Panerai is a generic watch using eta manual wind movements

[Timber Loftis]

The original post reminds me of the Monty Python skit: Hi, I'd like to buy an argument, please.

[rvan]

Truth is you can get any cheapie watch made in china or whenever with a manul wind unitas movement, there are dozens on ebay under $200, and they mostly look like panerai's. The reason for buying a watch isn't because it has a in-house movement, or because it is in style or well known. Panerai's appeal to some more than others, the buyer can justify the quality. Some people's $4000 is more valuable than others, and if they are going to throw down that much money they will spend it on something they want, even if the watch as a basic movement and is larger than life.

[bodybump]

How about lets here a response from the OP....

[Nicky G]

*shrug* I love my new PAM 48. It might be my favorite watch. Is it a bit trendy, and probably overpriced for what it is? Maybe/probably. I still dig it. It has a great look, very unlike other brands. If you don't like them, fine. But don't be hatin'.

[Mrdi]

98 posts and trolling?
Perhaps the hour is late and the liquor strong?

[icnbne]

Originally Posted by wegeman76

Why do panerai fanatics think they are such great watches?

They are junk period.
I have owned 2 and both seem like overpriced inviktas to me

I used to love Panerai, but this post totally convinced me to hate them

[R1@160@alltimes]

I would defiantely not mind if my next watch was a PAM

[NavitimerNut]

So a watch that has an in-house movement with a 10 day power reserve is junk?

What a rude comment to make

[RedBaronF2001]

Originally Posted by hutchman

Dont forget many high end manufactures use ETA movements including Patek in $100k + pieces. Are they junk too?

Really? $100,000 Patek's use ETA? News to me

[RedBaronF2001]

While I hate the fact that you can buy a knock-off Panerai-like watch for cheap these days, I don't find the real Panerais to be junk. Sure, they use a "basic" [but proven and reliable] ETA movement in their historic collection, but why not?

The "new" Panerai direction is to utilize in-house movements and increase the complications.

Having said that, I personally find their current MSRPs (for the historics like the 000, 005, 111, and 112) to be a bit optimistic. I traded my last Panerai (a 005), but I miss the way it wears and the ability to change the look of the watch just by changing the strap. I'm inches away from picking up a 312.

Panerai may not be for everyone (like Rolex), but they are certainly not junk.

[brainbizz]

Sounds like Peni$ envy to me.

[Nica64]

I love Panerai!! and Rolex!!.............. junk!

[sushisummo]

I personally don't care what other people say.

As long as I enjoy looking at it and wearing it, that is the bottom line.

[natrab]

I think you guys should give me your crappy Panerai watches. That'll teach 'em

[padi56]

Originally Posted by RedBaronF2001

Really? $100,000 Patek's use ETA? News to me

And too me but they still use a modded Lemania Cal. 2310 as a base for some of there two register m/wind chronographs.

[Mosco]

Originally Posted by natrab

I think you guys should give me your crappy Panerai watches. That'll teach 'em

[Tony-GB]

I think you should have shown some respect & diplomacy in your opening this thread. Panerai may not be to everyone's taste, but as they have only been widely available to the public for a little over ten years & have their huge fanbase their recognition within the industry is a massive achievement.

Some say Stallone launched them into the public eye. His career has been flat for some years now & IMO I think Panerai would still as successful without him. That's because they are extremely legible- non fussy dials & simple robust movements. In my mind a Paneri is like a 911- will always hold it's value & be sought after.

[Bebot]

Originally Posted by wegeman76

Why do panerai fanatics think they are such great watches?

They are junk period.
I have owned 2 and both seem like overpriced inviktas to me

WHOA!!!

This is exactly why I sold my Pam48, Pam88 and Pam312.

[Welshwatchman]

Tis true.

$100,000 Patek with a Swatch based movement. The OP will have a fit.





(Swatch group acquired Breguet alongside La Nouvelle Lemania in 1999)

[argee1977]

Originally Posted by Tony-GB

I think you should have shown some respect & diplomacy in your opening this thread. Panerai may not be to everyone's taste, but as they have only been widely available to the public for a little over ten years & have their huge fanbase their recognition within the industry is a massive achievement.

Some say Stallone launched them into the public eye. His career has been flat for some years now & IMO I think Panerai would still as successful without him. That's because they are extremely legible- non fussy dials & simple robust movements. In my mind a Paneri is like a 911- will always hold it's value & be sought after.

In todays market that's what it's all about, people are mainly buying watches without wanting to lose money in the deal, Panerai are one brand that appears to have survived the worst and still continued to sell well, mainly due to its size of production and of course the fact that they are getting more and more popular.

Everytime i read this type of stuff it does make me think that the original posters don't really know much about watches, they think that if a watch has an 'in-house' movement then it is superior to everything else, but in reality ETA have been producing movements like the 7750, 2824, etc for half a century in some form and they are regarded as some of the most rugged and accurate movements you can get, of course the basic ETA in a £200 watch is usually different to the ones in the likes of Panerai, Bremont, Hublot, etc as these companies mainly order the higher spec movements and have them regulated and COSC certified.

[GBJIV]

I for one am very glad to see that not "everybody" likes Panerai. Many of them are already so difficult to get - if we had every Wedgeman76 in the world buying them - it would just make that much more difficult for the true Panerai folks to obtain and appreciate.

Wedgie, dude, you have no skills bro.

[RedBaronF2001]

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

Tis true.

$100,000 Patek with a Swatch based movement. The OP will have a fit.

I learn something new everyday. If I were to blow $100,000 on a watch it wouldn't be that one.

[MYK]

Originally Posted by wegeman76

Why do panerai fanatics think they are such great watches?

They are junk period.
I have owned 2 and both seem like overpriced inviktas to me

You think they're junk and managed to own two of them? Over the last couple of years I flipped quite a few watches, including a couple of Rolex and a Panerai 111. Out of the bunch, I miss the 111 the most!

[gmt master x]

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

Don't feed the troll guys.

WTF is an invikta anyway?

X2

[Andad]

Some pix of an 'overpriced inviktas' coming up.

I will admit I had concerns about the 6497 until I looked carefully at this Panerai 'blueprinted motor'.

I object to your 'Panerai fanatics' statement as not all Panerai owners are 'fanatics'.

I object to your 'Panerais are junk' statement.

Stuff it...I object to your thread in total.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by RedBaronF2001

I learn something new everyday. If I were to blow $100,000 on a watch it wouldn't be that one.

Cannot understand why not, why would you think Patek chose the Lemania Cal. 2310 to re-work.Quite simple its one of the finest robust base movements to start with.But after the re-work by Patek now the movement is in the top class of two register chronographs.

[Nahligah]

Originally Posted by cody p

ha ha ha, everyone gets so upset - like who cares what this guy thinks?

Hear, hear!!

[Nahligah]

Originally Posted by cody p

ha ha ha, everyone gets so upset - like who cares what this guy thinks?

Hear,hear!!

[rajurama]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Some pix of an 'overpriced inviktas' coming up.

I will admit I had concerns about the 6497 until I looked carefully at this Panerai 'blueprinted motor'.

I object to your 'Panerai fanatics' statement as not all Panerai owners are 'fanatics'.

I object to your 'Panerais are junk' statement.

Stuff it...I object to your thread in total.

Super watch

[rajurama]

Originally Posted by wegeman76

Why do panerai fanatics think they are such great watches?

They are junk period.
I have owned 2 and both seem like overpriced inviktas to me