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Old 21 July 2023, 01:52 AM   #31
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Why is everyone so convinced this is going to be so rare. Rolex doesn't even call it a limited edition. I bet they sell more of them in a year than a platinum Daytona, although what do I know?
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Old 21 July 2023, 02:32 AM   #32
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Wow wow wow. Lucky and you must be a VIP with loads of spend history. Congratulations enjoy it in good health!

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Old 21 July 2023, 02:37 AM   #33
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thanks for sharing the photo. Never would i get one of these @ MSRP.
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Old 21 July 2023, 02:38 AM   #34
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Why is everyone so convinced this is going to be so rare. Rolex doesn't even call it a limited edition. I bet they sell more of them in a year than a platinum Daytona, although what do I know?

I hope so! I want one!


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Old 21 July 2023, 02:44 AM   #35
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Thanks for sharing the photo.
I hope it plays out like the 50th Anniversary Submariner
Still produced twenty years on
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Old 21 July 2023, 02:52 AM   #36
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Why is everyone so convinced this is going to be so rare. Rolex doesn't even call it a limited edition. I bet they sell more of them in a year than a platinum Daytona, although what do I know?
I absolutely think this is possible (and maybe it's my hope).
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Old 21 July 2023, 02:57 AM   #37
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I am not a Daytona guy
Have owned a few and always say why did I do this again and sell it.
This is one I would love to get the call for and would be a total keeper!
I like this much more than the Plat (I just don't like the blue for a Daytona (but love it on the DD) and I do not like the brown BUT I will say the new dial balances it much better)
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Old 21 July 2023, 03:23 AM   #38
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Old 21 July 2023, 03:34 AM   #39
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This is just fabulous - Thank you for posting the pics. I agree this is more "retro" than I had thought it would be. Alas, I'd be more than happy if this was the last watch my AD ever sold to me!!

I think the biggest issue here isn't going to be pure production numbers - Rolex will produce plenty, just like they do with every watch they make. The issue is going to be that many ADs walk this out the back door or have an arranged secondary market sale. I see very few of these getting into the hands of actual collectors, and that's going to make it all the more exclusive and elusive.
Agree. AD owners will probably keep a few for themselves so I think very few will be sold to customers at retail.
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Old 21 July 2023, 03:47 AM   #40
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I'm not taking the bait on who is a collector versus who is not, and I'm not going to argue the pros and cons of the secondary market as we all have our own opinions. Sorry if my choice of words is confusing, but my point is I feel few of these will land in the hands of collectors at MSRP. The financial reward is going to be far too great to pass up and many ADs will get these placed out on the secondary market. At that point, as you suggest, it's every crypto-bro, collector, Instagrammer, watch aficionado...whoever/whatever...for themselves!

The $175 to $200k range seems to be frequently discussed as the market value of this one. I think that's way too low. If you are a Daytona fan, THIS is it. Add all the Rolex lore and hype and there's no reason this isn't $350k+ just like you see for some of the crazy APs and Patek models that are exclusive.
This watch is nice, better looking than expected and at MSRP I like it. But IMO one would have to be an absolute loon to pay $350k for this instead of a nice 4 digit Daytona.
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I'm not taking the bait on who is a collector versus who is not, and I'm not going to argue the pros and cons of the secondary market as we all have our own opinions. Sorry if my choice of words is confusing, but my point is I feel few of these will land in the hands of collectors at MSRP. The financial reward is going to be far too great to pass up and many ADs will get these placed out on the secondary market. At that point, as you suggest, it's every crypto-bro, collector, Instagrammer, watch aficionado...whoever/whatever...for themselves!

The $175 to $200k range seems to be frequently discussed as the market value of this one. I think that's way too low. If you are a Daytona fan, THIS is it. Add all the Rolex lore and hype and there's no reason this isn't $350k+ just like you see for some of the crazy APs and Patek models that are exclusive.

I would agree with you on this, at least at my AD who is a large AD and the only one in the State. They have three locations, and I would suspect that they see at least one of these.

Based on my conversations with the manager, who I have known for twenty years, regarding what they consider the spend to get a SS Daytona at MSRP, I would guess that they would offer this piece to the customer with the largest spend history. From conversations with him on this I am guessing a minimum of a half-million dollars and maybe even more to get one at MSRP. And believe me, watch spend doesn't count.... it's diamonds and other high-end jewelry, and they have the clients that fit into this category.

It isn't something I would even get the opportunity to see. Even though I have spent $75 - $100K on watches in the last few years, I am chicken-shit to them and are basically a waste of time to them.
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Old 21 July 2023, 04:26 AM   #42
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It’s a gorgeous watch. I think I slightly prefer the Platona aesthetically though.

At retail though, I’m taking the Le Mans and saving 30k+


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Old 21 July 2023, 04:31 AM   #43
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Why is everyone so convinced this is going to be so rare. Rolex doesn't even call it a limited edition. I bet they sell more of them in a year than a platinum Daytona, although what do I know?

I called my AD, a high volume Boutique, and the store Director told me not to get hopes up as each store is only getting one and it’s been allocated.


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Old 21 July 2023, 04:33 AM   #44
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Old 21 July 2023, 04:40 AM   #45
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What do you think the weight difference between this (18k) and the Platona is?? It might be worth considering as weight was a factor for some of our members owning their Platona.

This is almost like worrying about how you’re going to pay your taxes when you win the mega lottery but fun to discuss.
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Old 21 July 2023, 04:56 AM   #46
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What do you think the weight difference between this (18k) and the Platona is?? It might be worth considering as weight was a factor for some of our members owning their Platona.

This is almost like worrying about how you’re going to pay your taxes when you win the mega lottery but fun to discuss.
I thought the weight difference between gold and platinum Daytonas was around 100 grams. TBH, I wear my platinum watch every day all day (except when exercising) and it is never too heavy. I only notice the weight when I pick it up or first put it on. I weigh around 160, FWIW. I can't imagine the weight being bothersome to anyone. Has anyone ever sold a platinum watch because it was just too heavy? Or is it just those who try it on and aren't used to the weight that think it would be problematic or uncomfortable? I'm not trying to talk anyone into it. It just seems like something someone would say who never wore one for more than 10 minutes. And I know YOU aren't saying it's too heavy. You're just asking the weight differential question...
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Old 21 July 2023, 05:00 AM   #47
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I thought the weight difference between gold and platinum Daytonas was around 100 grams. TBH, I wear my platinum watch every day all day (except when exercising) and it is never too heavy. I only notice the weight when I pick it up or first put it on. I weigh around 160, FWIW. I can't imagine the weight being bothersome to anyone. Has anyone ever sold a platinum watch because it was just too heavy? Or is it just those who try it on and aren't used to the weight that think it would be problematic or uncomfortable? I'm not trying to talk anyone into it. It just seems like something someone would say who never wore one for more than 10 minutes. And I know YOU aren't saying it's too heavy. You're just asking the weight differential question...

I do recall recently reading on here that a member sold a Platona due to the weight bothering them.

I don’t own Platinum but I regularly wear full gold and I love the weight. I can only imagine I’d like the heavier PT even more.


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I thought the weight difference between gold and platinum Daytonas was around 100 grams. TBH, I wear my platinum watch every day all day (except when exercising) and it is never too heavy. I only notice the weight when I pick it up or first put it on. I weigh around 160, FWIW. I can't imagine the weight being bothersome to anyone. Has anyone ever sold a platinum watch because it was just too heavy? Or is it just those who try it on and aren't used to the weight that think it would be problematic or uncomfortable? I'm not trying to talk anyone into it. It just seems like something someone would say who never wore one for more than 10 minutes. And I know YOU aren't saying it's too heavy. You're just asking the weight differential question...
Actually we just had a member just sell their Platona and mentioning the weight was bothersome after a while. That’s why I brought up the weight difference.
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Old 21 July 2023, 05:07 AM   #50
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How is it that you read on here that ADs can no longer order watches, that they don't know what's coming in until they open the package or maybe get an invoice a couple of days before watches arrive? Yet somehow, they all know how many (few) of these they are going to get? Seems fishy to me.

I think the watch is beautiful, although it's weird to me that Rolex would make such a throwback to an earlier design. But I think if there weren't rumors of how scarce these watches would be, TRF would spend most of its time discussing how Rolex is charging a $10k premium vs. other WG Daytonas, mainly because it's got a throwback dial on it. And a dot of red on the bezel.
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Old 21 July 2023, 05:09 AM   #51
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A beautiful watch that will in far too many cases probably end up as a "safe queen" in plastic wrap. What a shame.

I would love to see a dial like that on a stainless steel model. And a real panda.

Rolex can't keep us waiting forever...
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Old 21 July 2023, 05:11 AM   #52
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How is it that you read on here that ADs can no longer order watches, that they don't know what's coming in until they open the package or maybe get an invoice a couple of days before watches arrive? Yet somehow, they all know how many (few) of these they are going to get? Seems fishy to me.

Because many people here talk in black and white and don’t realize how much more nuance there is and the same rules don’t apply to all models or all customers. And not everything in their little corner of the world or at their AD applies to everyone/everywhere….and we are all full of you know what


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I don’t know how to feel about this. It doesn’t look as nice as I would have hoped. Of course I’m on my AD’s list and of course I don’t “expect” a call soon, but I thought it would pop more… looking at it now doesn’t provoke any excitement over my 116500. I buy to keep, never flip, so the monetary “insta-gain” is almost moot…

Realize the plastic wrap isn’t helping the look. The black dial 116500 is gorgeous in person and doesn’t casually photograph as well as it looks (using careful photography it is photographs beautifully as my picture in the gallery demonstrates). Now I think this Le Mans is in a similar category…???
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Old 21 July 2023, 05:35 AM   #54
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I am sorry, but you are being fed a line by your AD. This has NEVER been the case with any Rolex model and I would bet anything and everything that this is just a way for them to kindly get the conversation changed to a new topic. The reality is AD's don't want to talk about the LeMans because they aren't going to be able to fill .001% of the demand and it's out of their hands (mostly). So, no sense talking about something that is just going to lead to frustration or confusion for 99.5% of the customer base.

Nobody knows anything about this watch, but I promise you it's not "1 per AD" because that's just simply not how things have ever worked at Rolex.

History says that they will produce plenty of them, and the real scarcity will be availability at MSRP. It's going to be available on the secondary at an unfathomable amount of money that will make us all question humanity. A select very lucky few will get one at MSRP.

The only controversial thing to me will be...Is this the model where Rolex makes a real attempt to get it in the hands of customers that truly desire the watch as part of their Rolex collection/brand loyalty. I would love for this to be the case, but I am not holding my breath.
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I would have bought it. I have a black dial 116500 Daytona that I love. This one would keep the aesthetic subtle with the satisfying heft of gold.
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I am sorry, but you are being fed a line by your AD. This has NEVER been the case with any Rolex model and I would bet anything and everything that this is just a way for them to kindly get the conversation changed to a new topic. The reality is AD's don't want to talk about the LeMans because they aren't going to be able to fill .001% of the demand and it's out of their hands (mostly). So, no sense talking about something that is just going to lead to frustration or confusion for 99.5% of the customer base.

Nobody knows anything about this watch, but I promise you it's not "1 per AD" because that's just simply not how things have ever worked at Rolex.

History says that they will produce plenty of them, and the real scarcity will be availability at MSRP. It's going to be available on the secondary at an unfathomable amount of money that will make us all question humanity. A select very lucky few will get one at MSRP.

The only controversial thing to me will be...Is this the model where Rolex makes a real attempt to get it in the hands of customers that truly desire the watch as part of their Rolex collection/brand loyalty. I would love for this to be the case, but I am not holding my breath.

Well said.
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Great addition to your collection, congrats.

I wonder when I'll see one in the wild.
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How is it that you read on here that ADs can no longer order watches, that they don't know what's coming in until they open the package or maybe get an invoice a couple of days before watches arrive? Yet somehow, they all know how many (few) of these they are going to get? Seems fishy to me.

I think the watch is beautiful, although it's weird to me that Rolex would make such a throwback to an earlier design. But I think if there weren't rumors of how scarce these watches would be, TRF would spend most of its time discussing how Rolex is charging a $10k premium vs. other WG Daytonas, mainly because it's got a throwback dial on it. And a dot of red on the bezel.
This is a great point. When you ask them they have no idea when your watch is coming in. But then they give an answer like this, no way
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