Platinum DD40 or 5711

[huncho]

can't believe people would choose steel over plat at the same price point

[VacherObsessive]

5711 because I already have Rolex and no PP. DD in plat will be too flashy for me. As someone else said. I’d take platona > 5711 as somehow it still has a discreteness while also being a heavy hitter

[VacherObsessive]

Originally Posted by huncho

can't believe people would choose steel over plat at the same price point

I think PM PP 1518 sell at auction for around $1m circa ?
PP 1518 in steel sold for $11m

Metal don’t matter in the luxury world, people are mad.

[Russell996]

I must be missing something, I thought the pt day date is over twice the price of the 5711/1A?

[huncho]

Originally Posted by Russell996

I must be missing something, I thought the pt day date is over twice the price of the 5711/1A?

it is but its impossible to get a 5711 at retail so this is going by grey prices

[QLlector]

5711 at grey is absurd, even if it drops to 40k.
Anything at 40k MSRP is a better option, start from a Dd and downgrade to your preference, dont waste your money on a 5711 itch that will fade pretty quick.

[strettyend]

Originally Posted by QLlector

5711 at grey is absurd, even if it drops to 40k.
Anything at 40k MSRP is a better option, start from a Dd and downgrade to your preference, dont waste your money on a 5711 itch that will fade pretty quick.

Would maybe pay $30k for one tbh

[jerryguo]

interesting question, at first i thought I would pick 5711, but after more thinking i think the DD is the way to go for me. just love the presence and weight of a platinum watch


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Originally Posted by SearChart

DD, no contest. 5711 is hugely overrated and shouldn't be more than €18-20k for what it is IMO.

This!

[Hollie_Rollie]

Dd

[iLLGT2]

Originally Posted by SearChart

DD, no contest. 5711 is a nice watch but hugely overrated and shouldn't be more than €18-20k for what it is IMO.

Agreed! Back in 11-12 when I bought those at 21-25 for 5712 i thought they were overpriced then by a good margin!

DD not even a question

[campfire]

Day-Date

[klenboy]

Definitely the DD!

[Kirsty87]

DD

No question

The 5711/1A is all hype

[fskywalker]

DD


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[Majin Buu]

I see watches as tools, for that, even on PM,
the DD, for me, is the way to go !

Cheers!

J.

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by huncho

it is but its impossible to get a 5711 at retail so this is going by grey prices

Of course it’s not, every piece on the used market was purchased at retail at some point - the only issue is too many people aren’t prepared to wait.

The comparison is a 5711/1A at £23k or a pt DD at £50k. Or much better to look used for the DD due to the poor value retention.

The obvious answer is of course get the 5711 new , less than half the price and high horology or be sensible and buy the pt DD used. Both are great options.

[huncho]

Originally Posted by Russell996

Of course it’s not, every piece on the used market was purchased at retail at some point - the only issue is too many people aren’t prepared to wait.

The comparison is a 5711/1A at £23k or a pt DD at £50k. Or much better to look used for the DD due to the poor value retention.

The obvious answer is of course get the 5711 new , less than half the price and high horology or be sensible and buy the pt DD used. Both are great options.

yeah they were purchased at retail by people willing to spend enough to get one at retail. not really the same thing lol, either way you're not buying at retail

[QLlector]

Originally Posted by Russell996

Of course it’s not, every piece on the used market was purchased at retail at some point - the only issue is too many people aren’t prepared to wait.

The comparison is a 5711/1A at £23k or a pt DD at £50k. Or much better to look used for the DD due to the poor value retention.

The obvious answer is of course get the 5711 new , less than half the price and high horology or be sensible and buy the pt DD used. Both are great options.

Its not the people aren't willing to wait.
AD’s aren’t willing to talk about steel Pateks.
If I know I will be allocated one in 5 years time I would delightedly wait. Its BS for sure from the AD end (rightfully so given the noise and smoke surrounding these models from flippers).

With Rolex however, I found that ADs are much more welcoming relative to Patek ADs, I even managed to get several SS models either immediately or with minimum wait just because we have pretty good chats.

Never was I as successful with Patek ADs though I tried pretty hard..

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by QLlector

Its not the people aren't willing to wait.
AD’s aren’t willing to talk about steel Pateks.
If I know I will be allocated one in 5 years time I would delightedly wait. Its BS for sure from the AD end (rightfully so given the noise and smoke surrounding these models from flippers).

With Rolex however, I found that ADs are much more welcoming relative to Patek ADs, I even managed to get several SS models either immediately or with minimum wait just because we have pretty good chats.

Never was I as successful with Patek ADs though I tried pretty hard..

Try harder.

[Boaters]

5711

[Calatrava r]

To me the 5711 and DD in Platinum are very different. I would take the DD any day over the very flimsy 5711.

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by huncho

yeah they were purchased at retail by people willing to spend enough to get one at retail. not really the same thing lol, either way you're not buying at retail

If you really believe that then your decision is easy in this choice. I know you are wrong so my choice is equally easy.

[QLlector]

Originally Posted by Russell996

Try harder.

Never thought about that, thanks.

Its quite hard to find someone willing to take 30k for a time only watch. Its really silly if you think about it. Therefore any “luxury experience” is practically lost at this stage.

So the normal flow of events is people turning more and more to indies and other established brands

[huncho]

Originally Posted by Russell996

If you really believe that then your decision is easy in this choice. I know you are wrong so my choice is equally easy.

to clarify i'm not saying its impossible if you want to wait 5-10 years, just that its impossible to get if you want it relatively soon

[wisguy]

Originally Posted by nyg1121

which one is the bentley?

pp.

[watchshot94]

Dd

[mobster600]

Honestly I think the 5711. It’s more versatile and a watch that can be worn up or down. The DD is dress watch, if that fits your collection then it’s a no brainer.

At MSRP the DD is more expensive. Can you get a 5711 at MSRP is the question we should be asking? You can buy a DD + SS for the staggering grey price of 5711.

[Setarip]

No question.

DD.

[peterpl]

Originally Posted by wisguy

pp.

But the PP5711 does not feel like a Bently at all. LOL

It feels very light, flimsy and its nowhere near as Robust as the Rolex. Oh hangon yeah Bently is pretty much the same. hahaah