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22 August 2021, 12:16 AM | #31 | |
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Beautiful watch, regardless of its ticker
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22 August 2021, 12:21 AM | #33 |
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Automatic or Mechanical??
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22 August 2021, 12:37 AM | #34 | |
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There's also some really great (and INEXPENSIVE!) Bulovas. Has anyone else tried The Precisionist models? I have two. While not as refined and Rolex, the styling of my dive watch and insane accuracy are awesome! |
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22 August 2021, 01:02 AM | #35 |
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Many reasons to love mechanical watches but one I always associate with them is knowing that it is my impulse that keeps the watch moving. It creates a connection, a bond between myself and my timepiece. Maybe I am overthinking this but it is how it's been for me from the get go, over 30 years ago.
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22 August 2021, 03:16 AM | #37 |
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I'm actually beginning to wonder this myself. The solar powered quartz watches are intriguing to me. It's just the finishing leaves a lot to be desired. I really like the way my Rolex looks.
BUT... I got some some perspective on timekeeping the other day. Was at a museum with a friend and there was some exhibit with a clock in it. And my friend checked the time and said the exhibit clock was off. Her watch (quartz digital beater of some kind) was like a minute and half off. I held up my watch and it was spot on (I had just set it that morning). And she said, "Are you sure your watch is right?" And I said, "Yeah, it only gains a second or two a day." And she said, "That's not very good. I think I last set this watch a year and half ago!" |
22 August 2021, 09:04 AM | #38 | |
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22 August 2021, 09:12 AM | #39 |
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The word is Romance for the old
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22 August 2021, 09:17 AM | #40 |
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Could go either way on auto vs manual if the power reserve is decent but generally... I just like the engineering of mechanical watches. Even if battery or solar can be more accurate or last longer.
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22 August 2021, 09:47 AM | #42 |
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Love giving my manual wind its due every morning...
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22 August 2021, 09:47 AM | #43 |
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I appreciate quartz for its convenience and accuracy. However, the fact mechanical watches don't have disposable batteries makes them somehow more interesting and elaborate from a traditional engineering perspective. There's also a certain romantic element in the fact they need their owners to provide them with the nececessary energy to run. There's something to be said about objects capable of running without electricity, almost as if they had a life of their own. That illusion makes them magical in a sense.
With the arrival of Kinetic, Solar and Spring Drive, things get murky. No more disposable batteries. Kinetic and Spring drive need the movement of their owner's arm to run, just like mechanical, so it makes them more interesting to me from that perspective, as some kind of hybrid. Pallet and fork however have that traditional charm and purity, non corrupted, distorted or tampered by a printed circuit and electricity going through it. I can understand people preferring the convenience of not having to set the time and the benefit of higher accuracy, all this at a lower price. However, they're missing out on the charm and artistry of a mechanical movement, IMHO. |
22 August 2021, 09:56 AM | #44 |
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They're pretty! :)
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22 August 2021, 10:01 AM | #45 |
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I like a quartz watch...I've got a couple of Seikos still going strong after more than a couple of decades, and a Breitling Aerospace that's a great workhorse watch.
I also read news articles online, and sometimes even books... But, there's something about reading a book, or a magazine, holding it in one's hands, turning the page...it may be a paperback, or a leather bound hardcover. But, it gives a satisfaction different from an online read. Likewise, there's something about an old school mechanical watch, the knowledge of its hidden intricacy, the tactile appeal of winding it, the knowledge it depends only on motion (or a daily windup) to keep going, that it's the descendant of centuries of horological study...and, in the case of fine watches, that the mechanical movement is housed in a case worthy of it, that it is both aesthetically appealing, functional and efficient. It's a product of both human and machine labor, with plenty of skilled craftsmanship under the hood, to make it tick... For an analog chap like me, living in a digital world, I find plenty of appeal in things like "real" books and watches... |
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So I don’t have to take the watch in to replace the battery.
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22 August 2021, 10:39 AM | #48 |
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I don’t even cut my own grass, hang pictures, anything around the house. I wouldn’t even change a strap, so I am surely not going to open the caseback of a watch.
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Also, a neglected mechanical watch, no matter the age, has a chance in the hands of a skilled watchmaker of running again. My Datejust 1601 is 53 years old now, and Rolex Dallas returned it to me looking new and keeping chronometer time about 3 years ago now. It's still keeping chronometer time today. Try doing that with the oldest quartz watches, which are about the same age. I've watched a lot of watchmaker restoration videos on Youtube and have watched dozens of old mechanical watches brought back to life, and at least on a timegrapher run extremely well. Even cheap mechanical watches in the hands of a skilled person can run better than many new watches. I've also watched a few quartz watches brought back, but parts availability can be an issue and it's nearly impossible to fabricate say a circuit board. Often, they use a donor watch with other issues. That being said, high end quartz is a little different animal. I think Rolex still has parts for the Oysterquartz, and I'd lay money that Seiko will support the 9F for a very long time. After all, the sealed gear portion was designed with a 25 year service interval. I |
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That depends on the watch. I have a Baume & Mercier that has 6 very small screws that need to be remove to get to the battery. Last time I took it for a replacement at the mall the guy told me to come back in half hour. He needed to sharpen the screw drive and wanted to take his time to not scratch the watch. It was worth the wait. As a matter of fact it's been 3 years now the still running. I still prefer mechanical watches and always have since a child, amazed me that all these little parts working together kept time...
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22 August 2021, 10:55 AM | #52 |
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Just checked my Seiko Astron.
It sits in the cabinet and picks up some sun each day to keep the battery topped up. I did have to push two buttons to change the daylight saving setting but it has picked up the satellites and is spot on. Best watch of all IMO.
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good question
I find myself asking the same question lately since I've discovered the app Watchcheck. Tracking my favorite automatic watches can be a bit discouraging and not to mention a pia. Not sure if I have a good answer but it makes me feel special (god that sounds cheesy but it's hard to explain).
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I'm covered! Quartz accuracy?, not counting a Hyper accuracy Quartz like Longines HAQ or a grand Seiko, my 300M is more accurate. In 100 days and it's only +2 seconds. So 7 seconds a year is pretty good and I don't have to interrupt the time keeping to correct the date. My P.O. is following it's footsteps. Maybe by the time I need a service, the world will have recovered and after being on the waiting list for the last 10 years I will get the call.
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22 August 2021, 11:44 AM | #55 |
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In all honesty, if the quartz movement was of high quality as well as the case and bracelet, I would not have a issue with it. I still own a Tag Formula One quartz. I change the battery about every 2 years. And it just sits on my dresser mostly. I do wear it from time to time. After a year it's still within a minute or two. Not bad really and pretty trouble free.
But I absolutely love the feel of a quality automatic on my wrist. The thought of the engineering required to but together gears, springs and multiple materials to achieve such precision is just a marvel to appreciate each and every day. Brings a big smile on my face.
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22 August 2021, 11:52 AM | #56 |
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I can appreciate quartz and automatic, and have both. For me, changing a battery is much more of a pain in the ass than winding and setting a watch. i'm lazy, quartz will sit in the safe for months before the battery gets changed.
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22 August 2021, 12:15 PM | #58 |
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When the first affordable quartz watches came out, I swore I'd never own another mechanical watch.
Then, I bought an Invicta diver with an automatic movement (which now lays broken in a drawer or in a box somewhere) and I realized that the precision of quartz had made me an obsessive-compulsive for three decades. It was sub-clinical and it was fun, but it was also a relief to know that I could wear a watch that was off by a minute a day and be perfectly satisfied with it. Even when I wore my quartz watches, I set them every day. I could certainly do the same with a mechanical watch. Well, that led directly to my buying my first Rolex (114270). The rest has been well-documented on the various watch fora here on the intertubes.
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Bracelet, case, clasp, design/aesthetic are factors that are equally important to me. This is why I wear my automatic Rolex... because most other watches fall short in those other parameters.
In terms of movement, I think GS 9F quartz and GS spring drives are the cream-of-the-crop and top shelf movements in the entire market. Unfortunately GS falls short in bracelet, clasp, and case dimensions. |
22 August 2021, 03:51 PM | #60 |
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I prefer auto/wind watches because....
1) I've had a few quartz watches get ruined from the battery leaking acid..... 2) I'm an old school engineer and love tinkering anything mechanical.... 3) In these fast paced times of everything automated, it's good to reminisce of the good old days, slow down sometimes, enjoy being off-grid, without a care of this world for a few minutes..... |
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