Rolex Hulk - need help on this one

[Yzord]

Originally Posted by donas

This keeps getting worse.....so you're the one doing the ripping off, not getting ripped off. What a great friend.

I offered him 4k and he would agree on that. What's the point? Yeah he could get more for it, but he doesn't have a clue how, where and to who.

[harvey]

Even without box and papers it’s worth twice that. He may not care about the watch but, I am sure he will care about the other 4k.

If he is a good friend, tell him to service it and then put it on sale.

[huncho]

Originally Posted by Yzord

I offered him 4k and he would agree on that. What's the point? Yeah he could get more for it, but he doesn't have a clue how, where and to who.

thats called ripping someone off lol

[Burlington]

If you’re happy with your due diligence then go for it and send in for a service !

Worst case you’re out a few k, best case you own a freshly serviced hulk at a super price.

[Rick Deckard]

Originally Posted by Yzord

It's just an offer. I have no intention to resell it, i just want it in my collection. He don't care about watches anyway and it has no box and papers.

The dial shows the characteristics of a Mk. III dial, which puts the watch (if real) anywhere between mid-2016 and today. Even in it's somewhat rocked condition and w/o B&P, you are still looking at $12.5k. If it turns out to be real, be a better friend and up the offer.

[Yzord]

Originally Posted by huncho

thats called ripping someone off lol

I don't see it that way, but i can see why you guys are seeing it.

[Yzord]

Originally Posted by Rick Deckard

The dial shows the characteristics of a Mk. II dial, which puts the watch (if real) anywhere between mid-2016 and today. Even in it's somewhat rocked condition and w/o B&P, you are still looking at $12.5k. If it turns out to be real, be a better friend and up the offer.

I agree on that if i know for sure if it is real. Thats the whole point.

[Rick Deckard]

Originally Posted by Yzord

I agree on that if i know for sure if it is real. Thats the whole point.

Let's see the clasp and the rehaut.

[Yzord]

[Black_5]

Originally Posted by Wahlberg

Or the friend knows it's a fake and tries to make an easy few thousand profit.

You aren’t friends.

Friends trust each other.

A friend would never knowingly offer a fake to another friend - at any price.

If he simply didn’t know and asked you for advice, a friend would offer good advice and a fair and reasonable offer.

Good luck with your transaction with a stranger...


SOoO many watches SOoO little time...

[Rick Deckard]

Sorry I have to ask, but the part of the clasp with ROLEX and the crown on top, is the "background" to that polished (but really dirty) or does it look "sandblasted"?

To clarify, look at the first picture in this thread: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=581317

[ssetem]

i would encourage your friend to keep the watch for sentimental reasons

[Dr.Mehr]

Originally Posted by harvey

Even without box and papers it’s worth twice that. He may not care about the watch but, I am sure he will care about the other 4k.

If he is a good friend, tell him to service it and then put it on sale.

The OP is not a true friend because this is not what a true friend would do.
You would want always the best for your friend. You should tell him honestly about the watch and then offer him a reasonable offer.

[Yzord]

Originally Posted by Rick Deckard

Sorry I have to ask, but the part of the clasp with ROLEX and the crown on top, is the "background" to that polished (but really dirty) or does it look "sandblasted"?

To clarify, look at the first picture in this thread: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=581317

It is polished

[Yzord]

Originally Posted by Dr.Mehr

The OP is not a true friend because this is not what a true friend would do.
You would want always the best for your friend. You should tell him honestly about the watch and then offer him a reasonable offer.

You have friends you know and you have friends you would die for. He is a friend i know.

[Pops1973]

I used to have friends like you.

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by ArtNouveau

Uh oh. The infamous “grandfather’s watch.”

How many Grampa's wear a Hulk? C'mon man!

[Yzord]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

How many Grampa's wear a Hulk? C'mon man!

Those were his words lol, to be honest i don't care from who it is. Like i said, it is a friend i know, not a close friend to me.

[ssetem]

dont fear the enemy who attacks you, fear the friend who flatters you

[Bigblu10]

From those pics, I am 99% sure the watch is fake.
And I owned a genuine one for 3 years so I know the real deal.

[Rick Deckard]

OK, so it looks like the characteristics of a mid-2016 or later Mk. III dial. Fine rehaut lettering, polished clasp link. I just compared it to mine, looks similar.

The dial is off a little bit counter clockwise, which is not uncommon, and can be adjusted. Again, mine is similar. But it could still be a complete fake.

Others will be able to speak more regarding authenticity, but eventually you need to have to open it, if you want to be sure.

I'll leave the moral discussion alone, although I am with the majority here. My advice: Authenticate it together. If it's real, meet somewhere in between to make you both happy.

Think Rick Harrison at Pawn Stars: Every couple of shows, someone walks in and has no idea what they have. He gets a price from the experts and then ups his bid to a realistic level. Not quiet as much as if the person would have done their homework themselves, but enough to come across fair and likeable on TV. ;)

[Bigblu10]

Roll up a long piece of duct tape into a round ball. Stick it to the case back and unscrew it. You will have your answer regarding authenticity looking at the movement itself.

[Yzord]

Originally Posted by Rick Deckard

Think Rick Harrison at Pawn Stars: Every couple of shows, someone walks in and has no idea what they have. He gets a price form the experts and then ups his bid to a realistic level. Not quiet as much as if the person would have done their homework themself, but enough to come across likeable on TV. ;)

Thats exactly my idea how to handle this, but i need to know for sure if it is the real deal then. The watch is going to a watchmaker tomorrow, so i can ask him to open it up.

And again, it is someone i see frequently, but he is not a close friend to me. I know for sure if i would tell how our relation is to each other most of you would do this deal also for 4k.

Thanks for your input.

[Yzord]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

Roll up a long piece of duct tape into a round ball. Stick it to the case back and unscrew it. You will have your answer regarding authenticity looking at the movement itself.

Hmm, i have duct tape here, but what is a round ball (i am dutch so i am not familiair with a round ball)?

[Onikage]

Some pretty bad lighting in those pics. Bezel markers don't look very crisp.

[biscotti]

Originally Posted by harvey

Can’t really tell without opening it up...

Agree, unless there is something really obvious, opening up the watch is the only way.

[harvey]

I wouldn’t recommend a novice to open the back up for 2 reasons. 1. Fear of damage; and 2. Do you even know what you’re looking for?

Leave it to the watchmaker.

[japenney]

Bezel color looks off to me but could be the lighting.

[Dr.Mehr]

Originally Posted by Yzord

Hmm, i have duct tape here, but what is a round ball (i am dutch so i am not familiair with a round ball)?

Breng de horloge naar een juwelier. Kan je gelijk zien of die echt is.
En ik zou toch liever wat meer aanbieden aan die vriend.

Ikzelf heb de Hulk en volgens mij lijkt die die niet origineel.

SUCCESS !

[greengold]

Submit it for a RSC service - they will eithe give you a quote to do the job or inform you it is fake. Only way to be sure