Gmt master - why?

[waterking]

Originally Posted by Gilgamesh167

.....way prettier....

Define "way prettier" in the context of the watch marketplace and you will understand why folks like the GMT.

[Stan Cooper]

Personally, I find the GMT complication very useful for logging my ham radio contacts with other hams all over the world (we keep our logs in GMT) and flight planning as aviation weather forecasts, NOTAMS, TFRs, and flight plans are all in GMT.

My first Rolex was a 1675 GMT-Master decades ago, and my 16710 gets 95% of my wrist time.

[the_uptowner]

Originally Posted by JRell

I never liked the GMT. The GMT function I think is pointless for most, I get if you are a pilot. The large numbers, huge lugs, small dial, lack of AR coating, but I admit, I bought into the popularity. The BLNR was super comfortable, I didn’t notice the huge numbers as much as I thought I would, but the lack of AR coating, and more importantly the lugs got to me. I think if their next release moves away from the supercase, the numbers are smaller on the bezel, and add AR coating, I might be interested again. Depends on the color options.

+1

I liked BLRO a bit better though, but had very similar experience- and thoughts on ergonomics.

I realized i simply wont wear it daily - and that would be a waste for such a great watch as modern GMT is.


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[Gilgamesh167]

Originally Posted by ndane

Subjectivity is a thing lol

But yeah, to answer your question, I love my GMTs because:
I love the way they look
I Love the history
I Love the function. I actually use the GMT function a ton at my job. I have team members in IST, and although it doesn’t account for the half hour, I still use it to roughly tell what time is over there. I’ve gotten so used to looking at my watch to know what time it is in India that I don’t even think to use my phone to do it…




Concerning this statement, why get a watch at all since a phone can also tell local time?

well a watch today is mostly a jewelery piece..

[Gilgamesh167]

Originally Posted by ndane

You don’t understand that people can love a design that you don’t? I’m sorry, I don’t understand how you can not understand that…

of course I understand that ! but the gmt has an incredible hype around it and its probably the most desirable watch out there - so i am just trying to understand what brilliance there is to this watch that i might be missing

[Gilgamesh167]

Originally Posted by DG123

If the "prettier sports watch" could be purchased at MSRP but was worth significantly more than MSRP, people would "desire" that watch as much as they do a SS Rolex GMT.

but the desirability i am reffering to is not financial - this watch is also desirable for it looks - more so than the financial aspect - or so I think

[Gilgamesh167]

Originally Posted by Guppydriver

First off..

I feel tracking two time zones whilst traveling is actually easier with a GMT complication timepiece than with a phone. I don't have to open up my clock app, I simply glance at my wrist. Also, I work in a world where everything is based on UTC or Zulu time, knowing I can quick jump my local hour while being able to always track UTC time is my ideal tool watch.

Secondly...

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I don't know if you (OP) have ever handled 126710 BLRO on Jubilee or a PM CHNR, but they are stunning sport watches without the ubiquity of a divers timing bezel. Personally, I think the Pepsi Meteorite Bezel is one of the most gorgeous watches ever.

There's a reason why this complication has been absolutely on fire the last few years across multiple brands.

of course there is a reason for that ! thats why i wrote the post - i appreciate your reply - and the meteorite dial does look amazing - but why ruin in with childlike colors on a somewhat classy and mature watch?

[Gilgamesh167]

Originally Posted by nikhsub1

By that logic, no watch is ever needed since you got.... phones.

they really are not needed - and there is a better technological solution for ANY complication a watch might offer. today i feel its more a statement or a jewelery piece more than anything else.

[Gilgamesh167]

Originally Posted by rohada

They buy (or desire) them because they like them. What you don't like about them, others do. Regarding my Rolex GMT, I like the Pepsi bezel. I like how the Pepsi bezel sets itself a part from other watches in the offering. I like the face layout (which is found on a handful of other iconic Rolex watches, so the dial design appears to be working for them). I like the font on the bezel. I like the overall size and proportions of this watch. I like how it looks on my wrist. I like the functionality of the watch as I travel across timezones. I like how the 24 hour hand is done.

You're asking people to make an objective case about a purely subjective proposition, like "why do people like fill in the blank?" The heart wants what the heart wants. If you don't like it, then, I suppose, you weren't meant to. You don't like the GMT. I do. I don't think either of us is wrong. With respect to an endless supply of way prettier watches, my guess is that I would not like some of them and you explaining their appeal to me would be a waste of my time and yours (as I have probably done for you above). And, I think, that's OK. You buy watches you like and I'll buy watches I like. There's enough room for everyone. Enjoy.

you make a very good point - but i feel like the odd kid at school that just does not understand this incredible hype about it and I thought what am i missing here?

[Gilgamesh167]

interesting perspective

[DG123]

Originally Posted by Gilgamesh167

but the desirability i am reffering to is not financial - this watch is also desirable for it looks - more so than the financial aspect - or so I think

You say it's desirable for its looks. I say it's desirable because people feel good about paying MSRP for something that is worth significantly more money than MSRP.
In other words, if MSRP for a SS GMT was $10,000 and the resale market price for same was $6,000, not many people would find the watch attractive and, or desirable.

[jb335]

I love the movement. Jumping hour hand, backwards on date wheel etc.


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[Gilgamesh167]

Originally Posted by VictorGMT

Seek first to understand, then to be understood.

Imagine if a third of your first sixteen posts on a sports car forum were "I do not understand why someone buys a sports car. SUV is much more practical, and I think sedans are more attractive" over and over. It wouldn't really resolve much.

The GMT (coincidentally my first Rolex by overwhelming choice, due to the practical complication) is gorgeous and useful for travelers and for everyday use as explained above. Add in the fact that it's a signature Rolex model with an amazing history, and they do not seem to be difficult to sell.

that logic wont apply here since i am on a watch forum asking why a certain watch is more popular than others in the same category.. but i do see what you mean- however on the flip side you should also first seek to understand, that in fact i am trying to understand the appeal of a certain iconic piece that i simply dont like while every single watch guy does..

[springbar]

Originally Posted by Gilgamesh167

i am just trying to understand what brilliance there is to this watch that i might be missing

I don't believe you.

[Gilgamesh167]

Originally Posted by the_uptowner

to try to answer your question:

① may be, some people like the fact: that its a Rolex sportswatch, with a very (if not the most) useful in modern daily life stand-alone complication ? Many people think: "it fits my needs. its a useful watch to me. and its less common than for example a datejust or a sub". And here comes may be the second reason why people want it:

② Many know and want gmt, thats true. But do you see many around actually wearing it ? Rolex produces less gmts than, say, subs, therefore its harder to get them, waiting lists with ADs are longer - and people want it even more...

im just guessing you know.

i personally adore Rolex gmt, it is a fantastic watch, likely the best gmt / multi-time zones watch ive seem, may be i get one one day, but overall i prefer a bit different watch for my daily routine.

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intersting way to look at things however from my personal experience I actually have more people I know who have a GMT rather than a datejust or sub.. but maybe its just the circle I am in. but you do make an intersting point if in fact gmt is rarer

[Gilgamesh167]

Originally Posted by waterking

Define "way prettier" in the context of the watch marketplace and you will understand why folks like the GMT.

well for me personally - a watch is a jewelry piece - meaning it has to be somewhat an art piece- i find that the gmt colorings are usually very childish and not exciting or interestin in any way. The hands are aggressive and have a very "practical" sort of look - downgrading it to not being an art piece, at least not by my standars.. to me the gmt feels like the rolex version for a g shock in the way it looks. perhpas practical but without any beauty.

how would you define it in the context of the watch marketplace?

[Gilgamesh167]

Originally Posted by Stan Cooper

Personally, I find the GMT complication very useful for logging my ham radio contacts with other hams all over the world (we keep our logs in GMT) and flight planning as aviation weather forecasts, NOTAMS, TFRs, and flight plans are all in GMT.

My first Rolex was a 1675 GMT-Master decades ago, and my 16710 gets 95% of my wrist time.

that makes a lot of sense, since you use it proffesionaly - I was more interested in hearing the "design" side of things but thanks for your reply

[cdm765]

GMT is a reasonably useful complication and I find it sentimental as a reminder of loved ones at home when I travel. I also find it to be a reasonable proxy for a timing bezel given its 24 clicks (I realize this is imperfect...).

I also quite simply find the Rolex design and multicolor bezel to be quite captivating. I can take and wear my watch anywhere (including water) with no concern. I think the models from the 1950's and 60's are just as beautiful today, so I love the idea that this watch could have a useful life for my kids beyond my lifetime.

Hey - that's a lot of justification above, but also just buy whatever you like and you don't need to justify a damn thing to anyone else

[fsprow]

I think my wife is good looking. Others do too. You don’t. What’s to understand?

[the_uptowner]

Originally Posted by Gilgamesh167

intersting way to look at things however from my personal experience I actually have more people I know who have a GMT rather than a datejust or sub.. but maybe its just the circle I am in. but you do make an intersting point if in fact gmt is rarer

thanks for opening this thread with a good question! cool to see how many rolex fans it attracts to share their mind!


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[rohada]

Originally Posted by Gilgamesh167

and I thought what am i missing here?

I truly don't think you are missing anything. You just don't like the watch. That's your prerogative and, as such, it doesn't have to stand up to empirical data. I hear people go on about the Cartier Tank. I don't get it, because I simply don't like the looks and could never be swayed otherwise. But, a lot of people do. That's wonderful for Cartier and those who buy them. I wouldn't try too hard to understand why some people like a watch that you do not.

[second time]

The idea that watches aren’t necessary and just jewellery is bollocks. The wristwatch was invented primarily to free up one’s hands from the necessity of pulling out a pocket watch (or an iPhone). With a wristwatch the time is always available.

[the_uptowner]

Originally Posted by second time

The idea that watches aren’t necessary and just jewellery is bollocks. The wristwatch was invented primarily to free up one’s hands from the necessity of pulling out a pocket watch (or an iPhone). With a wristwatch the time is always available.

excellent point!


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[amh]

GMT has a useful complication. Some think it's also better looking.

'The Market' agrees, GMT sells for 1.7x MSRP while Sub sells for 1.4x MSRP.

[Calatrava r]

Why not. Rounds out a Rolex collection nicely. How many people need 300 m WR, GMT function or a chronograph function. People like the look for the most part on all of them. Why not, because there isn't much to dislike on any Rolex.

[Dufresne]

Originally Posted by Gilgamesh167

i asked why people LIKE them - not why they buy them..

No, you didn’t.


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[ColoradoTime]

Originally Posted by ndane

You don’t understand that people can love a design that you don’t? I’m sorry, I don’t understand how you can not understand that…

This!

So is the question why don’t people like what I like?

[Colorado_kid]

Of all complications other than a date, a gmt function is most useful to me.
- use it for work constantly (we work with people overseas so nice to know when their day starts/stops.
- we used to travel around the world for races. And knowing the time zones was great. (Now with kids we don’t do that as much!)

But, OP, if you don’t like them, don’t buy it if it’s not useful to you. Simple as that.


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[Buckaroo Banzai]

Why Not?

[NachoNeal]

Originally Posted by Gilgamesh167

they really are not needed - and there is a better technological solution for ANY complication a watch might offer. today i feel its more a statement or a jewelery piece more than anything else.

Easiest way for me to know the day, date or time is to just look at my wrist. Not my phone.