Vacheron Contantin- Undervalued

[Chute]

Thanks to the OP for starting this thread and to all the contributors.
I’m considering the silver 4500v Overseas.
I have a black APRO 15400 and added rubber and alligator straps.
I like the ease in changing on the VC, plus the extension links (2 of them) are a big draw.
Honestly, I have tried to get a white PP 5711 since 2015 and it just never happened.
Now that they are discontinued and way to expensive for my comfort, the OS is very appealing.
I considered a silver AP 15300 but if the lug to lug on the VC really is 3mm shorter that the 15400, it should be perfect.
Hopefully I’ll be able to share some wrist shots and thoughts versus the 15400 soon.

[Megalobyte]

Originally Posted by MCMartiny

Fantastic shots of the silver OS!

Makes me want one!

How comfortable is the bracelet?

Extremely. And it has 2 completely hidden 2mm micro extensions built into the links near the clasp. Can use one or both.


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[Secretariat]

Originally Posted by Chute

Thanks to the OP for starting this thread and to all the contributors.
I’m considering the silver 4500v Overseas.
I have a black APRO 15400 and added rubber and alligator straps.
I like the ease in changing on the VC, plus the extension links (2 of them) are a big draw.
Honestly, I have tried to get a white PP 5711 since 2015 and it just never happened.
Now that they are discontinued and way to expensive for my comfort, the OS is very appealing.
I considered a silver AP 15300 but if the lug to lug on the VC really is 3mm shorter that the 15400, it should be perfect.
Hopefully I’ll be able to share some wrist shots and thoughts versus the 15400 soon.

You're Very Welcome, Sir. By the way, I also have the VC Overseas 4500V in the Silver Dial.

[Scyb]

Hi all,

Looking for a bit of advice from all the seasoned VC collectors out there.

I will be picking up a 4500v blue dial from the boutique in the coming week. Are there any tips on what freebies to ask them for? I heard they may have a belt?

Thanks in Advance

[Oxfordian]

Originally Posted by Megalobyte

I honestly think the new OS wears smaller than 41mm suggests. And it’s fairly thin and light. I know blue is the obvious choice but the silver is very understated and really nice looking in person.



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OMG that dial is stunning, just brilliant.

Thanks for posting these pictures you have sold me on what dial colour to get and it isn't the blue or the black.

Fantastic watch with that wonderful silver sunburst dial, congratulations.

[AHG]

I personally don't love the OS design, but appreciate it nonetheless. But I think Vacheron is much more than the OS. I just ordered a Traditionnelle small seconds. I just find it to have more character than a Patek as do many of their watches. I love Patek as well (though I don't own one) but I appreciate that Vacheron has watches that are more "outside of the box" especially given how old of a brand they are. In addition I think Patek movements are still underwhelming from a power reserve capacity.
Vacheron's problem is marketing.

[snarkq]

You have to ask how czapek in their first attempt produced a stronger design than the overseas? Vacheron strength is not design. Great value yes.

The overseas perpetual ultra thin is an exception


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[ap1]

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[Secretariat]

Originally Posted by ap1

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Beautiful.

[MeepHead]

Does anyone here own a 37mm overseas.. I wish it had the same layout as the 41mm. The 41mm is too big for me overall because of the way the watch rests. The 37mm might be too small. 7” wrists.

[Etschell]

Originally Posted by MeepHead

Does anyone here own a 37mm overseas.. I wish it had the same layout as the 41mm. The 41mm is too big for me overall because of the way the watch rests. The 37mm might be too small. 7” wrists.

wish they made a 39 tbh. it would be

[RollinMoses]

Originally Posted by Scyb

Hi all,

Looking for a bit of advice from all the seasoned VC collectors out there.

I will be picking up a 4500v blue dial from the boutique in the coming week. Are there any tips on what freebies to ask them for? I heard they may have a belt?

Thanks in Advance

Even if too late, I am sure you will want some extra straps. When I picked up a couple of straps from the boutique (having bought the watch at an AD with a discount) the manager gifted me (unprompted) a nice travel case for straps. Holds four and is really useful.

In general the service I have received from the VC boutique has been outstanding. They sent flowers when I said we did not want to come in to see some lady's watch because we just had a baby and when we dropped in with our toddler they gave him a watchmaking bear, a VC kids book on the history of watchmaking that was translated into the local language and a colouring book. I had an issue with my watch that was repaired by their watchmaker and once ready, since it wasn’t convenient for me to come into the boutique, they said they would send a courier, but actually one of the SAs delivered the repaired watch and documents to me at home.

[djona]

Originally Posted by RollinMoses

Even if too late, I am sure you will want some extra straps. When I picked up a couple of straps from the boutique (having bought the watch at an AD with a discount) the manager gifted me (unprompted) a nice travel case for straps. Holds four and is really useful.

In general the service I have received from the VC boutique has been outstanding. They sent flowers when I said we did not want to come in to see some lady's watch because we just had a baby and when we dropped in with our toddler they gave him a watchmaking bear, a VC kids book on the history of watchmaking that was translated into the local language and a colouring book. I had an issue with my watch that was repaired by their watchmaker and once ready, since it wasn’t convenient for me to come into the boutique, they said they would send a courier, but actually one of the SAs delivered the repaired watch and documents to me at home.

Outstanding service.

[Scyb]

Originally Posted by RollinMoses

Even if too late, I am sure you will want some extra straps. When I picked up a couple of straps from the boutique (having bought the watch at an AD with a discount) the manager gifted me (unprompted) a nice travel case for straps. Holds four and is really useful.

In general the service I have received from the VC boutique has been outstanding. They sent flowers when I said we did not want to come in to see some lady's watch because we just had a baby and when we dropped in with our toddler they gave him a watchmaking bear, a VC kids book on the history of watchmaking that was translated into the local language and a colouring book. I had an issue with my watch that was repaired by their watchmaker and once ready, since it wasn’t convenient for me to come into the boutique, they said they would send a courier, but actually one of the SAs delivered the repaired watch and documents to me at home.

I bought the watch already but thank you anyway

Ended up with a complimentary San Pellegrino and that was it

Beautiful watch though and I haven't been able to stop wearing it. The blue dial is radiant, glimmering different shades of blue depending on the setting. Sometimes it almost feels like a black dial when I look at it with an acute angle.

Would a white rubber strap look good with a blue dial?

[Oaker1]

Originally Posted by Megalobyte

I honestly think the new OS wears smaller than 41mm suggests. And it’s fairly thin and light. I know blue is the obvious choice but the silver is very understated and really nice looking in person.



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Stunning!

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by Megalobyte

I honestly think the new OS wears smaller than 41mm suggests. And it’s fairly thin and light. I know blue is the obvious choice but the silver is very understated and really nice looking in person.



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Nah. The blue for this particular reference is a horrible looking blue especially compared to the blues from Patek, AP and Rolex. Silver for this reference is perfect. I’ve owned both and I got rid of the blue. Now as far as size goes it’s too freaking big. Just like the 15500. This reference would be much better off in 39mm. Or why not offer both sizes? Also I cannot believe this reference doesn’t hack. I realize that’s not important to some of the non WIS people but to me it’s very important. Still though I enjoy mine even though it looks big on my wrist. The strap change is brilliant and the bracelet is the best looking in its class in my opinion.

[NYG1121]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Nah. The blue for this particular reference is a horrible looking blue especially compared to the blues from Patek, AP and Rolex. Silver for this reference is perfect. I’ve owned both and I got rid of the blue. Now as far as size goes it’s too freaking big. Just like the 15500. This reference would be much better off in 39mm. Or why not offer both sizes? Also I cannot believe this reference doesn’t hack. I realize that’s not important to some of the non WIS people but to me it’s very important. Still though I enjoy mine even though it looks big on my wrist. The strap change is brilliant and the bracelet is the best looking in its class in my opinion.

I cant tell if you like or hate your watch?

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by NYG1121

I cant tell if you like or hate your watch?

Absolutely love it. One can criticize and still love something.

[RollinMoses]

Originally Posted by Scyb

I bought the watch already but thank you anyway

Ended up with a complimentary San Pellegrino and that was it

Beautiful watch though and I haven't been able to stop wearing it. The blue dial is radiant, glimmering different shades of blue depending on the setting. Sometimes it almost feels like a black dial when I look at it with an acute angle.

Would a white rubber strap look good with a blue dial?

Congratulations on the great pick up! You will struggle to get it off your wrist.

I haven’t seen the white rubber strap in person, but could be a great summer option.

I got the blue rubber for my silver dial and this light brown leather. I think on here I saw a blue dial with the same light brown leather strap and it looked good.

[raclaims]

I’m a big fan of VC
The service from the boutique is the best of any brand
The only watch that I ever change bands on is my overseas because it’s so absurdly easy to do
I have several and just ordered 3 more VC pieces

I hope more people recognize what a fantastic brand it is

[tapioca1688]

Originally Posted by raclaims

I’m a big fan of VC
The service from the boutique is the best of any brand
The only watch that I ever change bands on is my overseas because it’s so absurdly easy to do
I have several and just ordered 3 more VC pieces

I hope more people recognize what a fantastic brand it is

which 3 more VC pieces?

[gnuyork]

Originally Posted by Etschell

wish they made a 39 tbh. it would be

Agree, 39 would be perfect for the Overseas.

[gnuyork]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Nah. The blue for this particular reference is a horrible looking blue especially compared to the blues from Patek, AP and Rolex. Silver for this reference is perfect. I’ve owned both and I got rid of the blue. Now as far as size goes it’s too freaking big. Just like the 15500. This reference would be much better off in 39mm. Or why not offer both sizes? Also I cannot believe this reference doesn’t hack. I realize that’s not important to some of the non WIS people but to me it’s very important. Still though I enjoy mine even though it looks big on my wrist. The strap change is brilliant and the bracelet is the best looking in its class in my opinion.

Wow, Brett. I'm surprised. I have tried on the blue in person and found it to be spectacular. Best blue dial I have ever seen (yet). That being said, I would go for the black or silver all day long. I agree on the 39mm 100%, that size would be perfect for my wrist and yours as well (if I recall we have the same).

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by gnuyork

Wow, Brett. I'm surprised. I have tried on the blue in person and found it to be spectacular. Best blue dial I have ever seen (yet). That being said, I would go for the black or silver all day long. I agree on the 39mm 100%, that size would be perfect for my wrist and yours as well (if I recall we have the same).

Believe me I was bummed out about it. I bought the blue because blue is always best right? But after I wore it for a while this blue is just weird. It’s like VC tried to get cute with it. Anyway I sold it because of my disappointment but because of my love for this brand and especially this reference I finally found a silver dial. Absolutely love it. But definitely too big. For me anyway.

[_speedmaster_]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Believe me I was bummed out about it. I bought the blue because blue is always best right? But after I wore it for a while this blue is just weird. It’s like VC tried to get cute with it. Anyway I sold it because of my disappointment but because of my love for this brand and especially this reference I finally found a silver dial. Absolutely love it. But definitely too big. For me anyway.

+1. The blue isn't really my taste, a bit too oversaturated. I tried one on with the full intention of buying the brown dial a while ago, but it wore a bit too large for me. 39mm would be prefect.

[Secretariat]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Believe me I was bummed out about it. I bought the blue because blue is always best right? But after I wore it for a while this blue is just weird. It’s like VC tried to get cute with it. Anyway I sold it because of my disappointment but because of my love for this brand and especially this reference I finally found a silver dial. Absolutely love it. But definitely too big. For me anyway.

Originally Posted by _speedmaster_

+1. The blue isn't really my taste, a bit too oversaturated. I tried one on with the full intention of buying the brown dial a while ago, but it wore a bit too large for me. 39mm would be prefect.

Originally Posted by gnuyork

Agree, 39 would be perfect for the Overseas.

Do you guys feel that a the VC Overseas 4500v would look too big for a 6.5 Inches wrist?
Thanks.

[Fishrus]

Originally Posted by Secretariat

Do you guys feel that a the VC Overseas 4500v would look too big for a 6.5 Inches wrist?
Thanks.

Best to go to an ad or boutique to take a look. Personally i feel that it would be ok.

[Nightdate]

Originally Posted by Fishrus

Best to go to an ad or boutique to take a look. Personally i feel that it would be ok.

I guess it depends on personal choice but with 6.3/6.4 inches I do think it looks perfectly fine on me - good actually if I have to say so myself.

I also got a thread going when I was choosing with photos etc, you may find it useful (called 'overseas experience' or something on those lines) but at the end of the day, go and see it physically. Pictures are deceiving. It wears smaller than a 41mm I feel.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by Secretariat

Do you guys feel that a the VC Overseas 4500v would look too big for a 6.5 Inches wrist?
Thanks.

Here is mine on my 6.5” wrist. I think it looks too big but in my case I don’t care. It’s such an absolutely beautiful reference. This dial is perfect. Still though 38 or 39 mm would be much better overall because this is a dress watch in my opinion not a sports watch. If AP can make 37, 39 and 41mm then VC can do the same.

[JakeK]

Originally Posted by Secretariat

Do you guys feel that a the VC Overseas 4500v would look too big for a 6.5 Inches wrist?
Thanks.

See it in person to verify for sure as every wrist is different, but also check out Tim Mosso's video reviews on the watchbox YT channel. He puts the 4500v on his wrist and i believe his is about 6.5".