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7 December 2023, 04:49 AM | #31 |
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If folks are liquidating their FPJ collections, I'd imagine they will be more inclined to speak after they sell everything. It seems like nothing definitive or specific has been shared yet. So far, more hearsay and speculation.
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7 December 2023, 04:55 AM | #32 | |
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7 December 2023, 06:37 AM | #33 |
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I have never met FPJ but I don't suspect we would hit it off him being a wealthy senior citizen Frenchie and me a 30 something middle class American who can't speak any other languages. Putting a bunch of watch collectors in various social settings with FPJ seems like a foolish endeavor because for him it is work and for them it is disguised as play.
I do not expect artists to have social skills. They almost unanimously don't if they are any good. Eccentric genius who over indulges on his rise to prominence could very well describe a litany of the best artists in history. His brand is literally called "he invented it and made it" anyone who had any illusions that he was Max Busser is a fool. He is more in the vein of Elon than Zuck, more Jobs than Cook. He was described as a rebellious child and was expelled from watchmaking school despite being one of the best watchmakers in his class. This is who FPJ is. This isn't some out of the blue character change.
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7 December 2023, 08:08 AM | #35 |
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Albert at European Watch was a big supporter early on. As for whatever might or might not have happened during a conversation no one has any clue word for word what it was, or the inflections and situation when it was supposedly made....
Here's what I heard.... My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw FPJ enjoying a drink with friends. I think it's kinda serious. :)
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7 December 2023, 09:17 AM | #37 |
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more Jobs than Cook…
He’s more like Wozniak. I found him fine. A sweet guy who is a horological stud is Kari V. Extremely well mannered and pleasant. Of course I also met him before he had ridiculous wait lists and such. I probably should have bought a watch from him then and there but I wasn’t on the train yet. |
7 December 2023, 09:29 AM | #38 | |
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^^^ this.
He has, and continues to do, some seriously cool stuff imho. You could 'report' the YouTube channel and move on.
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7 December 2023, 11:38 AM | #40 |
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This is the problem with the interwebs. The rumor mill has never been bigger.
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7 December 2023, 12:13 PM | #41 | |
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Maybe he was asked what was business idea behind getting at that moment mediocre sport star status of brand ambassador and he replied because she is fine piece of p**... then half of collectors sold their watches and the other half recognized that as Classic Journe... |
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7 December 2023, 01:58 PM | #42 |
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I find the whole thing a bit hard to believe; but if the rumor I read is true then maybe I kind of get it. I can’t see collectors at this point in time cashing out on FPJ. It’s not an accident the guy became a huge success he’s very talented.
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7 December 2023, 06:36 PM | #43 |
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Few cliches spring to mind….
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One can be himself without being offensive. If the person still chooses to not mind his manners in certain occasions, then yeah not getting a dime from me. Not that he needs it anyway it seems but still.
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Wonder if any of this will improve availability of the watches at retail? What is it currently, a list of 10K people or more, seeking an allocation out of a few hundred pieces sold in the US annually. The brand is obviously doing a lot of things very well.
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When he worked for Watchbox and they had vested interest in the brands success. The Govberg family has since offloaded much of their Journe collection. |
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I mean govberg had a big hand it pumping up their brand. They built out a really nice boutique just for journe then got dumped right after.
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I don’t get this brand. No offense to anyone on here, but the collectors (and FPJ himself) seem like a bunch of entitled, cult-like, circle j*rker followers of the brand. Quote:
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Watchbox is still heavy into Journe, they just don't promote it as their number 1 brand anymore. That is now DeBethune.
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8 December 2023, 08:10 PM | #55 |
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What I dont get is that in a time where hand finishing is top of mind for many independents collectors, Journe is still a hot commodity.
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8 December 2023, 09:05 PM | #56 |
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Well it’s literally a watchbox brand now lol
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To answer your question, perhaps herd mentality. Some still think PP is the very best (roflol). But yeah, to be fair they both release occasional fun high-complication pieces to flex. We also have to realize, for public influence, Marketing schemes work well, reinforced by auction results (and we know timepiece manufacturers do bid, or have third-parties do it for them).
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Anyone know more to this F.P.Journe story?
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9 December 2023, 09:08 AM | #59 |
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Nico’s latest video is saying more nothing.
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9 December 2023, 09:41 AM | #60 |
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^^^ just click Report on the YouTube video.
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