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Old 11 June 2023, 08:00 AM   #31
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Or, you could say it’s what killed the brand! So many great looking watches, but they all ended up, looking the same

Yes — I was being facetious on my “ unlimited limited editions” comment.


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Old 18 June 2023, 03:21 AM   #32
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Still more creative than Rolex adding a mm then removing it and calling it a new model.

But Rolex did more than 1mm on the new sub...they redesigned the lugs, added full AR coating on the bottom crystal, brand new movement with higher power reserve and this is how the prev gen should have been.....They basically self corrected a mistake they made with the prev gen and got it better.

Omega smp is literally the same with the same 80s non taperered bracelet and a dial color possibly copied from Seiko's newer releases (the gradiant blue). And those fugly skeleton hands.

And Omega has pretty much given up on the gmt segment together. Rolex is pretty much the king when it comes to gmt watches.

However, if Omega is now moving to thinner cases, I'd love to see the planet ocean get this new design ...I owned it and sold it as it's top heavy and 43mm case is just too big for a lot of people. I'd love to get a new PO in a 41mm thinner case with a lumed bezel. I love the bracelet on the PO vs smp line.
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Old 18 June 2023, 10:57 AM   #33
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But Rolex did more than 1mm on the new sub...they redesigned the lugs, added full AR coating on the bottom crystal, brand new movement with higher power reserve and this is how the prev gen should have been.....They basically self corrected a mistake they made with the prev gen and got it better.

Omega smp is literally the same with the same 80s non taperered bracelet and a dial color possibly copied from Seiko's newer releases (the gradiant blue). And those fugly skeleton hands.

And Omega has pretty much given up on the gmt segment together. Rolex is pretty much the king when it comes to gmt watches.

However, if Omega is now moving to thinner cases, I'd love to see the planet ocean get this new design ...I owned it and sold it as it's top heavy and 43mm case is just too big for a lot of people. I'd love to get a new PO in a 41mm thinner case with a lumed bezel. I love the bracelet on the PO vs smp line.

Some of this is subjective. The non-tapered bracelet and “fugly” skeleton hands are excellent to me and many others. I wouldn’t want to see them changed on the Diver 300. Possibly tweaked in some way, but not changed altogether.


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Old 18 June 2023, 12:15 PM   #34
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Tokyo 2020 in still my favorite 300m.

I like the ombre in the dial, but wish the date was omitted and the bracelet was tapered. It would be cool on the blue OEM rubber strap.
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Old 18 June 2023, 12:16 PM   #35
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Update - this watch is real and soon to be released. Not 41, it’s the standard size. Closed caseback
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Old 18 June 2023, 06:49 PM   #36
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But Rolex did more than 1mm on the new sub...they redesigned the lugs, added full AR coating on the bottom crystal, brand new movement with higher power reserve and this is how the prev gen should have been.....They basically self corrected a mistake they made with the prev gen and got it better.

Omega smp is literally the same with the same 80s non taperered bracelet and a dial color possibly copied from Seiko's newer releases (the gradiant blue). And those fugly skeleton hands.

And Omega has pretty much given up on the gmt segment together. Rolex is pretty much the king when it comes to gmt watches.


However, if Omega is now moving to thinner cases, I'd love to see the planet ocean get this new design ...I owned it and sold it as it's top heavy and 43mm case is just too big for a lot of people. I'd love to get a new PO in a 41mm thinner case with a lumed bezel. I love the bracelet on the PO vs smp line.
This..

The GMT thing. Omega just refuses to produce what people clamor for. It's almost like everyone wants to spend their money on Omega, but Omega doesn't want it. They just continue to invest in models nobody is asking for, the green worldtimer for example. (not saying it's not a cool watch). Tudor does the opposite, which is why they are gaining market share at such a rapid pace.

Seriously though, If Omega made a 300M GMT with no HEV and a more modern bracelet for about 6k retail, they would sell like absolute hotcakes.
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Old 18 June 2023, 08:14 PM   #37
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I guess there is something wrong with me. I will seek therapy this week and see why, perhaps something in my past, maybe my parents, cause me to really like the bracelet and skeleton hands on my 300M. The slide adjustment works so darn well too. Easier than the Glide on my SD43.
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Old 20 June 2023, 07:07 AM   #38
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Update - this watch is real and soon to be released. Not 41, it’s the standard size. Closed caseback
Um..that article clearly indicates its 41mm. But yeah..meh release...Seiko has been doing gradiant blue dials in their divers since last year so Omega is just jumping on.

Last year, it was all about green dials so I guess, for 2023/2024, it might be gradient blue.
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Old 20 June 2023, 11:19 AM   #39
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Um..that article clearly indicates its 41mm. But yeah..meh release...Seiko has been doing gradiant blue dials in their divers since last year so Omega is just jumping on.

Last year, it was all about green dials so I guess, for 2023/2024, it might be gradient blue.

The new Diver 300 is a 42mm. Just saw it today. Closed case back. Great looking dial.


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Old 21 June 2023, 07:33 AM   #40
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The new Diver 300 is a 42mm. Just saw it today. Closed case back. Great looking dial.


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say what now? Any more details?
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say what now? Any more details?

I posted this in another forum:

Well, got to see these and one more that I don’t think has been mentioned yet. Don’t wanna say where because they’re not supposed to be shown or sold until the 26th, but here’s what I know:

New Diver 300
Same dimensions as the current (42mm). Closed case back. The blue sort of fume dial looks stunning.

New Aqua Terra
This dial is lighter than the Diver 300 dial and will come on a baby blue rubber strap. It looks really cool, but I’d definitely get it on bracelet or change it to the black rubber AT strap.

New World Timer
Yes, another new World Timer. Steel case. Steel bezel. Dial color similar to AT and the same baby blue rubber strap.


There may be more coming, but this is what I know for a fact because I literally saw and tried these on today. Obviously I couldn’t take pics. Don’t know if there will also be more released, but those three at a minimum.
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Old 21 June 2023, 09:17 AM   #42
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I was really hoping those pics were fake. 3/4 century and they celebrate with a new dial color and a different case back?

That’s tremendously underwhelming. Maybe if they wait a few more decades non-tapered bracelets will come back into style? I had high hopes that I could finally buy a 300m finally, but no.

While it’s not hat I wanted to hear, I greatly appreciate the details, thank you.
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Old 21 June 2023, 09:31 AM   #43
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I was really hoping those pics were fake. 3/4 century and they celebrate with a new dial color and a different case back?

That’s tremendously underwhelming. Maybe if they wait a few more decades non-tapered bracelets will come back into style? I had high hopes that I could finally buy a 300m finally, but no.

While it’s not hat I wanted to hear, I greatly appreciate the details, thank you.

No problem. The watches were very nice. I am a bit torn. In this day and age I feel like we expect a lot from companies. On one hand Rolex is praised for making slow, minor tweaks and changes to their watches and it really helps maintain the overall design over decades of time for a lot of their models. On the other hand we seem to want something completely new, fresh, and innovative every year.

I don’t know. I guess part of me is happy that they aren’t doing much. I love the design of the Diver 300. I know some don’t like the HE valve, skeleton hands, and/or non-tapered bracelet. I like all of those things because it’s what makes the Diver 300 the Diver 300.

The new dials look really good, in my opinion. I’ll give them that. I prefer an open case back since it’s cool to see the movement.


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No problem. The watches were very nice. I am a bit torn. In this day and age I feel like we expect a lot from companies. On one hand Rolex is praised for making slow, minor tweaks and changes to their watches and it really helps maintain the overall design over decades of time for a lot of their models. On the other hand we seem to want something completely new, fresh, and innovative every year.

I don’t know. I guess part of me is happy that they aren’t doing much. I love the design of the Diver 300. I know some don’t like the HE valve, skeleton hands, and/or non-tapered bracelet. I like all of those things because it’s what makes the Diver 300 the Diver 300.

The new dials look really good, in my opinion. I’ll give them that. I prefer an open case back since it’s cool to see the movement.

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If the closed caseback thins out the watch, then I'd prefer the closed caseback. To me, most of the current Omegas are too thick.
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It’s 6300 usd, vs 5600 for the standard I think
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If the closed caseback thins out the watch, then I'd prefer the closed caseback. To me, most of the current Omegas are too thick.
Will this be as hard to get as the bond version? What are you hearing
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New Diver 300
Same dimensions as the current (42mm). Closed case back. The blue sort of fume dial looks stunning.
Doesn't it specifically state that it's a 41? Open or close case back doesn't matter much to me. The SMP isn't really a thick watch anyway, but if the closed back knocks another .5 - 1.0mm off the thickness I guess it's a good thing. If not, I'd rather keep it a display case back.
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Doesn't it specifically state that it's a 41? Open or close case back doesn't matter much to me. The SMP isn't really a thick watch anyway, but if the closed back knocks another .5 - 1.0mm off the thickness I guess it's a good thing. If not, I'd rather keep it a display case back.

It does say 41. When I saw it in person it looked identical to the current version and the SA stated the dimensions were the same. If they somehow squeezed a mm off of there and he just didn’t notice it, well then I didn’t either. I’m pretty sure it is 42 but now y’all have me second guessing. Guess we will know for certain in about 5 days.


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Going down to 41MM would be a great addition IF (and this is a big IF) they learned to taper the bracelet. They have been tapering everything else. I like the bracelet design, just needs to be slimmed down. I would imagine that making case slightly smaller would mean lug width is less, etc.
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Going down to 41MM would be a great addition IF (and this is a big IF) they learned to taper the bracelet. They have been tapering everything else. I like the bracelet design, just needs to be slimmed down. I would imagine that making case slightly smaller would mean lug width is less, etc.
Unlikely. All the previous models before the 2018 update of SMP were 41mm with 20mm lug spacing. The main difference between the current model and all previous models is thickness. If they can get it back to how it was (and maybe tone down the bright white bezel marker numbers) it would be a big win.

The bracelet is fine how it is (apart from the pivoted end links making it sit weird on a normal size wrist), it would look strange with a taper. They just need to offer the flat link as an option if people want a tapered bracelet.
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Gradient dial is one of the worst trend.
Omega is sticking with their non taping bracelet.

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SMP Diver 300M is a great watch. I love mine in blue and wear it frequently. Although, I do still prefer the form factor of my 41mm Sub. It's just a little more refined wrt to size (case, bracelet, etc).

The SMP 75th anniversary above, looks decent. But, not too far from the existing....at least not enough to warrant me wanting one.


My asks for any new SMP (75th anniversary or other) would be the following:
- Thinner case (maybe 1mm less, to make the watch a little less chunky)
- Slight bracelet taper (not a deal breaker for me, but would improve comfort and add a little more elegance)
- HEV - Smaller or removal (I forget the HEV is even there on my existing SMP when wearing, but it's still something Omega could improve upon)
- Less subtle waves on dial (love the laser-engraved wave dial, but wish they were a little closer to the older versions)

If given the option, I'd prefer a 41mm (vs 42mm), but either works.

Lastly, I've got no major qualms with the bracelet (like many others have), but I do want to get the OEM blue rubber strap w/ deployant. Just hate forking over $500+ for both in total. :/
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I was told it would be announced June 26th
June 27 now according to Omega's IG. So one additional day.
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I guess there is something wrong with me. I will seek therapy this week and see why, perhaps something in my past, maybe my parents, cause me to really like the bracelet and skeleton hands on my 300M. The slide adjustment works so darn well too. Easier than the Glide on my SD43.
I hereby join you. I am an unabashed defender of the bracelet. It is comfortable, articulates beautifully, has a terrific extension system, and pairs perfectly with a magic case architecture that has a fairly small portion of the underside that is flat before it curves downward. And, I really like the way it looks….there are too many bracelets copying the oyster or speedmaster in this world.

The bracelet and case are marvels that make Seamasters some of my favourites in my watch box.
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Can't wait until it's officially unveiled on the 27th! I've always been a huge fan of those case backs for the Seamaster line.
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Can't wait until it's officially unveiled on the 27th! I've always been a huge fan of those case backs for the Seamaster line.
Me too…I like the venice connection. It is nice on my speedy.But so far on the rumors, I am underwhelmed. I really expected something smashing from their back catalogue…maybe a 2250-ish release. My only serious complaint with the 300M is the poor lume quality. thanks to the limited real estate of the skeleton hands, which I personally like aesthetically. A sword hand release would fix this.

I am interested in any 300 heritage release, as they seem to be doing the whole line. I’ve always been a tire kicker for that watch….
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