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Old 6 November 2023, 01:42 AM   #31
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I got more pictures in better lighting, bezel and paint numerals all look perfect, no paint off anything etc. Well, only one way to find out as watch is being delivered

Of a watch. Maybe not the one you're getting. Good luck!
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Old 6 November 2023, 02:31 AM   #32
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Is this a normal 2021 warranty card?

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I got more pictures in better lighting, bezel and paint numerals all look perfect, no paint off anything etc. Well, only one way to find out as watch is being delivered
Can you share these photos?
You already bought this watch, right?
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Old 6 November 2023, 02:55 AM   #33
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I’m sure it’s fine but those sub dials look yuuuge. A bit off


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Old 6 November 2023, 04:00 AM   #34
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Can you share these photos?
You already bought this watch, right?
Yes, have ordered it, waiting for delivery next week.

One of these pics. Bezel looks quite alright imo. I mean, who would keep their fake watch on watch winder with other fake Rolexes, right?

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Old 6 November 2023, 04:03 AM   #35
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I’m sure it’s fine but those sub dials look yuuuge. A bit off


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Hmm, maybe because pic is very zoomed in and appears so. I compared to other legit dials, I don't see any difference, but then again I don't claim to be a watch expert, maybe I'm missing something you guys pick up.
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Old 6 November 2023, 04:07 AM   #36
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Yes, have ordered it, waiting for delivery next week.

One of these pics. Bezel looks quite alright imo. I mean, who would keep their fake watch on watch winder with other fake Rolexes, right?


Based on this pic, I think you’re fine. Can’t wait to see a wrist shot, after it arrives.

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Old 6 November 2023, 04:10 AM   #37
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Thank you Kat, I hope so :D 100% will share the wrist shot and whether it turned out to be genuine or fake watch haha.
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Old 6 November 2023, 04:43 AM   #38
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Hmm, maybe because pic is very zoomed in and appears so. I compared to other legit dials, I don't see any difference, but then again I don't claim to be a watch expert, maybe I'm missing something you guys pick up.

You’re probably right.


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Old 14 November 2023, 10:43 AM   #39
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Alright, so watch is received, watch itself looks superb! BUT I have some concerns wanted to consult with you.

1) Panda should have 12+1 ez link on bracelet? I am counting 11 + 1 ez link. So 1 link is missing?
2) Warranty card looks like this. Top part is peeling off and it's visible from the other side there was an actual purchaser name written previously and watch is obviously not manufactured in 2020 as advertised since purchase date is May 2019. Cause for concern? What to make out of this? Big red flag or..?

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Old 14 November 2023, 11:29 AM   #40
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Is it just the photo or does the crown doesn't look right. I'm comparing to mine and the hole on the bottom looks too big.


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Old 14 November 2023, 07:43 PM   #41
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Is it just the photo or does the crown doesn't look right. I'm comparing to mine and the hole on the bottom looks too big.


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It's not just you. There are a lot of issues.

The watch presented by OP is a $900 Chinese clone. I suspect OP knows this and should be banned for testing his fake watch.
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Old 15 November 2023, 12:13 AM   #42
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Planning on buying a 2020 Daytona, wanted to ask is this warranty card looking fine or it's cause for concern? No name, couple of X's instead.

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Card is geniune, Karnig is the only official Rolex AD in Jordan. The X writing is to hide the name as some have said, it seems this watch was bought for the intent to be sold in the secondary market, because even in 2020 , the watch commanded a high premium and was sold around $ 20k.

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I just saw the the second picture and it does look strange, have inspected the watch if it is authentic? Did the serial number on the card matches the one on the watch ? you can contact the AD in Jordan and ask for explanation? if the watch was purchaes in May in 2019 it means you have less warranty left
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Old 15 November 2023, 04:28 AM   #43
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Need more good photos and macro shots. And maybe the biggest clue is going to be, how much did OP pay for this watch?
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Old 15 November 2023, 04:54 AM   #44
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Based on this pic, I think you’re fine. Can’t wait to see a wrist shot, after it arrives.

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The watch on the winder is not the one in the other images
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I would be worried about (among other things) the misaligned hand on the bottom subdial. The chrono is set to zero, but the hand is not at zero. Red flag...
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Need more good photos and macro shots. And maybe the biggest clue is going to be, how much did OP pay for this watch?
There are so many red flags in the pictures posted.

Hour markers and the hands look off, and this on the links
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Is this a normal 2021 warranty card?

Here's some irony on this thread. I took the following pic to share here and found a dial print error that has my Daytona at RSC for a dial replacement.

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Old 15 November 2023, 06:14 AM   #48
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I would be worried about (among other things) the misaligned hand on the bottom subdial. The chrono is set to zero, but the hand is not at zero. Red flag...

The bottom dial is the seconds hand which is independent of the Chrono hands. There's a number of other issues of course.
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Card is geniune, Karnig is the only official Rolex AD in Jordan. The X writing is to hide the name as some have said, it seems this watch was bought for the intent to be sold in the secondary market, because even in 2020 , the watch commanded a high premium and was sold around $ 20k.

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I took the watch to a Rolex service center today, it turns out there are many issues and is not quite authentic. Needless to say, I almost fainted hearing from them it's a franken watch... They said that many parts are original, but so many of them are not. Bracelet - original, dial as well. Serial number on card and case matched. Why would someone go through all this trouble mixing genuine parts with fake ones Thankfully i still have time to return the watch and preparing all evidence for seller, he seems to be shocked and apologizes but very open to accept return, any chance he didn't know?
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There are so many red flags in the pictures posted.

Hour markers and the hands look off, and this on the links
Haha i noticed that too but it turned out to be very bad reflection, not the case in real life, all good there
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Need more good photos and macro shots. And maybe the biggest clue is going to be, how much did OP pay for this watch?
$28k, preparing better photos now!
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Old 15 November 2023, 07:13 AM   #52
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As someone mentioned, chrono hand indeed not dead in the center. One of the red flags.






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Old 15 November 2023, 07:17 AM   #53
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I took the watch to a Rolex service center today, it turns out there are many issues and is not quite authentic. Needless to say, I almost fainted hearing from them it's a franken watch... They said that many parts are original, but so many of them are not. Bracelet - original, dial as well. Serial number on card and case matched. Why would someone go through all this trouble mixing genuine parts with fake ones Thankfully i still have time to return the watch and preparing all evidence for seller, he seems to be shocked and apologizes but very open to accept return, any chance he didn't know?

Well, this is awful, for you! So, how do you make sure you get your money back? Was it a private sale, or through a sales site, that is guaranteed?

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Old 15 November 2023, 07:31 AM   #54
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Well, this is awful, for you! So, how do you make sure you get your money back? Was it a private sale, or through a sales site, that is guaranteed?

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Kat, thanks for your compassion! Yes, it was a private sale through C24, payment currently in escrow account. Gladly seller is not causing more stress at this point and is open that i return it and only asks that i send him statement from the watch service place and pictures.
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Old 15 November 2023, 08:38 AM   #55
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As someone mentioned, chrono hand indeed not dead in the center. One of the red flags.
That's actually completely normal.
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