Did your watch come with stickers from trusted seller BNIB?

[Rico_Brasole]

Originally Posted by codecow

I have two Patek watches I bought, took home in the box, and then put them right in the bank vault. They’re older than that by a lot and both in unworn condition.

People who buy a lot of watches have a lot of watches and we don’t wear all of them.

Ahhh yes something I guess I didn’t consider. Lots and lots of people buying for investment purposes. Good point


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[Rico_Brasole]

Originally Posted by Romeojk

Thanks Rico for your perspective. I’ll keep it in my mind going forward. I do trust the seller and will look at it carefully but I expect it will all be good


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Welcome! Enjoy the watch! I couldn’t tell if it was for your daughter or if it was delivered to her for you.


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[Romeojk]

Originally Posted by 1William

Strong response and not my experience with our big Trusted Sellers. If a watch is advertised as unworn, it is just that. The only thing the Trusted Sellers have is their reputation to sell watches. With over 100 deals with our Trusted Sellers over the years, I do not doubt them. Anything can happen but typically not. Stickers have been remove from AD's for a while and while you on occasion you will see a watch stickered it is not typical. You should not have an issue with your daughters watch. Just check it out.

Thanks William, I’ll check it out close

Originally Posted by KatGirl

It is my understanding that a grey dealer gets his brand new stock out the back door, of a disreputable AD, who should not be selling to him. In most cases, the stickers will have been removed. He then resells the watch to one of us. It remains brand new and unworn, until one of us purchases it. I, personally, consider that a brand new, unworn wrist watch, that has simply been passed through several hands. I have seen watches advertised as fully stickered, but that’s the exception, not the rule. Having recently purchased a watch, from an AD, I never saw the stickers. They had been removed, before the watch was presented to me, and before sizing. So, to say the only way to buy a “new” watch, is from an AD, is misleading.
OP, if you bought from one of our trusted sellers, and were told the watch is brand new/unworn, trust that it is! Congrats to your daughter!

Kat


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Thanks Kat! She is excited!

Originally Posted by Mystro

AD’s remove stickers now out of policy. This started in the last 3 years.

Thanks Mystro!

Originally Posted by codecow

I have two Patek watches I bought, took home in the box, and then put them right in the bank vault. They’re older than that by a lot and both in unworn condition.



People who buy a lot of watches have a lot of watches and we don’t wear all of them.

Thanks codecow, something to think about. The card date is July 2023

Originally Posted by Sglider

I cruised by the classified last night, the guys with the seven bumps, maybe they could try lowering the advertised price.

I am starting to get a little more comfortable with buying grey, somewhat, for a premium to end the quest,

but I don't think I have any intent in reaching out to someone for a negotiation on something that is $4-5000 over watch even Watch Charts is showing as reasonable.

Thanks Sglider, this one is less than 10% over retail, not a heavy sought after one

Originally Posted by drrd

It’s about “new” or not and if you buy grey then you’re the third owner minimum. That’s not new.



It may appear unworn but truly unworn (whatever that means) seems optimistic at best.



Not knocking grey, I just interpret new as like-new and unworn as appears unworn. Not so punchy I guess, that’s why I’m not in sales.

Thanks rd, not in sales either myself, this one hasn’t been around too long so I think I’m good.

Originally Posted by Cowps

I got mine from an AD fully stickered

That is probably best, just not as convenient

Originally Posted by padi56

Do you wear the sticky-back plastic or the watch if its the watch and watch is in good condition thats the main, and not bits of plastic that are fit only for the waste bin.

You are right Peter, she will be wearing the watch, thanks for bringing me back!

Originally Posted by Kevinbaz

In the last 9 years in UK any a Rolex I purchased new from AD did not come with stickers.
Kev

Thanks Kev!


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[Romeojk]

Originally Posted by Tools

Stickers don't authenticate a watch. Buying from a reseller and you will likely get the watch the way they got it, they don't usually put stickers back on.

Thanks Larry!

Originally Posted by Divingdeep87

My AD removes all the stickers except the one on the caseback and then he always forget the one with the red on it inside the clasp. lol

Thanks Divingdeep!


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[drrd]

Originally Posted by KatGirl

The way you look at it, if I buy new, from AD, I am already the 3rd owner, since AD buys the watch from Rolex, then I buy it from him.

Kat


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And the courier ;)

Trust has been mentioned a few times in this thread.

I completely trust Rolex and the AD. Usually the AD unboxes from the transport coffin and unstickers the watch right there at the time of purchase.

I don’t completely trust traders and private buyers. I don’t even know how many people have ‘owned’ a piece that ends up with a reseller I’m potentially purchasing from. I don’t know how the watch has been handled. I don’t know if I’m going to get a surprise when the watch finally visits a RSC.

I understand grey is the only option for some. I’m not saying I wouldn’t buy used. I just value new more highly than used.

[Nico81]

Originally Posted by Rico_Brasole

Trusted or not it’s probably best to assume the watch is not “new”. A new watch comes directly from the AD to your wrist.

Trusted Sellers are getting desperate as sells are slowing. They’ll polish anything up and advertise it as new to get a sell.

Case in point- a forum favorite has a BLNR from 2019 listed as “unworn condition”. So you’re saying that this thing has been in the wild since 2019 and hasn’t collected a hairline scratch or a ding? Yeah right. The watch was polished to unworn condition and advertised as such bc the snake oil salesman know we prefer mint.

Don’t trust the greys when it comes to new watches. It’s only new if you buy directly from AD. Otherwise you’re paying over retail for a used watch.


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You are accusing without knowing what you’re talking about
Yes there are bad apples thats why “trusted “ badge is not given easily. They got 1000s of happy customers and transactions

NOS watches are not uncommon
I have a 2012 unworn fully stickered 14060m
Yes its new and unworn and I know because i bought it new and stored it


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[Calatrava r]

I am late to the party, and much has already been said. All Rolex watches first go to ADs, (at least in the US). They are obliged to remove all stickers before the watch leaves the store. If one of their watches ends up on the secondary market with the stickers intact and Rolex finds out it will be an issue for the AD with Rolex. This was not the case a few years back and "good" customers could buy watches with the stickers on so they could perform the celebrational sticker removal at a later time or just re-sell the watch that way for more money. It is rare now for a stickered watch to show up but like anything else they do despite the policy.

As for the comments on "unworn" in the used watch market. Rarely, is that the case. Obviously, it scales down from someone somewhere at least having tried it on, all the way to removing a few hairlines on the clasp and elsewhere to make it look unworn. It is very unlikely any watch from 2019 is unworn, except a factory sealed watch in its original uncut seal wrapping like a Patek comes in.
The Rolex coffins are just taped and easily resealed.

[Nico81]

Originally Posted by KatGirl

It is my understanding that a grey dealer gets his brand new stock out the back door, of a disreputable AD, who should not be selling to him. In most cases, the stickers will have been removed. He then resells the watch to one of us. It remains brand new and unworn, until one of us purchases it. I, personally, consider that a brand new, unworn wrist watch, that has simply been passed through several hands. I have seen watches advertised as fully stickered, but that’s the exception, not the rule. Having recently purchased a watch, from an AD, I never saw the stickers. They had been removed, before the watch was presented to me, and before sizing. So, to say the only way to buy a “new” watch, is from an AD, is misleading.
OP, if you bought from one of our trusted sellers, and were told the watch is brand new/unworn, trust that it is! Congrats to your daughter!

Kat


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Your understanding is wrong.
Grey’s get their stock from flippers mainly.


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[Rico_Brasole]

Originally Posted by Nico81

You are accusing without knowing what you’re talking about
Yes there are bad apples thats why “trusted “ badge is not given easily. They got 1000s of happy customers and transactions

NOS watches are not uncommon
I have a 2012 unworn fully stickered 14060m
Yes its new and unworn and I know because i bought it new and stored it


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Nice !

I already admitted to not accounting for those who buy watches for investments 🫶


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[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by Nico81

Your understanding is wrong.
Grey’s get their stock from flippers mainly.


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Maybe. I am going, by my own experience, having purchased several dozen brand new Omegas, from a grey market dealer, who bought them directly, from an Omega AD. All were BNIB, and fully stickered.

Kat


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[Old Geezer]

AD's remove the stickers now and have for a few years. A secondary market sourced watch may be unworn or claimed to be unworn but it's still a "used" watch that someone purchased from the AD and traded or sold to the grey dealer. Inspect it very closely if you expect a watch in true BNIB condition.

[Solo118]

Nope past few watches they removed it, no big deal to me as I watched them do it and they were super careful

[Nico81]

Originally Posted by Rico_Brasole

Nice !

I already admitted to not accounting for those who buy watches for investments 🫶


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Watches are not investments.
Where did you get thr idea I bought it for investment?

Occasionally, on Fridays, I like to visit my beauties at bank of america safe deposit box.. say hello to them, try them on


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[OG1982]

The BLNR in my avatar pic came from Watchfinder with a full set of stickers in 2021.

From my understanding that is a rarity.


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[Rico_Brasole]

Originally Posted by Nico81

Occasionally, on Fridays, I like to visit my beauties at bank of america safe deposit box.. say hello to them, try them on


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I do the same with my investments. I go to the beach house every Friday for the weekend. Say hello, throw a party, and repeat next Friday .

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[Romeojk]

Inspected with a magnifying glass. Beautiful and pristine. Time for my daughter to get some scratches of her own. I was happy to be able to facilitate this for her and she is super happy.





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[KatGirl]

Great news! Cool to see that I’m not the only woman with a set of Watch tools.

Kat


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[worldofoyster]

no sticker is the norm

[Harry-57]

My AD removes stickers at point of purchase. If someone was to sell a watch originally supplied by my AD it would not be stickered.

I have bought two Rolex from the secondary market. Both were fully stickered.

[Carguy87]

Congrats looks awesome!!

[Polyesterpig]

My AD removed most of the stickers when they sold me my 40mm slate Yacht-master. I think there were 2 left. All hang tags and white tag, but no outer box sleeve or bezel protector.