3235 break-in developments (new Sub Date)

[bmb15]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

I hear you

In twenty years time the only Rolex I have sent for regulation is a 3235 movement .
I own 6 with 3135s ,2007-2019 .All very accurate.

We are in the same boat.

My wife has an Explorer II, Ref. 216570, Caliber 3187, purchased in 2017.
It is running absolutely perfect, but it was a shock when I started comparing it with the very bad early 3235 (Sea-Dweller) and 3285 (GMT-Master II) movements. On the positive side, I was extremely lucky to get these watches very very early!

Therefore I'm curious how the 2020 Submariner experience is.

[TswaneNguni]

Originally Posted by bmb15

We are in the same boat.

My wife has an Explorer II, Ref. 216570, Caliber 3187, purchased in 2017.
It is running absolutely perfect, but it was a shock when I started comparing it with the very bad early 3235 (Sea-Dweller) and 3285 (GMT-Master II) movements. On the positive side, I was extremely lucky to get these watches very very early!

Therefore I'm curious how the 2020 Submariner experience is.

Own black and white EXPL II 42s ..both very accurate !

[padi56]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

I hear you

In twenty years time the only Rolex I have sent for regulation is a 3235 movement .
I own 6 with 3135s ,2007-2019 .All very accurate.

Like Padi says ,new movements may have niggles and will be sorted out .Therefore my question on the 3235s in the 2020 releases .Its a question out of interest ,not to condemn the movement as a lemon .

I do not like the gritty feel of the winding and setting the time in reverse on the 3235
I do like the clear indication of fully wound on the 3235.

Well in some ways the 32 series is based on the older movements like the 1970s cal 3035,3085.And because of the longer power-reserve in the 32 movement the spring-barrel is much thinner than the 31 series, so its possible it might seem to be like you put feel gritty.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by garyk

I find this interesting. 12 Rolexes since the 70s and I could not begin to tell you fast, slow, reserve, etc. instead, I can tell you I’ve never had one make me late or cause me to miss something I was watching the time for. I can also tell you how much I have enjoyed owning them and wearing them and I sincerely hope my two sons really appreciate their dads hobby when they inherit them...someday...

Exactly the same Gary

I understand the OP, and to some it’s a point of interest and that’s fine, to each their own.

I’ve owned the new movements in my SD43 from May of 2017 (doesn’t get much earlier than that) and never noticed a timing issue with it or my BLRO from early 2018. I suppose they could be real dogs though

[garyk]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Exactly the same Gary

I understand the OP, and to some it’s a point of interest and that’s fine, to each their own.

I’ve owned the new movements in my SD43 from May of 2017 (doesn’t get much earlier than that) and never noticed a timing issue with it or my BLRO from early 2018. I suppose they could be real dogs though

Lol, probably ok at this point!!!

[Guybrush]

FWIW I retract the claim in my OP that the speeding-up has endured; a couple days on (since Sunday) and it appears to have returned to its normal -1.5sec/day.

Guess I can go back to watching the paint dry now. :) I assure you, I do live an interesting life!!! I'm just fascinated by automatic watches and how these little doo-dads can be so precise and resilient, and also the dynamics of them--how they vary and develop. Maybe I'm a minority here, but I generally find the insides of these watches every bit if not more glorious than the exteriors, which could explain why I'm a sucker for gaudy watches with clear casebacks. I'm one of those people who frequently holds my Rolex up to his ear to listen to the escapement plugging away. Flame away.

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by amanbra

All of my watches run faster dial up resting vs me wearing them.

They all run slower when I rest them crown up or down. It is a useful way to regulate your watch overnight.


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Dial up is the least amount of friction on all the movement pivots. Leave in this position at night and it will slowly gain a few seconds a week. Better to gain than lose. My watch was -2 until I changed resting position at night.

[amanbra]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

Dial up is the least amount of friction on all the movement pivots. Leave in this position at night and it will slowly gain a few seconds a week. Better to gain than lose. My watch was -2 until I changed resting position at night.

I’m pretty sure it’s because gravity affects the balance wheel differently when dial up or down.


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[Pitachan]

I just took over a 2013 hulk from my ex boss, which he seldom wear over the 7 years of ownership, kept in wonder most of the time.

I was presently surprised that after a week of wearing it, it runs on 0 sec deviation, I’m very curious to know from members here if this is something to be excited about.

I know that the watch runs differently in different position, just really glad that my lifestyle would makes my watch runs near perfection.

As for members who think precision geek like us worry about thing that makes us enjoy the watch less, tracking precision is just one of our way of enjoying the watches. By knowing the watch precision, and if it runs near 0, it makes us wants to wear the watch even more each day. So please do not worry about us not being able to enjoy the watch by being disturbed by the precision.

[Ihatecheese]

It seems best to measure accuracy over a longer period. Say a week or longer as there are too many variables in folks daily lives.
Unless it sits in a desk being stared at and having timing measurements taken hourly, which doesn't serve much purpose except confirming that in one specific position it operates in such a way.

[jimcameron]

Originally Posted by garyk

I find this interesting. 12 Rolexes since the 70s and I could not begin to tell you fast, slow, reserve, etc. instead, I can tell you I’ve never had one make me late or cause me to miss something I was watching the time for. I can also tell you how much I have enjoyed owning them and wearing them and I sincerely hope my two sons really appreciate their dads hobby when they inherit them...someday...

Amen

[DJ2020]

I purchased a 126200 Black dial with the 3235 movement in early October 2020. It runs -4 per day. I sent it back to the AD for regulation. It was returned at +3 per day. I wore it a couple weeks and returned it once again for regulation when my repairman broke my pallet fork. He replaced the part and re-timed it to just about 0. on his timer. Now its back to running -4 on my wrist. I wear it 24-7

From what I have read here on the forums (i'm new to the forum) I should wait awhile before final regulation. Any thoughts? am I wanting a regulation to soon?

[sambb]

how do you measure the accuracy?

[Calatrava r]

I never check the accuracy of my watches. If I did, I would just carry the cellphone for time as it is always spot on.

[Guybrush]

Originally Posted by sambb

how do you measure the accuracy?

I sync to my iPhone.

[FTX I]

Originally Posted by sambb

how do you measure the accuracy?

time.is

[DJ2020]

Originally Posted by sambb

how do you measure the accuracy?

Timeis

[Jostack]

So, it goes like this...

You should never expect a watch to be accurate within spec. Just be happy if it is.

And definitely don’t post about it here.

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by Jostack

So, it goes like this...

You should never expect a watch to be accurate within spec. Just be happy if it is.

And definitely don’t post about it here.

Lol. All of mine are in spec and my Lange is 0.0. Just saying

[sheldonsmith]

Originally Posted by GGGMT

What app is that

It’s WatchTracker for iOS. Great App and great developer.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/watch-tracker/id610666926

~ Sheldon

[DCheeta]

I’ve been wearing my new 124060 (cal 3230] for a month now, and it’s running -1/day.

[thlax]

My sub date is month and half old. Has been running -2/day. First Rolex that I've had run slow. My 114060 ran +/-0. Most everything else was +2


126610

[DJ2020]

Originally Posted by Jostack

So, it goes like this...

You should never expect a watch to be accurate within spec. Just be happy if it is.

And definitely don’t post about it here.

I own two Omegas 42 PO 8500 +2, 41 AT -.05(8900) , DJ2 -2 (3235) and a oyster perpetual 116000 that was purchased 2019 that runs 0.00 since the day I purchased it. Cal 3130. So when I purchased the 126200 with the new 3235 advertised at -2\+2 I was in. I even called RSCNY and asked them is the -2\+2 on the wrist? they responded absolutely. So Yes, I do expect my 126200 to be within spec. My question was more intended to ask members with experience if I needed to run this movement a few months before having it regulated. My DJ2 (3235) was purchased used. So I was wondering if in fact this new movment need a break in period so to speak. Did not intend to ruffle any feathers.

[peterskinner]

I used to obsessively ‘time’ my new Rolex watches. Now I don’t bother. They seem just fine, and I enjoy them more. If ultra-precision matters, buy a good quartz GS.

[thlax]

Originally Posted by peterskinner

I used to obsessively ‘time’ my new Rolex watches. Now I don’t bother. They seem just fine, and I enjoy them more. If ultra-precision matters, buy a good quartz GS.

Same...

I just adjusted the time for end of DST so I was able to notice the delta since I originally set the time on time.gov on 9/25? When I got it :)


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[Rado63]

I think the point the OP is trying to make he is that there may be some issues affecting the accuracy of the early 3235 movements. Running slow will likely lead to running slower and then stop, and then sent in for repair hopefully while still in warranty. My 126600 is a slow runner and it bothers me. I would rather a watch be consistently + than consistently -. My watch probably has whatever the 3235 design imperfection is that needs replacement and I will send it in when it gets even slower. problems with the 3235 have been discussed before and hopefully Rolex will have identified and improved this issue so those of us who get service will have a better running watch.

[TswaneNguni]

Seems there are more 3235 slow runners than fast runners ...

[bmb15]

Originally Posted by Rado63

I think the point the OP is trying to make he is that there may be some issues affecting the accuracy of the early 3235 movements. Running slow will likely lead to running slower and then stop, and then sent in for repair hopefully while still in warranty. My 126600 is a slow runner and it bothers me. I would rather a watch be consistently + than consistently -. My watch probably has whatever the 3235 design imperfection is that needs replacement and I will send it in when it gets even slower. problems with the 3235 have been discussed before and hopefully Rolex will have identified and improved this issue so those of us who get service will have a better running watch.

Exactly this, all corect what you say.
When did you buy your 126600?
How slow is it running (s/d) and how do you measure? Amplitude values are important, do you measure them too for your 126600?
Curious about your experience and data.

[tomallen]

It is my understanding that a fully wound watch sets in one position with no movement dial up it will begin to run a little faster as it runs down.

[JoseR]

[QUOTE=Guybrush;11041048]I sync to my iPhone.[/QUOTE

Exactly. I sync with my cell..