Who here has bought a prestige car but...

[Spectre38]

Originally Posted by twitch54

that is correct, formely a 'business man special' (150), had a back seat delete. Pennsylvania Power and Light company car back in the day.

Very Cool. I had a 1938 business coupe that originally had a single drivers seat, the rest was storage space. My dad and I made it into a Street Rod, 327cid, Turbo 350, 12 bolt 3.73 Posi car.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by twitch54

I hear 'ya but look at it this way, do you think in 65 years your Honda will have even a remote possibility of being in the same league as a 'Tri-Five' ?? Not a chance !!!!

Well, I didn't make my post to compare the relative merits of Chevrolet and Honda, or the longevity or appeal of either.

My point was that having been born in 1949, I remember when Chevrolet automobiles from the 1950s were everywhere.

Then I qualified that, because in those days, you wouldn't see many as finely outfitted as yours.

Sorry that you were offended.

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[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

Not all black paint is the same.

Agree, the type of black paint lifecycle matters.

Why would anyone procure a 'presteige' car and then settle on the paint???

[twitch54]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

Well, I didn't make my post to compare the relative merits of Chevrolet and Honda, or the longevity or appeal of either.

My point was that having been born on 1949, I remember when Chevrolet automobiles from the 1950s were everywhere.

Then I qualified that, because in those days, you wouldn't see many as finely outfitted as yours.

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No, No, I get that, sorry, didn't mean to come across that way, besides my '55 was nothing but a 'Plain Jane' back in it's day. The point is certain cars in certain time periods will always be classic. There is a night and day difference between a '54 and a '55 Chevy. Truth be told of the 'Tri-Fives' the '56 is considered the step child.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by twitch54

No, No, I get that, sorry, didn't mean to come across that way, besides my '55 was nothing but a 'Plain Jane' back in it's day. The point is certain cars in certain time periods will always be classic. There is a night and day difference between a '54 and a '55 Chevy. Truth be told of the 'Tri-Fives' the '56 is considered the step child.

Okay. Glad we're cool.

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[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Agree, the type of black paint lifecycle matters.

Why would anyone producre a 'presteige' car and then settle on the paint???

Good question.

However after speaking to a friend at Mannheim remarketing, the company that handles a majority of lease backs for major manufacturers it’s a real issue because approx 5 to 6 of 10 Porsche Volvo bmw merc audi cars off lease are either white or black. This affects resale and auction prices.

The feeling is that charging people $800-1500 for better paint choice and quality isn’t worth it and that it should be no charge.


(Kinda the premise of the post)

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

The feeling is that charging people $800-1500 for better paint choice and quality isn’t worth it and that it should be no charge.
(Kinda the premise of the post)

Ahhh, ok. Have seen in Fcar circles where Arrest Me Red is more $$ than silver, for example. Aston Martin is green of course.

Maybe it depends on the marque?

Of course a Gulf paint scheme is a different $$$$ animal depending on the automobile.

[Nikrnic]

A few years ago the pigments that are used to make red paint went way up in price so I can see that being justified for certain reds, I wouldn't pay for an upcharge myself. I remember when the 63 Sting Ray came out, my dad bought a black split window, the Sebring silver was a $100. upcharge, that was a big deal.

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[OttawaSteve]

About 80% of Porsche sports cars (911, 718) are white, black, grey or one of the silvers. I don't think its because people don't want to pay more (guards red and racing yellow are free along with white and black), but because they want it that way.

Re Black getting dirty quickly; the best line I heard was "black isn't a color, it's a hobby".

[wesdaniel]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

Do like me and buy the car you like and talk about it like it was hand-built in the Swiss Alps by a secret team of automotive engineers and master craftsmen, and was shipped to the US on a private submarine.

Good thinking!

In all seriousness, we drive a Lexus RX350 (white) and a Volvo XC60 (white), which I don't think of as "prestige" cars. When I think of prestige cars, I think of Bentley, Rolls, Maybach, and the like.

Either way, I choose cars almost exclusively in white mostly because I like the way they look and they hide dirt fairly well. I've never really given a thought to paint color specifically, I'm just drawn to white cars and that's what I end up with.

[Spectre38]

Originally Posted by twitch54

There is a night and day difference between a '54 and a '55 Chevy. Truth be told of the 'Tri-Fives' the '56 is considered the step child.

I do love the '54 BelAir, and of the Tri-Fives... '56 is my favorite. I must be in the minority.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by wesdaniel

Good thinking!



In all seriousness, we drive a Lexus RX350 (white) and a Volvo XC60 (white), which I don't think of as "prestige" cars. When I think of prestige cars, I think of Bentley, Rolls, Maybach, and the like.



Either way, I choose cars almost exclusively in white mostly because I like the way they look and they hide dirt fairly well. I've never really given a thought to paint color specifically, I'm just drawn to white cars and that's what I end up with.

I've owned my share of white cars, too, and here in the desert, it's a wise choice. I've never had a black car before and actually once swore I'd never own one, but here I am with a black car and living in the desert.

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[LuckyHubbyW/aDJ]

I myself have never owned a Black car though I have to admit when freshly washed and detailed it looks great ...... for about 10 minutes until the dust and whatnot starts to appear?

Especially during the Spring with the pollen!! I go crazy!!

My wife's MDX was Black and it drove me nuts whenever we'd use it on the weekends for family outing. It never bothered her of course!?!

[arguscanis]

I just won’t do the nice car, nice paint anymore.
This is the latest; dirt is virtually undetectable!

[twitch54]

Originally Posted by Spectre38

I do love the '54 BelAir, and of the Tri-Fives... '56 is my favorite. I must be in the minority.

LOL, it's all good !

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by arguscanis

I just won’t do the nice car, nice paint anymore.
This is the latest; dirt is virtually undetectable!

Nice try.

$50k truck with a premium paint code.


(Don’t ask me how I know)

[daveo5]

I live in the Nevada desert. BMW Alpine white. White doesn’t fade under hot sun unlike any other color.


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[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by daveo5

I live in the Nevada desert. BMW Alpine white. White doesn’t fade under hot sun unlike any other color.


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This makes sense.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

Nice try.

$50k truck with a premium paint code.


(Don’t ask me how I know)

[Dr.Brian]

I bought a prestige car and then Seth came along and showed me what a prestige car really is.
I ponied up for the upgrade metallic paint but I actually never liked the wheels on my Mercedes, but I’m too cheap to buy new replacements as 1. there’s nothing wrong with them and 2. I’ll probably just give them a bunch of curb rash anyway.
And, I’m like $5K closer to a real prestige car!

[Bstewart]

Stuck with Narvik black on my 2020 Land Rover

[droptopman]

I almost always get black. Not metallic black but black. I special ordered a S5 Audi a few years back and did silver which on that model was an upgrade. At least the silver I chose. Much easier to keep clean, but just not as "cool" When I ordered my AMG back to black.....Black is a PITA but love it when it is detailed. I enjoy messing with the paint so works for me. However,,,,I am thinking about doing a matte gray or black wrap on it in the spring. MB offers matte finishes but they are 3-10K upcharges depending on the vehicle. The more the vehicle the more the upcharge...I did grind on that decision quite a bit when ordering but opted for some other options instead of the matte paint.

So to answer your question, yes. Stock black paint on a special order.

[Speedbird-1]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

Well, I didn't make my post to compare the relative merits of Chevrolet and Honda, or the longevity or appeal of either.

My point was that having been born in 1949, I remember when Chevrolet automobiles from the 1950s were everywhere.

Then I qualified that, because in those days, you wouldn't see many as finely outfitted as yours.

Sorry that you were offended.

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You're a '49er. too......which month, Grady?

[Speedbird-1]

Originally Posted by droptopman

I almost always get black. Not metallic black but black. I special ordered a S5 Audi a few years back and did silver which on that model was an upgrade. At least the silver I chose. Much easier to keep clean, but just not as "cool" When I ordered my AMG back to black.....Black is a PITA but love it when it is detailed. I enjoy messing with the paint so works for me. However,,,,I am thinking about doing a matte gray or black wrap on it in the spring. MB offers matte finishes but they are 3-10K upcharges depending on the vehicle. The more the vehicle the more the upcharge...I did grind on that decision quite a bit when ordering but opted for some other options instead of the matte paint.

So to answer your question, yes. Stock black paint on a special order.

Black is so elegant too, isn't it.
(Not my car, unfortunately)

[Andad]

Designo Graphite.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by Speedbird-1

You're a '49er. too......which month, Grady?

September.

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[Blansky]

Originally Posted by Spectre38

I do love the '54 BelAir, and of the Tri-Fives... '56 is my favorite. I must be in the minority.

56 is my favorite as well.

Most people can't tell the difference between the 55 and 56 except the real gearheads. The 57 is easily identified. I was also a big fan of the Nomads.

I had 57 Pontiac Hearse that I drove for a while.

The early 50s cars were never considered cool until fairly recently. Basically it was all 55-57. Even the 58 style was not really sought after much. American Graffiti may have brought a bit of cool factor to it later.

I had a lot of hot rod friends back then with Model As, 55-57 muscle and Scat Pack Mopar, Ford Cobras, Chevelles,etc One guy even went on to race Funny Cars. (Gordie Bonin...240 Gordie)

[kirksingleton]

I am ordering a new Porsche 911. I won't pay for the metallic color uncharge. the "regular" colors are fine. seems like a scam to me.

[twitch54]

[QUOTE=Blansky;10853120]56 is my favorite as well.

Most people can't tell the difference between the 55 and 56 except the real gearheads. The 57 is easily identified. [quote]

Not really, those of us old enough can EASILY tell the difference between a '55 and a '56 !

Regardless, both great cars of the Harley Earl era, I'm pretty sure his stamp was on the '56....

[twitch54]

Originally Posted by kirksingleton

I am ordering a new Porsche 911. I won't pay for the metallic color uncharge. the "regular" colors are fine. seems like a scam to me.

sweet, what color did you decide on ?