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Old 11 July 2023, 11:03 AM   #31
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I’ve posted this before, but again here:

White vs. Black

All below are just my opinions.

Shared attributes:
- very comfortable to wear
- fit a wide range of wrist sizes
- work for men and women
- the venerable 4130 movement is a mechanical marvel, so perfect since inception that it has gone essentially unchanged since 2000. This movement broke ground with many firsts for Rolex.
- world’s best bracelet and clasp
- thin case
- robust and waterproof
- wears small but with commanding presence
- extremely well protected by cerachrome bezel, crowns and crown guards

Black dial (m116500ln-0002) attributes:

- first thing that jumps out at you is the way the concentric silver subdial rings spread the light spectrum, sometimes looking light blue, pink, green, gold, brown, purple … only those who have worn one will understand this phenomenon.
- beautiful gloss black dial
- sometimes appears larger in size than the white because the dial seems extended by the matching glossy black bezel
- more dressy and formal
- silver subdials accentuate and compliment the 904L steel case, making the dial more cohesive with the overall watch.
- suitable as an everyday every occasion watch, absolutely perfect with a tuxedo or suit, yet seems perfectly fine with jeans and a tee shirt, transforming itself into casual
- red Daytona text stands out less, but glimpses are more satisfying when you catch them
- definitely will get noticed LESS than the white dial, which can be a very good thing at certain times, occasions and locations
- in low light, the Rolex WG Crown stands out equally on both black and white dials, but in bright light, the WG stands out a LOT more on the black dial, making the watch appear more balanced and symmetrical.
- appliqué hour markers stand out more in all lighting conditions on the black dial
- chronograph (large) seconds hand easier to see and track on black dial
- if you can only own one watch and it’s a Daytona, get the black for its complete versatility

White dial m116500ln-0001 attributes:

- the black dial version is just a black dial Daytona, but the white dial gets a nickname and notoriety of being the “Panda” Daytona
- higher contrast with stark shifts from silver to black to white to black to white again. Incredibly striking!
- Panda-esk dial harkens memories of early four-digit Daytonas, which many find makes this reference more collectible
- black subdial rings bring best attribute of the white dial Zenith models into the modern day
- black subdial rings improve readability over the silver subdial rings of the white dial 116520
- black cerachrome bezel frames perfectly the white dial, making it stand out among nearly every other watch in public settings
- recognition: everyone will know what you are wearing (not always a good thing)
- white dial is mesmerizing as it sits somewhere in between being matte and gloss … as you more your wrist around the white dial takes on both properties.
- red Daytona text above the 6 o’clock subdial stands out more against the white
- the black minute and second markers at the outer edge of the dial stand out more, making it seem more like a tool watch
- chronograph (large) seconds hand harder to see and track on white dial … I wish Rolex had blackened (or painted red) the seconds hand on the white dial variant
- subdials hands easier to read against the black rings with white centers
- the five lines of text above the hand stack stands out more on the white dial. I wish it just said Rolex … next line Cosmograph … next line Daytona in red, but Rolex knows what they are doing
- The white dial is the one to have if your other Rolex watches are primarily black dial, giving you more color variety. It’s also the one to have to be recognized as having THE MOST HARD TO GET ROLEX on the planet (at least of the high production models).

The white (we all know) is generally more in demand, so it commands a greater (~$3k-5k) price on the secondary market, but to me that only furthers the value advantage to the black dial. You can’t go wrong with either.

Which one will have better long term value? I’d be guessing to say white, but honestly do not care.

For those who are lucky enough to own one or both, take the time to really drink in the beauty, quality and engineering prowess represented therein.




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fantastic post @SSOyster

+1 agee totally with the above

I own both as well. But if i had to chose just one....it'd be white
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Old 11 July 2023, 11:54 AM   #32
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The black dial is so much cooler that I can’t believe the white dial is more popular.
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Old 12 July 2023, 01:10 AM   #33
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Ideally for those that own or have handled both. Trying to get nuances that might not necessarily come out in photos. Which one do you prefer?

Both are stunning. But as many have said, the white looks better in pictures and the black looks better in real life.

I’m always a black dial over white kinda guy.




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Old 12 July 2023, 07:11 AM   #34
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I have both. I prefer the black, it's just more classic Rolex to me.

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Old 12 July 2023, 12:31 PM   #35
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Fwiw, I prefer the white so that's the one I was fortunate enough to be offered a few years back. I think it makes this particular model a lot more striking. Black is quintessential so it makes for a much more classic/conservative look, so it really depends how much one wants it to pop. There's really no wrong choice here.

I also like the fact that one can be more playful with the white one ... not only does it make for a lovely dress watch but it can also be a fun summer sports watch, at least that's how I wear mine. :)


I think the black can be a fun summer sports watch on a white RubberB too




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Old 12 July 2023, 02:11 PM   #36
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I would describe the black dial as elegant, the white dial as sporty. Of course there’s some subjective crossover there too.
Nailed it
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Old 12 July 2023, 07:51 PM   #37
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I had and wore both, the White dial looks great in pictures but it was always the Black dial that popped more in practically all lighting conditions and ultimately was more pleasure/interesting to wear, sold the White therefore with no regrets, due to the herd following hype around the White I got far more too, so a win, win.
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Old 14 July 2023, 07:54 AM   #38
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Black I find is very difficult to read in low light even with glasses. Still a beauty
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Old 14 July 2023, 09:38 AM   #39
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Both are stunning. But as many have said, the white looks better in pictures and the black looks better in real life.

I’m always a black dial over white kinda guy.




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Your watch roll looks great!!
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Old 14 July 2023, 11:55 AM   #40
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Your watch roll looks great!!

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No one ever notices the black dial Daytona, which I like.








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