Is that a No Date 114060 on Chris Pine’s wrist?

[padi56]

Guys cool it or some will have the membership withdrawn this is the final warning.

[Tomas Eriksson]

[Tomas Eriksson]

[Tools]

Stop bickering kids.

Everybody should know that I, too, am a decades long Sub owner.

To be correct, there are really only two... The Submariner, and the Submariner Date

Just because sellers need to describe what you are looking at, for the less than enlightened, does not change that fact. There are polite ways to discuss this, aren't there?


None of this should be confused with the GMT no Date, which does have a date.

[dnpina]

Best part of this thread is Gal Gadot. Happy Friday.

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[HORNBLOWER]

Looks like Chris has a Couple of Subs. One in the picture where he is wearing the Star Trek hat looks like an early Sub with bracelet stretch, the other looks like a modern Sub.

[BumbleB]

Originally Posted by Easy E

Technically you're not wrong, but the damnest thing......from 4 very prominent secondary sellers on this forum - David SW, Nashville Watch, AIS Watches, SD Watches....

Thanks, I actually hadn’t seen this from resellers.

My local AD who sold me my SUBMARINER 114060LN asked me if I was interested in a Sub No Date when I dropped by to pick up something else.

So for me from then on it was a No Date, because that’s what the official Rolex AD calls it.

Now that I’ve learned it doesn’t exist, I guess I need to edit my signature






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[AJMarcus]

Could be a movie set prop. Just like Bosch

[AJMarcus]

Originally Posted by Tools

Stop bickering kids.

Everybody should know that I, too, am a decades long Sub owner.

To be correct, there are really only two... The Submariner, and the Submariner Date

Just because sellers need to describe what you are looking at, for the less than enlightened, does not change that fact. There are polite ways to discuss this, aren't there?


None of this should be confused with the GMT no Date, which does have a date.

Well said. Thank you

[Tools]

Originally Posted by BumbleB

So for me from then on it was a No Date, because that’s what the official Rolex AD calls it.

Now that I’ve learned it doesn’t exist, I guess I need to edit my signature

The ignorance of AD sales staff is a whole different topic.

[904VT]

Originally Posted by ink3027

I think it's either a 14060M or 14060. It appears to be a two-liner, and also the lugs look thinner.

I agree i think it's a 5 digit because of the end-links and lugs. No date nickname has been around forever and is fitting. While Submariner gets confusing because both date and non-date versions are technically Submariners. If we must it's actually the Rolex Oyster Perpetual Submariner and Rolex Oyster Perpetual Submariner Date. Very common and has been for years to all simply be referred to as a Submariner regardless because they are all the same Submariner family of watches. Just like they're all Oyster Perpetuals as well. Regardless, I prefer your way to reference in 114060 or 14060/m. Good observation on the 5 digit

[Dr. Robert]

I enjoyed Pine’s performance in “Bottle Shock”

[RHIII]

Originally Posted by BumbleB

Thanks, I actually hadn’t seen this from resellers.

My local AD who sold me my SUBMARINER 114060LN asked me if I was interested in a Sub No Date when I dropped by to pick up something else.

So for me from then on it was a No Date, because that’s what the official Rolex AD calls it.

Now that I’ve learned it doesn’t exist, I guess I need to edit my signature






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Are those PCLs? Always wondered what PCLs would look like on a stainless Sub.


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[BumbleB]

Originally Posted by RHIII

Are those PCLs? Always wondered what PCLs would look like on a stainless Sub.


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Sharp eye!

Yes, I swapped them with my GMT II 116710 bracelet






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[GONZO2LR]

What is wrong with this topic that we get threaten to be banded for here?
I like watching movies with Chris Pine and he is wearing my Rolex.
We are just like all of you and we are having fun, then to get threaten by one of you moderators. Is it because the topic does not interest you? Are you going to band the other moderator for commenting?
i just never have liked being threaten by anyone that thinks they have the power.
Sorry...but you are wrong.

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by Dr. Robert

I enjoyed Pine’s performance in “Bottle Shock”

I always get bottle shock when I order wine in a restaurant and pine for the price at the store.

[jb335]

Originally Posted by excelerater

Most peeps do not know who Chris's father is,the sarge from Chips TV show
Must be nice to have a parent in hollywood to pave the way

No way! I did not know that. I grew up on CHiPs!

[iTreelex]

TRF is where I go if I want that toxic kind of entertainment. Looks like a 116610 but modified to be a 114060 NO DATE SUBMARINER MINUS DATE NO CYCLOPS

[RHIII]

Originally Posted by BumbleB

Sharp eye!

Yes, I swapped them with my GMT II 116710 bracelet






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I thought so!!

I think it looks sharp — I’ve always considered polishing a bracelet over the years....


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[Bozack90]

Originally Posted by ink3027

I think it's either a 14060M or 14060. It appears to be a two-liner, and also the lugs look thinner.

this ...always regret not getting one when I had the chance.

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by BumbleB

Thanks, I actually hadn’t seen this from resellers.

My local AD who sold me my SUBMARINER 114060LN asked me if I was interested in a Sub No Date when I dropped by to pick up something else.

So for me from then on it was a No Date, because that’s what the official Rolex AD calls it.

Now that I’ve learned it doesn’t exist, I guess I need to edit my signature






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Some seem to hate pcls but I love them. I would definitely wear a Submariner like this as standard. Looks awesome.

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by GONZO2LR

What is wrong with this topic that we get threaten to be banded for here?
I like watching movies with Chris Pine and he is wearing my Rolex.
We are just like all of you and we are having fun, then to get threaten by one of you moderators. Is it because the topic does not interest you? Are you going to band the other moderator for commenting?
i just never have liked being threaten by anyone that thinks they have the power.
Sorry...but you are wrong.

Relax. The threat (IMHO) was not about the topic or the OP. The moderator threat was in regards to the spin off about the naming convention and the subsequent lemonade contest that followed. Of which I participated in. Carry on.

[Likestheshiny]

You really think after decades of Rolex I don't know what 114060 is? This watch is called the SUBMARINER. No Date doesn't exist.

I find it hilarious when people say this. The term "no date" gets used because it says what watch we're talking about. It refers to exactly one watch, at one price point in one colorway, and we all know what it is. Who cares that it's not a model name? It's a descriptively useful and relevant term.

I think it's interesting to see it on a celeb's wrist, because an nd isn't something you buy by accident -- you generally have to go out of your way to avoid that date, since it's not the "standard" sub configuration. It could be just personal preference, of course, but I suspect it often points to someone who's into watches. As a group, we seem to like the date a lot less than the "average" watch owner.

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by Likestheshiny

Who cares that it's not a model name? It's a descriptively useful and relevant term.

Yup. Cuts the confusion and nails the watch.

Besides not every knows or cares to memorize every single model number.

I know, blasphemy on a Rolex site.

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by Likestheshiny

I find it hilarious when people say this. The term "no date" gets used because it says what watch we're talking about. It refers to exactly one watch, at one price point in one colorway, and we all know what it is. Who cares that it's not a model name? It's a descriptively useful and relevant term.

I think it's interesting to see it on a celeb's wrist, because an nd isn't something you buy by accident -- you generally have to go out of your way to avoid that date, since it's not the "standard" sub configuration. It could be just personal preference, of course, but I suspect it often points to someone who's into watches. As a group, we seem to like the date a lot less than the "average" watch owner.

Originally Posted by Blansky

Yup. Cuts the confusion and nails the watch.

Besides not every knows or cares to memorize every single model number.

I know, blasphemy on a Rolex site.

I do not disagree.

[locutus49]

And I do not disagree with your non-agreement. We agree to not disagree.

Originally Posted by Easy E

I do not disagree.

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by BumbleB

Cheers mate, just got tired of the negativity some members bring to posts


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Don’t worry about it.
Officially it’s submariner and submariner date (114060 and 116610)

However in the trade, and within enthusiast circles, they’re commonly referred to as sub date and sub no date, and that’s the descriptions I personally choose to use.

I’m not bothered either way and if someone asked me about a submariner, I’d automatically ask “date or no date?”.

Either way, no big drama, some people just like an arguement

[Tools]

Originally Posted by Nairn1980

. . .

However in the trade, and within enthusiast circles, they’re commonly referred to as sub date and sub no date, and that’s the descriptions I personally choose to use.

. . .

The question is "when did everything get reversed?".

Nobody calls the 5513 a "no date", or a 5508 or 5512, or any other Sub. Why do people feel the need to add no date to the end of 14060 - they are all Subs, just like the 5513. Nobody should be confused.

The last couple of years, suddenly, the nomenclature has reversed. People are now calling the Sub a Sub no date, and the Sub Date a Sub. Exactly backwards from Rolex model names and introductions 50+ years ago.

New enthusiasts are bastardizing one of the greatest watches made, and slowly changing it's historic name to the dust bins and replacing it with the moniker "no date"

That's the trigger for true Sub fans. "Look, he's wearing a No Date 114060." No, he's not, he's wearing a Sub 114060, there is no confusion here.

[Wcdhtwn]

Marvel or DC should create a superhero called “No Date”. Problem solved.

You’re Welcome.

[Dr. Robert]

Originally Posted by Blansky

I always get bottle shock when I order wine in a restaurant and pine for the price at the store.

I bring my wine, pay corkage fee. Works out to be waaay less!