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Old 11 May 2023, 11:30 PM   #31
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Most AP customers are ok with paying $100k for a watch with no internal angles, so I don't foresee this being an issue lol


But really, industry exp doesn't matter much IMO. I have been CEO executing turnarounds in a few industries where I have no experience - all consumer though. For example, have done adult health and wellness, fashion, floral, musical instruments, etc!
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Old 12 May 2023, 03:03 AM   #32
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I hope they don't try to ramp up production or go the way of Vacheron and sell out to Richemont or LVMH. I think that would be brand suicide.
I think that would really dampen my enthusiasm with the brand.
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Old 12 May 2023, 06:05 AM   #33
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VC and ALS seem to be doing quite well under Richemont ownership. Both Richemont and LVMH know know to manage luxury brands so It wouldn't be negative for the brand, except in the eye of watch snobs.

I don’t think the last few years can be used as datapoints on how a brand was doing, everyone had record sales. The true test lies ahead imo.


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Old 12 May 2023, 05:42 PM   #34
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Most AP customers are ok with paying $100k for a watch with no internal angles, so I don't foresee this being an issue lol

High complications at AP don’t have internal angles, is that what you are saying?
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Old 12 May 2023, 06:44 PM   #35
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VC and ALS seem to be doing quite well under Richemont ownership. Both Richemont and LVMH know know to manage luxury brands so It wouldn't be negative for the brand, except in the eye of watch snobs.
Then there are IWC and Panerai... IWC were an interesting and very innovative brand in the late pre Richemont years under Blümlein. Now not so much as marketing has completely taken over. That said, they may be making a lot of money all the same.

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Agree.

AP seems more vulnerable than most in the next couple of years. They'd suffer in a broader downturn like everybody else and on top their core product line will likely become less fashionable again compared to the recent hype years.
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Old 12 May 2023, 10:28 PM   #36
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Most AP customers are ok with paying $100k for a watch with no internal angles, so I don't foresee this being an issue lol


But really, industry exp doesn't matter much IMO. I have been CEO executing turnarounds in a few industries where I have no experience - all consumer though. For example, have done adult health and wellness, fashion, floral, musical instruments, etc!
Can say the same about Patek no? Most angular they did was the caliber on 6119, which has pointy edges but that’s it.

I would even argue: most AP clients buy ROs that are built in a way that bastardizes the original monobloc architecture.
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Old 13 May 2023, 12:55 AM   #37
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Most AP customers are ok with paying $100k for a watch with no internal angles, so I don't foresee this being an issue lol
You mean when they buy stuff like this:
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