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Old 21 August 2020, 06:29 AM   #31
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I would recommend following up with a thoughtful gift for the SA to keep your name top of mind and let him know you’re serious.
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Old 21 August 2020, 06:31 AM   #32
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I’m always amazed that people will jump at any SS model offered. Each has its fans but I now have the two I want and no big interest in any of the others at this time. Unless something unexpected drops on September 1.
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Old 21 August 2020, 06:34 AM   #33
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I would recommend following up with a thoughtful gift for the SA to keep your name top of mind and let him know you’re serious.
I can just imagine the blowback from my wife. “You went to the jewelry store... to give a gift to the salesman???” :)
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Old 21 August 2020, 06:35 AM   #34
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—which comment isn’t meant to be dismissive of the idea!
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Old 21 August 2020, 06:46 AM   #35
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Yes, the question is what did they do with that information. Likely doodled a picture while you were giving your name and phone number.
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Old 21 August 2020, 07:14 AM   #36
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I would recommend following up with a thoughtful gift for the SA to keep your name top of mind and let him know you’re serious.
Oh my god.

OP please don’t...
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Old 21 August 2020, 07:17 AM   #37
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I would recommend following up with a thoughtful gift for the SA to keep your name top of mind and let him know you’re serious.

Hahahahaha don’t be like this guy, OP.


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Old 21 August 2020, 07:57 AM   #38
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I noticed that you are from Maryland. If you are talking to an AD in Maryland, Good Luck!
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Old 21 August 2020, 08:03 AM   #39
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Something I should know?
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Old 21 August 2020, 08:11 AM   #40
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Finally got an AD to take my info for a ss sports watch. I’m wondering if I did myself any favors by saying I’d be open to any of the 40mm options (SubDate or no date, GMTs) or if I should have specified. Know this is something I should have asked beforehand, but in the experience of others, does this kind of flexibility help or does it signal something undesirable? FWIW, I didn’t leave any room for doubt in our conversation that I know the product line.
Well you didn’t use nicknames for the references so that’s a good start

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Old 21 August 2020, 08:19 AM   #41
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The dealer cares much less about you being a flipper than probably being a dead end sale.

They can’t waste these watches on people who are one and done.
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Old 21 August 2020, 08:23 AM   #42
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I can just imagine the blowback from my wife. “You went to the jewelry store... to give a gift to the salesman???” :)




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Old 21 August 2020, 08:29 AM   #43
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The dealer cares much less about you being a flipper than probably being a dead end sale.

They can’t waste these watches on people who are one and done.
THIS.

They have clients who will buy and keep almost everything they get in the door within hours; and many are not flippers. They call them because they are great clients and they know they will buy again.

My recommendation, ask them when they usually get new models and start making it a habit of stopping in a day or two later every other week. Just say hi, and tell them you are looking to see if there is anything new. Don't be annoying. You might be surprised and see a watch that isn't your first choice but one you can enjoy now. Buy it. Wear it back in each time you come back.

If you are truly one and done, you have been saving for this one watch and this is it for you for a long long time. Just go buy it on the grey market and be done.

MSRP is nothing if you can't actually get it. People paying MSRP for hot watches are not getting a "deal" or pulling one over on you... they are spending much much much more buying up other pieces for their collections. So if you really only want to buy one hot watch in this market, MSRP isn't really real, just buy grey.
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Old 21 August 2020, 08:42 AM   #44
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Best of luck OP. As others have already said, purchase history is the most important factor in determining whether or not you will get SS pieces. Its just a terrible time if you want your first Rolex that happens to be SS sports model.
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Old 21 August 2020, 09:09 AM   #45
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That would sound like a flipper to me if I was an AD. If someone wants a GMT and is OK with either the Pepsi or the Batman, I can get it. Or Daytona, if you're OK with either white or black. Etc. But as soon as you cast such a wide net it's almost like "I'll take anything I can profit off."
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Old 21 August 2020, 09:35 AM   #46
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AD are thieves they don’t care about anyone all they care about is SALES.
Not sure where most you guys get this Nonsense from?
They have a quota to meet monthly
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Old 21 August 2020, 09:37 AM   #47
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From all of the posts I’ve seen accusing AD’s of selling out the back door to flippers maybe it won’t hurt to have them think you may be one. Could possibly get you the watch you want quicker if they think you’ll flip it and be back to buy another in a month.


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Old 21 August 2020, 11:10 AM   #48
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MSRP is nothing if you can't actually get it. People paying MSRP for hot watches are not getting a "deal" or pulling one over on you... they are spending much much much more buying up other pieces for their collections. So if you really only want to buy one hot watch in this market, MSRP isn't really real, just buy grey.
This is a really compelling way to look a it.

In my case, I have a watch that I love (a 16610), so I’m kind of take-it-if-it-comes with the AD watch—if it never happens, I’ll be content. I’m not going to pay the gray premium, even though I’d like to have to have a Batman. But I get the logic of this.

As for being a one and done: this hobby is an illness. :) Even if I say now, this will be the last watch I ever plan to buy, what are the f-ing odds? That’s what I said like 7 watches ago.
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Old 21 August 2020, 12:50 PM   #49
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Aside from the flipper sentiments others have said (and I agree with), the SA wants a guaranteed sale when they pick up the phone.

They are going to call people who have asked specifically for the piece or offer it to their whales before you.
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Old 21 August 2020, 01:29 PM   #50
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I can just imagine the blowback from my wife. “You went to the jewelry store... to give a gift to the salesman???” :)
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Old 21 August 2020, 02:13 PM   #51
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buy what you want...if they offer you, just say yes or no

I've been offered hulk 3 times over past couple years... i've said no 3 times.

but i said yes to Daytona SS, BLRO, and BLNR
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Old 21 August 2020, 02:17 PM   #52
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LOL ADs don’t care about flippers they care about money
Can't they care about both?
If they lose AD status, won't that be a major financial loss?
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Old 21 August 2020, 03:26 PM   #53
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Can't they care about both?
If they lose AD status, won't that be a major financial loss?

My personal opinion. I think the idea of ADs losing status because they’re selling to flippers is internet urban legend.
Flipping is a byproduct of the incredible hype and demand. Isn’t it the level of hype that all brands strive for?


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Old 21 August 2020, 03:38 PM   #54
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They missed the joke...

Dude crushed the subtle troll in another thread just the same way. Legend.
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Old 21 August 2020, 03:55 PM   #55
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In my experience, being flexible is a good thing. The ADs know the market, and understand why someone would want any of several SS sport models. It’s all about how you ask, if you’re a local buyer, and what relationships have been built. However (and this is anecdotal, of course), only the owner/manager actually decides how to distribute their incoming hot watches, and they probably won’t know your name unless you’re a big spender VIP. But you never know, I’ve also seen special watches skip down the “wait list”. Good luck!
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Old 21 August 2020, 04:50 PM   #56
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Finally got an AD to take my info for a ss sports watch. I’m wondering if I did myself any favors by saying I’d be open to any of the 40mm options (SubDate or no date, GMTs) or if I should have specified. Know this is something I should have asked beforehand, but in the experience of others, does this kind of flexibility help or does it signal something undesirable? FWIW, I didn’t leave any room for doubt in our conversation that I know the product line.
What’s your purchase history like? That will make a massive difference
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Old 21 August 2020, 07:16 PM   #57
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What’s your purchase history like? That will make a massive difference
None—which is why I’m not holding my breath.
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Finally got an AD to take my info for a ss sports watch. I’m wondering if I did myself any favors by saying I’d be open to any of the 40mm options (SubDate or no date, GMTs) or if I should have specified. Know this is something I should have asked beforehand, but in the experience of others, does this kind of flexibility help or does it signal something undesirable? FWIW, I didn’t leave any room for doubt in our conversation that I know the product line.
All ADs are in business for one thing only to sell watches to anyone that has the cash to buy no matter the reference watch.
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Old 21 August 2020, 08:22 PM   #59
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So, if I spent $20k in purchase at my local AD, what are my chances in getting a SS sport model?
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Old 21 August 2020, 08:57 PM   #60
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So, if I spent $20k in purchase at my local AD, what are my chances in getting a SS sport model?
lol why wouldn’t you just go grey at that point
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