of AD’s won’t lose too many ‘good customers’ I wouldn’t think. There will of course be exceptions, but most AD’s will have prioritised their ‘good customers’, mine certainly has.

Many people missing out or being asked to bundle now, will have previously bought from Greys when it was cheaper to do so...and that’s where they’ll go again when the bubble bursts (assuming it will).




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True. Maybe I should have framed it as more along the lines of customers (growth) overall. Meaning this tactic is very short sighted.

Agree. The ‘good customers’ or VIPs (I hate that associated term) are already programmed in.


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[ALF61]

For a sub date ' Ha !!!