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Old 13 September 2022, 11:27 AM   #31
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Why not tell the AD? Give them the ultimatum and if they don’t deliver, move on. The AD hasn’t delivered in YEARs, why wait around and why care about what they care or think, they obviously could not care less about keeping you as a customer.
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Old 13 September 2022, 11:33 AM   #32
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I would continue to push for the Daytona, and I wouldn't wear it around them when you go in. Best case they get you one and you can dump the one you bought. Worst case, you continue to enjoy the daytona you have.
Exactly this

I’m “supposedly” next in line for a watch or 2 that I already own. And 1 or 2 that I don’t. I damn sure don’t and won’t tell my A D “hey take me off because of blah blah”

Why not? In case they offer me a dial configuration I don’t have and may like more than what I have. If ever offered the same exact watch? I’ll cross that bridge if and when I get there. Not expecting any calls so there’s that.

Maybe they’ve found me on TRF and already know And if so oh well. At least I have what I want versus endless waiting
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Old 13 September 2022, 11:42 AM   #33
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No need to mention it. Wear the pieces you have purchased from that AD when you go in. That means more for them to see you enjoy (and keep) what they are selling you.
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Old 13 September 2022, 11:47 AM   #34
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Old 13 September 2022, 12:04 PM   #35
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bought my 1st Rolex on the aftermarket

If you can get what you want and can pay for it and are comfortable with the price being paid then buy what you want.

I told my 'SA' who has, to the point, serviced me with jack sh*t in product that I bought a GMT on the aftermarket, still expressed I would like to buy root beer and that if one came my way it would be awesome

At least they know I am serious and will definitely spend the money on what I want; so optimistic that one day "I will get THE call..." but until then I will buy what I want to buy if I see value in it and can pay the price that needs to be paid.
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Old 13 September 2022, 12:07 PM   #36
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Old 13 September 2022, 12:17 PM   #37
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you don't owe that AD/SA anything, its none of their business
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Old 13 September 2022, 12:54 PM   #38
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I see it as if they see you bought one on the grey market they’ll think less likely you would have flipped if they sold one to you.


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Old 13 September 2022, 07:01 PM   #39
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Wait for the new one from your AD and sell it……..
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Old 14 September 2022, 07:55 AM   #40
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I would continue to push for the Daytona, and I wouldn't wear it around them when you go in. Best case they get you one and you can dump the one you bought. Worst case, you continue to enjoy the daytona you have.
Sage advice. Life is too short to wait for something that may never happen. If the opportunity presents itself take it. Worse case scenario you have to flip a watch. Best case scenario, you're enjoying a watch.
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Old 14 September 2022, 07:56 AM   #41
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Wearing my grey market white dial to the store and buying a PM watch changed the dynamic for me.

Can you elaborate? Changed the dynamic how? Helped or hurt?


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Old 14 September 2022, 08:01 AM   #42
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If you can get what you want and can pay for it and are comfortable with the price being paid then buy what you want.



I told my 'SA' who has, to the point, serviced me with jack sh*t in product that I bought a GMT on the aftermarket, still expressed I would like to buy root beer and that if one came my way it would be awesome



At least they know I am serious and will definitely spend the money on what I want; so optimistic that one day "I will get THE call..." but until then I will buy what I want to buy if I see value in it and can pay the price that needs to be paid.
I don't think the AD has trouble finding "serious" people with money.

You can either charm them or buy a bunch of other stuff from them...and I don't mean a bunch of other SS Rolexes.

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Old 14 September 2022, 08:09 AM   #43
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I don't think the AD has trouble finding "serious" people with money.

You can either charm them or buy a bunch of other stuff from them...and I don't mean a bunch of other SS Rolexes.

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There are tire-kickers and there are tire-flippers, what's been communicated to me is that they take seriously those who are interested in the watches and intend to keep them (and the relationship going, once established).

The 3 ADs in my area, 2 of them are Rolex AD only (branded) & the 3rd is a watch store only which happens to be branded Rolex 'glassed off' section.

So from an incremental spend POV, except for the location that sells other brand's watches (of which, they too, have marginal if no stock) there is now incremental items I can buy.

So YMMV and the specific insight provided doesn't really bare weight in this scenario.
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Old 14 September 2022, 08:18 AM   #44
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My AD sells a lot of other brand watches. They sell Tudors, but not Omega, which are the two other brands that I own. They also sell JLCs. I've always been interested in them, but they're always too dressy and $$$ for me to pull the trigger. There isn't really any Tudor that I'm interested atm. They also sell diamonds/jewlery etc, but I'm really bad at picking things for my wife. Weirdly I took her with me to Omega boutique to buy my moonwatch and we walked out with a moonwatch and like $5k of earnings. I didn't even know Omega sells earnings! But the style of jewelry my AD sells are sort of old fashioned and my wife likes stuff from Cartier and Van Cleef & Arpels. But that's besides the point. Right now there isn't anything that I want to spend with my AD except a kermit at MSRP, so just kind of wait and chitchat is all that I can really do.
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Old 14 September 2022, 08:42 AM   #45
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I'm currently in this same scenario. Visited an AD for the first time last month expressing interest in a watch. On the off chance I visited a 2nd AD and they were able to deliver the watch in a weeks time. Last week AD #1 contacted me to inform me watch I requested arrived (which took them a little over a month to acquire). I politely stated I am allowing someone else have my allocation. I guess I shouldn't say why to AD #1 from the general consensus of this thread.
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Old 14 September 2022, 08:57 AM   #46
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I've learned this the hard way: Shut Up

Complete transparency isn't a good idea. If you're dating a lady, do you tell her about everyone else you're dating?
Depends on what kind of lady I think she is.
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Old 14 September 2022, 10:24 AM   #47
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Yes. Enter the confessional.

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I recently acquired a pre-own black Daytona in the grey market. I had mentioned my intention to do so to my SA as I feel there was almost no chance to get it through him given my purchase history. The way I asked was very transparent. I said basically that I was willing to wait for him to sell me a Daytona if it would be in a reasonable timeframe, i.e. some time in 2023. I told him that the prices in the grey market is decreasing to the range that I'm comfortable purchasing. And the end result, which I took it as a clear signal, was that he didn't put the watch down onto my list on his computer record. Because he usually adds it right in front of me when I ask for anything else or even just mention of a model that me and my wife might be interested in. So that tells me that I'm not going to get one via this AD.

Anyway, I think the prevailing advice is to not talk about it. And I think I will not bring it up unless my SA ask about it next time I see him in person. But if the topic comes up, I feel uneasy to lie or coverup the truth. I feel that it'll create some uneasiness or erode the relationship. And yes yes I know your SA is your friend only as far as being able to conduct business. Anyway I'd love to hear folks opinion and their experience.
Make sure you don’t fall for one of those sit in front of them confessionals...do it in the private room where they can’t see you...say 5 Hail Marys and you will be forgiven...go back into the world with a clean soul and heart.
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Old 14 September 2022, 08:00 PM   #48
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Old 14 September 2022, 09:44 PM   #49
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Any relationship is a two way street. At the point that the AD's are transparent with you then be transparent with them. Until then, mind your own business and keep your life and purchases to yourself. It is somewhat funny, but sad at the same time, that so many people think that the AD cares about you beyond that of a customer. I believe most are neutral on what they say and do but ultimately it is about business. Which is code for making money through sales. They can sell a SS Daytona anytime they have one and you have to believe that there are better established customers than you with bigger spend histories. I see so many young collectors hoping to be the one that gets the call on a special piece. It does happen but not frequently enough to think you will be the one. Buy your Daytona form a Trusted Seller, wear it when and where you choose, even to the AD. If the ask about it tell them you got it from another AD that is competition to them. The truth is not in them so why should it be in you. Good luck.
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Old 15 September 2022, 05:28 AM   #50
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let me get this straight, your SA clearly lied and misled you, but you're afraid to lie to him if he ever asks whether you bought that Daytona you've been pining for? i think we both know the answer... and no, unless you tell him, how will he know. Enjoy it for now and keep pushing for yours... he knows you've been waiting. if it comes, sell the grey one and enjoy the one with your name on it. you did nothing wrong.
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