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Old 21 July 2022, 02:59 PM   #31
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I don't know about the 15202, but the 16202 needs corporate approval.
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Old 21 July 2022, 04:57 PM   #32
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Oh really!

That's what my boutique tells me. I asked for a Jumbo next year and was expecting the green ROC this year. I got a call asking if I would be interested in getting the Jumbo this year instead. They said a client was turned down by corporate for the Jumbo allocation and the spot opened up. They said they would put in the request under my profile and let me know.
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Old 21 July 2022, 06:33 PM   #33
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the 16202 needs corporate approval.
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Old 21 July 2022, 07:12 PM   #34
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I don't know about the 15202, but the 16202 needs corporate approval.
Interesting - I asked this specific question to a boutique manager (at the other end of the world), and was told that allocations for the 16202 were approved by their regional office, while something like a CE openworked or Complication would need to go higher up in the chain. Also told me that anything 50th in Gold was not going to happen (but I could ask for a 50th 41mm RO/ROC in steel and they'd see).
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Old 21 July 2022, 07:49 PM   #35
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The jumbo needs corporate approval? Did the 15202st need corporate approval too?
Yes, it did.

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Great choice on the 16202, imo.
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Old 22 July 2022, 01:05 AM   #36
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Spoke to my boutique and they will submit me to corporate for the Jumbo. After giving it some thought, I think its the better choice. I was going to get a Jumbo next year anyways and probably will be better to be a 50th. Now the waiting game begins to see if they approve me for the piece. Thank you everyone for the input!

That's your lucky and kind face at work once again Micky
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Old 22 July 2022, 01:15 AM   #37
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Interesting - I asked this specific question to a boutique manager (at the other end of the world), and was told that allocations for the 16202 were approved by their regional office, while something like a CE openworked or Complication would need to go higher up in the chain. Also told me that anything 50th in Gold was not going to happen (but I could ask for a 50th 41mm RO/ROC in steel and they'd see).

I guess we're talking about the same thing. Corporate meaning AP North America or regional office like you're referring to. I'm not sure if it needs Switzerland sign off like my QP did though. All other than the likes of tourbillon, QP, openwroked are allocated at the boutique level like the 50th ROC.
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Old 22 July 2022, 01:18 AM   #38
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That's your lucky and kind face at work once again Micky

Lol, thanks. Stars seem to be lining up for me with AP this year for sure. Haven't been approved yet for the Jumbo, so not counting my chickens quite yet.
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I guess we're talking about the same thing. Corporate meaning AP North America or regional office like you're referring to.
Consistent then. 'Complications' may refer to things like the Openworked Grande Complication, and in hindsight I can't say if CE openworked was the 15416 or the CE openworked QP. None of those is of immediate concern for me
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Old 22 July 2022, 04:27 AM   #40
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Yes, it did.

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Great choice on the 16202, imo.
So corporate already knows me? The hell... why is it so hard for me to get a non corporate approved watch then???

Edit: when I continued reading I saw people are calling corporate as AP North America. When I say corporate I am talking Switzerland.
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Old 22 July 2022, 05:29 AM   #41
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So corporate already knows me? The hell... why is it so hard for me to get a non corporate approved watch then???

Edit: when I continued reading I saw people are calling corporate as AP North America. When I say corporate I am talking Switzerland.
AFAIK, Switzerland gets involved with openworked pieces such as the 15407, 15416CE, 26585CE, 16204, 26735ST, etc.

When we say corporate, it refers to the AP North America executives that make the decision here in the States. The 'higher ups' would then be Switzerland.
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Old 22 July 2022, 05:47 AM   #42
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So corporate already knows me? The hell... why is it so hard for me to get a non corporate approved watch then???

Edit: when I continued reading I saw people are calling corporate as AP North America. When I say corporate I am talking Switzerland.

It comes down to the relationship with your boutique at that point. They allocate all pieces outside of what needs corporate approval.


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AFAIK, Switzerland gets involved with openworked pieces such as the 15407, 15416CE, 26585CE, 16204, 26735ST, etc.

When we say corporate, it refers to the AP North America executives that make the decision here in the States. The 'higher ups' would then be Switzerland.

You can include perpetuals and tourby's into the group of pieces that need Switzerland sign off.
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You can include perpetuals and tourby's into the group of pieces that need Switzerland sign off.
Good to know, thanks.
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Old 22 July 2022, 08:44 AM   #44
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It comes down to the relationship with your boutique at that point. They allocate all pieces outside of what needs corporate approval.





You can include perpetuals and tourby's into the group of pieces that need Switzerland sign off.
Are you sure ? Because i got my tourbillon by pure chance.
Long story short, I walked in and said i need a special piece and don’t want to leave empty handed. Maybe they thought i was worthy
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Old 22 July 2022, 09:19 AM   #45
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Are you sure ? Because i got my tourbillon by pure chance.
Long story short, I walked in and said i need a special piece and don’t want to leave empty handed. Maybe they thought i was worthy
At a corporate owned boutique or AD? How long ago? Maybe different in different parts of the world, but that's the process here in the U.S. I'm told
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Old 22 July 2022, 10:00 AM   #46
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At a corporate owned boutique or AD? How long ago? Maybe different in different parts of the world, but that's the process here in the U.S. I'm told
Not in a corporate owned boutique.
Maybe that’s the case
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Old 22 July 2022, 10:17 AM   #47
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Not in a corporate owned boutique.
Maybe that’s the case
Yeah, at an AD I guess it was possible . With AP going corporate owned boutiques and doing away with the AD model, that'll be a rare occurrence. You got very lucky to have gotten a tourby just walking in.
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Old 22 July 2022, 10:44 AM   #48
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You can include perpetuals and tourby's into the group of pieces that need Switzerland sign off.


Idk....I'm told now the people who are getting good pieces are bribing sales people. I definitely don't have that kind of relationship with them.
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Idk....I'm told now the people who are getting good pieces are bribing sales people. I definitely don't have that kind of relationship with them.
Not the first time I've heard of it. Just terrible if true
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Long story short, I walked in and said i need a special piece and don’t want to leave empty handed.
I'll try that next time
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