Incoming Taupe ROO

[rockdrock]

Beautiful watch and the best ROO in the collection. I adore it too. I loved your story and congrats on your anniversary. Wishing you a lot of wrist time, best of health, and more love and anniversaries. Cheers!

[ajw99]

Congrats! People who have them really seem to love them and are posting them here... So what's one more...? Enjoy!


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[Regalio]

Congrats on your acquisition

[KBM]

Love this piece, congrats all around for the watch and anniversary!

Now, after all, is the dial brown or grey?!

[Token74]

Really really love this. Had my name down for a very long time now. I will either get the call or I won’t, but certainly hope that I do.

Congrats


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[crispyness87]

Originally Posted by Token74

Really really love this. Had my name down for a very long time now. I will either get the call or I won’t, but certainly hope that I do.

Congrats


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Look, I love buying from the boutique, and all of my APs are direct from boutique. But honestly at this point, with where the Taupe ROOs are priced at in the market (discount to retail), it would be logical to consider the grey market if the boutique is making you wait longer.

But yeah it’s a killer watch. Gets the most wrist time for sure.


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[Token74]

Originally Posted by crispyness87

Look, I love buying from the boutique, and all of my APs are direct from boutique. But honestly at this point, with where the Taupe ROOs are priced at in the market (discount to retail), it would be logical to consider the grey market if the boutique is making you wait longer.

But yeah it’s a killer watch. Gets the most wrist time for sure.


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Agree, and when I go to AP House that’s exactly what I’m going to say. I’ve always preferred to buy AD regardless of pricing, but if I’m too far down the list I’d rather they just said, so i will ask them to be honest with me. And no problem with that by the way, I’m not a big-hitter and ultimately they only make so many watches per year, so i completely get it.


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[crispyness87]

Originally Posted by Token74

Agree, and when I go to AP House that’s exactly what I’m going to say. I’ve always preferred to buy AD regardless of pricing, but if I’m too far down the list I’d rather they just said, so i will ask them to be honest with me. And no problem with that by the way, I’m not a big-hitter and ultimately they only make so many watches per year, so i completely get it.


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In one of my previous posts, I did talk about intending to have a come-to-Jesus convo with my SA on the Taupe ROO. Had been waiting for just over a year at that point.

The watch ended up coming quickly, and I got it at retail price (a bit over market price by that time).


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[Token74]

Originally Posted by crispyness87

In one of my previous posts, I did talk about intending to have a come-to-Jesus convo with my SA on the Taupe ROO. Had been waiting for just over a year at that point.

The watch ended up coming quickly, and I got it at retail price (a bit over market price by that time).


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[CactusTreeFiddy]

Yes this should get allocated to you within 6 months

[cotway]

^Any of you contemplate between the Taupe and the Grey/Blue Titanium 43? The Taupe looks amazing in all
Of the pictures. Any big difference in weight between the Ti and Steel models?


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[golfer_john]

Originally Posted by cotway

^Any of you contemplate between the Taupe and the Grey/Blue Titanium 43? The Taupe looks amazing in all
Of the pictures. Any big difference in weight between the Ti and Steel models?

Both are very attractive. What sets the taupe apart from the grey/blue is the dial. It’s just amazing in all kinds of light. I started off thinking I wanted grey/blue but did a 180 once I saw the taupe in person. Taupe is SS and definitely has some heft but I think that’s a positive for a ROO.

Really can’t wrong with either and I’d love to be able to justify both, but it’s taupe for me if you have to choose.

[dmash]

To me, I think there are two clear cut choices if going after a ROO43 (aesthetic wise).

-Taupe- it’s a killer piece, but to me, it was a bit too military-esque to vibe with my style.

Or

-Black- this has Motorsport vibes with the red accents, even more so when paired with the red strap like I have it on.

Either of these two are absolute stunners in person. The other models just simply seemed average to me. But everyone is different!

[Armis]

Originally Posted by dmash

To me, I think there are two clear cut choices if going after a ROO43 (aesthetic wise).

-Taupe- it’s a killer piece, but to me, it was a bit too military-esque to vibe with my style.

Or

-Black- this has Motorsport vibes with the red accents, even more so when paired with the red strap like I have it on.

Either of these two are absolute stunners in person. The other models just simply seemed average to me. But everyone is different!

That’s an interesting characterization of the taupe ROO as being “military-esque”…I never saw it like that, but now that you mention it I think I can see it. Are you referring to a Desert Storm sort of style?

The black with red accents is also a great characterization, especially with the red strap.

[dmash]

Originally Posted by Armis

That’s an interesting characterization of the taupe ROO as being “military-esque”…I never saw it like that, but now that you mention it I think I can see it. Are you referring to a Desert Storm sort of style?

The black with red accents is also a great characterization, especially with the red strap.

Yeah I tend to over analyze things a lot, especially when it comes to design and aesthetics haha. Exactly what I mean on the military-type aesthetic of the taupe. It has borderline camouflage tendencies and to me, vibes with a 'harsher' clothing aesthetic such as that.

Yeah, the red strap RO with the red accents on dial SCREAMS motorsport in my opinion. I thought it was an obvious choice, seeing a Chrono function ties into that beautifully.

[usmc_k9_vet]

Originally Posted by dmash

Yeah I tend to over analyze things a lot, especially when it comes to design and aesthetics haha. Exactly what I mean on the military-type aesthetic of the taupe. It has borderline camouflage tendencies and to me, vibes with a 'harsher' clothing aesthetic such as that.

Yeah, the red strap RO with the red accents on dial SCREAMS motorsport in my opinion. I thought it was an obvious choice, seeing a Chrono function ties into that beautifully.

That looks excellent.


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[Rockland]

Originally Posted by crispyness87

Look, I love buying from the boutique, and all of my APs are direct from boutique. But honestly at this point, with where the Taupe ROOs are priced at in the market (discount to retail), it would be logical to consider the grey market if the boutique is making you wait longer.

But yeah it’s a killer watch. Gets the most wrist time for sure.


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I don’t see the Taupe priced at a discount to retail. I see new ones in the middle to upper 40’s? Where can it be bought for a discount? Would still prefer to buy it from boutique regardless to build the relationship.

[CactusTreeFiddy]

Originally Posted by Rockland

I don’t see the Taupe priced at a discount to retail. I see new ones in the middle to upper 40’s? Where can it be bought for a discount? Would still prefer to buy it from boutique regardless to build the relationship.

I've seen at least 2 go for distinctly under 40k. Retail is 42k plus tax, some people are looking at 46k all in, so the discount to be had is significant right now

[crispyness87]

Originally Posted by Rockland

I don’t see the Taupe priced at a discount to retail. I see new ones in the middle to upper 40’s? Where can it be bought for a discount? Would still prefer to buy it from boutique regardless to build the relationship.

Where I’m at, it is incontrovertible that the taupes are at 10-15% discount to retail.

[Commandopat]

Originally Posted by crispyness87

Where I’m at, it is incontrovertible that the taupes are at 10-15% discount to retail.

Where are you located?

[crispyness87]

Originally Posted by Commandopat

Where are you located?

SG/HK


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[dmash]

Originally Posted by CactusTreeFiddy

I've seen at least 2 go for distinctly under 40k. Retail is 42k plus tax, some people are looking at 46k all in, so the discount to be had is significant right now

I’m all for guys getting the best deal, but 15% off boutique price (if you don’t pay use/sales tax yourself on the purchase, whereas then it’s more like a 6-8% discount) for a lightly used/mint example is not a ‘significant’ discount. Sure it’s thousands and under retail, but put it into percentages.

[CactusTreeFiddy]

Originally Posted by dmash

I’m all for guys getting the best deal, but 15% off boutique price (if you don’t pay use/sales tax yourself on the purchase, whereas then it’s more like a 6-8% discount) for a lightly used/mint example is not a ‘significant’ discount. Sure it’s thousands and under retail, but put it into percentages.

1) I don't think anybody cares about getting a non-mint ROO, compared to a RO

2) Market indicators and recent trends suggest grey market prices are only going to get better for buyers

The only way the grey market markdown won't continue to become more pronounced, is if AP stalls on retail price hikes

[Bpan]

Originally Posted by CactusTreeFiddy

1) I don't think anybody cares about getting a non-mint ROO, compared to a RO

2) Market indicators and recent trends suggest grey market prices are only going to get better for buyers

The only way the grey market markdown won't continue to become more pronounced, is if AP stalls on retail price hikes

Well they hiked prices last Sept 1st and Mar 1st this year, let's see if they continue with their biannual price increase in 2 weeks

[dmash]

Originally Posted by CactusTreeFiddy

1) I don't think anybody cares about getting a non-mint ROO, compared to a RO

2) Market indicators and recent trends suggest grey market prices are only going to get better for buyers

The only way the grey market markdown won't continue to become more pronounced, is if AP stalls on retail price hikes

We were discussing about now, in present day, you stating there is a 'significant' discount to be had. Now you're going another direction with assumptions on future market action, which is strictly speculation. Furthermore, I can tell you with 100% certainty that the *vast* majority of watch buyers most certainly do care about new vs. used (especially in high horology). To state nobody cares whether a watch is new vs non-mint is borderline ridiculous.

Back to your original statement, I'm simply pointing out that ~10-15% off retail price for a used vs new piece is expected and entirely normal, and not a significant discount. When the ROO43 is trading under $30k we can say it's become a 'significant' discount.

Additionally, as a counterpoint to your 'grey market prices only getting better', a lot of the data you're probably looking at doesn't apply to a model like the ROO. It's ALREADY under MSRP. I'm fully in agreement that overinflated, over MSRP watches like Rolex GMT, Nautilus, RO etc, will continue a downward trajectory. Watches like the ROO which have already reached parity with MSRP or slightly below....have either already reached a floor or will reach it much sooner than other models. You're comparing apples to oranges, it's not the same (my opinion).

Just keeping the facts flowing around here

*In all honesty though, this is another guy's incoming post, so we should be keeping things positive here and have this discussion elsewhere. Feel free to take it over to the 'market pricing' thread and I'm happy to further discuss.

[CactusTreeFiddy]

Originally Posted by dmash

We were discussing about now, in present day, you stating there is a 'significant' discount to be had. Now you're going another direction with assumptions on future market action, which is strictly speculation. Furthermore, I can tell you with 100% certainty that the *vast* majority of watch buyers most certainly do care about new vs. used (especially in high horology). To state nobody cares whether a watch is new vs non-mint is borderline ridiculous.

Back to your original statement, I'm simply pointing out that ~10-15% off retail price for a used vs new piece is expected and entirely normal, and not a significant discount. When the ROO43 is trading under $30k we can say it's become a 'significant' discount.

Additionally, as a counterpoint to your 'grey market prices only getting better', a lot of the data you're probably looking at doesn't apply to a model like the ROO. It's ALREADY under MSRP. I'm fully in agreement that overinflated, over MSRP watches like Rolex GMT, Nautilus, RO etc, will continue a downward trajectory. Watches like the ROO which have already reached parity with MSRP or slightly below....have either already reached a floor or will reach it much sooner than other models. You're comparing apples to oranges, it's not the same (my opinion).

Just keeping the facts flowing around here

*In all honesty though, this is another guy's incoming post, so we should be keeping things positive here and have this discussion elsewhere. Feel free to take it over to the 'market pricing' thread and I'm happy to further discuss.

Didn't realize I hit a nerve, don't take this stuff too seriously friend :)

Complaining about something I say as "strictly speculation", then saying you "can tell you with 100% certainty that the *vast* majority of watch buyers..." is pretty damn funny, and not much more than that

You also say youre "Just keeping the facts flowing around here", even though you literally stated things are just "in your opinion" a sentence before that

I'm sure you understand, there's literally no way I'm gonna take you seriously. That one's a fact

[dmash]

Originally Posted by CactusTreeFiddy

Didn't realize I hit a nerve, don't take this stuff too seriously friend :)

Complaining about something I say as "strictly speculation", then saying you "can tell you with 100% certainty that the *vast* majority of watch buyers..." is pretty damn funny, and not much more than that

You also say youre "Just keeping the facts flowing around here", even though you literally stated things are just "in your opinion" a sentence before that

I'm sure you understand, there's literally no way I'm gonna take you seriously. That one's a fact

Sigh, you just don’t get it.

Anyhow, this is a senseless back and forth. And again, this is on somebody's incoming post and is not in good behavior. Somebody just purchased a new watch and you're dragging down the post in a way by talking about how he could buy it cheaper elsewhere. Let's agree to disagree and conclude this. Cheers

[loupe]

It’s a sunny day in Scotland so thought I’d take a few pics of my Taupe

[Commandopat]

Originally Posted by loupe

It’s a sunny day in Scotland so thought I’d take a few pics of my Taupe

Stunning!

[neal.jy]

Originally Posted by loupe

It’s a sunny day in Scotland so thought I’d take a few pics of my Taupe

Fantastic pictures, love the macro shot.. thank you for sharing!


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