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Old 24 April 2020, 05:13 AM   #31
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It's a tough call for sure. I think it comes down in part to how you treat your watches and how bothered you are by wear and tear. The ceramic bezel on the daytona isn't going to wear like the AP RO. I'm really easy on my stuff and I own an AP 15400 RG on strap and AP 15202. I feel like I get the best of both worlds with those. It's true with people say about the bracelet though, it really is something special. I considered getting the RG bracelet for my 15400, but for the cost I'd probably just put it towards a DD40. I will likely get a rubber strap for my 15400.

The level of finishing on the bracelet is top notch, but in RG it's going to show more wear because of that high level of finishing. Also, I prefer the 15400 to the 15500, you may have better luck finding one of those in the current environment.
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Old 27 April 2020, 03:07 AM   #32
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UPDATE

So I am still conflicted. Tomorrow's not promised but I don't think it's time to go full RG AP with bracelet yet - I want a long term watch goal (like many of you this is an obsession). Obtaining the grail for my next milestone birthday (which is 8 years away) seems more ideal. I keep telling myself these are just luxury watches and I don't need any of them in all honesty, so take it slow.

Here is my dilemma:

I don't know whether for now to just enjoy the Daytona.
- It's a Daytona!
- I don't care much for the Oyster bracelet to be honest, so I won't miss that with the Oysterflex.
- The main con is the dial feels very busy.


Or get the AP on a strap.
- Dial is perfect.
- I could update the entire watch down the line with bracelet and whatever the latest movement is, in X number of years?
- Con: Feel like I am getting half the watch. The bracelet is everything. From what I have heard, Gerald Genta began designing the bracelet first.


Without being able to visit any dealers or try anything on. I can't make the decision. The question is do you go for half the grail watch that you want (AP) or a completely different watch that you also love (Daytona) until your ready for the grail (AP RG Bracelet)?

Also who knows what you will want down the line. I could get the AP now and feel like I want something completely different in a few years.
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Old 27 April 2020, 03:45 AM   #33
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So I am still conflicted. Tomorrow's not promised but I don't think it's time to go full RG AP with bracelet yet - I want a long term watch goal (like many of you this is an obsession). Obtaining the grail for my next milestone birthday (which is 8 years away) seems more ideal. I keep telling myself these are just luxury watches and I don't need any of them in all honesty, so take it slow.



Here is my dilemma:



I don't know whether for now to just enjoy the Daytona.

- It's a Daytona!

- I don't care much for the Oyster bracelet to be honest, so I won't miss that with the Oysterflex.

- The main con is the dial feels very busy.





Or get the AP on a strap.

- Dial is perfect.

- I could update the entire watch down the line with bracelet and whatever the latest movement is, in X number of years?

- Con: Feel like I am getting half the watch. The bracelet is everything. From what I have heard, Gerald Genta began designing the bracelet first.





Without being able to visit any dealers or try anything on. I can't make the decision. The question is do you go for half the grail watch that you want (AP) or a completely different watch that you also love (Daytona) until your ready for the grail (AP RG Bracelet)?



Also who knows what you will want down the line. I could get the AP now and feel like I want something completely different in a few years.
No need to rush it. Its not like either watches are going anywhere.

Since you are still unsure, you should definitely try both on first before making a decision since both of the watches shouldn't be too hard to get.

Sure it may take a couple of weeks/months but at least you wont be throwing some serious dough on something you may regret getting.

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Old 27 April 2020, 04:10 AM   #34
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In this case get what you want, otherwise you will never be satisfied. So what if you want something else in a few years, thats what makes this a fun hobby in the first place! #yolo


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UPDATE

So I am still conflicted. Tomorrow's not promised but I don't think it's time to go full RG AP with bracelet yet - I want a long term watch goal (like many of you this is an obsession). Obtaining the grail for my next milestone birthday (which is 8 years away) seems more ideal. I keep telling myself these are just luxury watches and I don't need any of them in all honesty, so take it slow.

Here is my dilemma:

I don't know whether for now to just enjoy the Daytona.
- It's a Daytona!
- I don't care much for the Oyster bracelet to be honest, so I won't miss that with the Oysterflex.
- The main con is the dial feels very busy.


Or get the AP on a strap.
- Dial is perfect.
- I could update the entire watch down the line with bracelet and whatever the latest movement is, in X number of years?
- Con: Feel like I am getting half the watch. The bracelet is everything. From what I have heard, Gerald Genta began designing the bracelet first.


Without being able to visit any dealers or try anything on. I can't make the decision. The question is do you go for half the grail watch that you want (AP) or a completely different watch that you also love (Daytona) until your ready for the grail (AP RG Bracelet)?

Also who knows what you will want down the line. I could get the AP now and feel like I want something completely different in a few years.
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Old 27 April 2020, 04:23 AM   #35
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I had that RG Daytona and it was breathtaking but I knew I probably would sell it after a couple of years and indeed I did, for a RG ROO so similar to you. In this case I would trade for the AP on strap with a view to getting it on bracelet in a couple of years, 8 seems light years away in TRF terms.
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Old 27 April 2020, 07:32 AM   #36
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Old 27 April 2020, 07:36 AM   #37
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What’s your wrist size? Those watches aren’t the same size to begin with. So if you have a 7.5” the Daytona will wear very small but if you have a 6.5” wrist then AP wears large.
Neither of those pieces should be difficult to buy.
The Daytona has a very busy dial while the AP’s dial has a lot of negative/blank space. What will you like looking at?


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Old 27 April 2020, 07:49 AM   #38
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If buying an AP, you have to wear it on bracelet. The whole appeal of the AP is the bracelet mating with the case.

I think it mostly comes down to wrist size. You need a 7.5" wrist for a 41mm APRO to look normal. I've had it 3 times, and they just look absolutely silly on a 6.75" wrist. Anyone who tells you otherwise is just delusional. If the RO was 39mm, it would be a no brainer when comparing the two.
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Old 27 April 2020, 08:42 AM   #39
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If buying an AP, you have to wear it on bracelet. The whole appeal of the AP is the bracelet mating with the case.

I think it mostly comes down to wrist size. You need a 7.5" wrist for a 41mm APRO to look normal. I've had it 3 times, and they just look absolutely silly on a 6.75" wrist. Anyone who tells you otherwise is just delusional. If the RO was 39mm, it would be a no brainer when comparing the two.
I found this helpful in terms of wrist sizes. The flatness plays a big factor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHdwFTniXhg
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Old 27 April 2020, 04:47 PM   #40
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UPDATE

So I am still conflicted. Tomorrow's not promised but I don't think it's time to go full RG AP with bracelet yet - I want a long term watch goal (like many of you this is an obsession). Obtaining the grail for my next milestone birthday (which is 8 years away) seems more ideal. I keep telling myself these are just luxury watches and I don't need any of them in all honesty, so take it slow.

Here is my dilemma:

I don't know whether for now to just enjoy the Daytona.
- It's a Daytona!
- I don't care much for the Oyster bracelet to be honest, so I won't miss that with the Oysterflex.
- The main con is the dial feels very busy.


Or get the AP on a strap.
- Dial is perfect.
- I could update the entire watch down the line with bracelet and whatever the latest movement is, in X number of years?
- Con: Feel like I am getting half the watch. The bracelet is everything. From what I have heard, Gerald Genta began designing the bracelet first.


Without being able to visit any dealers or try anything on. I can't make the decision. The question is do you go for half the grail watch that you want (AP) or a completely different watch that you also love (Daytona) until your ready for the grail (AP RG Bracelet)?

Also who knows what you will want down the line. I could get the AP now and feel like I want something completely different in a few years.

On another thread you’ve posted looking for a PP 5167. So appears you’ve more in the mix than just these 2. All quite different watches in terms of look and wear. Enjoy the hunt.


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Old 27 April 2020, 06:50 PM   #41
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I found this helpful in terms of wrist sizes. The flatness plays a big factor.
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Really good video. Thanks for sharing!
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Old 27 April 2020, 07:33 PM   #42
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‘It’s a daytona’ isnt a pro when its up against a royal ok lol
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Old 27 April 2020, 08:27 PM   #43
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On another thread you’ve posted looking for a PP 5167. So appears you’ve more in the mix than just these 2. All quite different watches in terms of look and wear. Enjoy the hunt.


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I referenced that in the beginning, but I have accepted I won't get the 5167r for MSRP without waiting for years.

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‘It’s a daytona’ isnt a pro when its up against a royal ok lol
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Old 27 April 2020, 10:16 PM   #44
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On another thread you’ve posted looking for a PP 5167. So appears you’ve more in the mix than just these 2. All quite different watches in terms of look and wear. Enjoy the hunt.


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If it was up to me and money wasnt' an issue, I too would want a 5167R, 116515LN, and RO RG!
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Old 20 October 2020, 09:47 AM   #45
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What did you end up getting? Looking at these 2 myself. Except Im also considering the WG Thanks!
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Old 20 October 2020, 10:16 AM   #46
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I would get the AP 15500 on strap and then while you are enjoying the watch I'd save up for the bracelet and buy it later
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Old 20 October 2020, 10:21 AM   #47
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You NEED the bracelet.

I would save a little more and get this one. Its the best AP

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Old 20 October 2020, 10:41 AM   #48
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I also used to have a 15450 that I added plots and a black alligator strap from AP to. It looked great, but I still much preferred the bracelet. So if you're really gunning for the AP, I'd have to say go full RG!
Will AP give or sell to you the parts necessary to attach a strap to a Royal Oak that came on a bracelet? Also, is "plots" the OEM name for that part?
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Will AP give or sell to you the parts necessary to attach a strap to a Royal Oak that came on a bracelet? Also, is "plots" the OEM name for that part?
yes, service center will sell the parts. Plots is the name.

You'll need 4 plots (very expensive, around 300 a piece x 4 last time I ordered), plus screws, plus strap, plus buckle or deployant.
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I have 15500OR with bracelet, I love it so much.

I am waiting for YG Daytona with the green dial.
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If buying an AP, you have to wear it on bracelet. The whole appeal of the AP is the bracelet mating with the case.

I think it mostly comes down to wrist size. You need a 7.5" wrist for a 41mm APRO to look normal. I've had it 3 times, and they just look absolutely silly on a 6.75" wrist. Anyone who tells you otherwise is just delusional. If the RO was 39mm, it would be a no brainer when comparing the two.
Why would it look silly on a 6.75" wrist? It has a different look on a smaller wrist and may not be as dressy, but instead I feel it looks more sporty. I feel it has the class of a RO but the sportiness of a ROOC without the excess bulk.
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Why would it look silly on a 6.75" wrist? It has a different look on a smaller wrist and may not be as dressy, but instead I feel it looks more sporty. I feel it has the class of a RO but the sportiness of a ROOC without the excess bulk.
Agreed. Its just a sportier look. I have a 6.5inch wrist and it is perfect, dont let anyone else tell you otherwise till you've tried it on.

Youll be pleasantly surprised, after all it is a masculine watch..
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yes, service center will sell the parts. Plots is the name.

You'll need 4 plots (very expensive, around 300 a piece x 4 last time I ordered), plus screws, plus strap, plus buckle or deployant.
Good to know. Thanks!
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I know these are not the models you’re looking for but I feel it’s a good representation of the contrasting styles. I was searching all over for a RG ROC chrono on strap because the full gold was out of my reach. I also looked at the RG Daytona on oysterflex. I had the same reservations you have regarding both and then found the SS ROC panda.

The ROC panda was in my price range, had AP’s trademark bracelet and has classic sporty styling that I think looks timeless. It checked all my boxes and it’s also a little easier to wear casually vs the RG.

This is biased but looking at the two watches side by side I feel one outshines the other as pure class by a country mile.
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Old 22 October 2020, 10:38 AM   #56
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Old 23 October 2020, 07:10 AM   #57
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Royal Oak Offshore would be the best for me
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Old 24 October 2020, 08:52 AM   #58
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