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Old 11 June 2024, 12:59 AM   #31
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Hey guys, I’m sorta new this but I’m always on here reading through the threads so I thought I’d make my first post! I’ve always wanted at Rolex but up until now I didn’t realize how challenging obtaining one can be. I put my name down in February for a white datejust and i go in probably every 2-4 weeks just to stop in an say hi and I get the same runaround that they do not know when they may receive it etc, the last visit I had my SA told me it could be 1-2 years! From my understanding the Rolex market has kinda of loosened up so is 1-2 years the new reality or is this a way of my SA not wanting to do business with me? I know I could go grey but since this would be my first Rolex I kind of want the buying experience. I’ve read on here before that mayors sometimes doesn’t like selling to people who are first time buyers with no buying history but I didn’t know how true that was.
Very tough market to be in. As others have mentioned stop in from time to time. They do like 1 out of every 4 to 5 Rolex’s to go to first time customers. So you never know.
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Old 11 June 2024, 01:26 AM   #32
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Dealing with large chain ADs is the most difficult way to get your first Rolex unless you plan to spend a lot of money on other things first. It's not to say that it doesn't happen or that family owned ADs can be equally difficult to source pieces from, but in general the latter tend to be easier to build relationships with.

I normally recommend dealing with an AD, especially for your first purchase. In your particular case, if there's nothing else your interested in and if you don't have a laundry list of future Rolex watches you want (where it might make sense to stay patient and acrue future pieces at MSRP), just go to a grey dealer. The premium for a white dial Datejust isn't much.
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Old 11 June 2024, 02:46 AM   #33
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My experience with Mayor’s is the same as the OP, once upon a time I had a very good spend history with them. But it was sold to WOS a few years ago and that history is gone. I went in a year ago and expressed interest in a few pieces nothing like a Pepsi or panda. A DJ41 and a TT GMT which some on here have received in a few days.

I followed up a few times and nothing they don’t care and those so called lists are BS in my opinion. I not gonna beg any AD to sell me a Rolex, I remember going to Mayor’s and seeing the display cases full of Rolex and even an offer of a 10% discount with purchase.
Even a glass of champagne it was a special experience. They wanted your business not anymore? I don’t know if it’s the flippers or that they have so many watch collectors as clients that they need no one else.

All I can say is try another AD, I’m in that process myself.
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Old 11 June 2024, 02:56 AM   #34
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My experience with Mayor’s is the same as the OP, once upon a time I had a very good spend history with them. But it was sold to WOS a few years ago and that history is gone. I went in a year ago and expressed interest in a few pieces nothing like a Pepsi or panda. A DJ41 and a TT GMT which some on here have received in a few days.

I followed up a few times and nothing they don’t care and those so called lists are BS in my opinion. I not gonna beg any AD to sell me a Rolex, I remember going to Mayor’s and seeing the display cases full of Rolex and even an offer of a 10% discount with purchase.
Even a glass of champagne it was a special experience. They wanted your business not anymore? I don’t know if it’s the flippers or that they have so many watch collectors as clients that they need no one else.

All I can say is try another AD, I’m in that process myself.
What is WOS? I keep seeing that word, I’m new to this haha.
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Old 11 June 2024, 03:08 AM   #35
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Going in every 2-4 weeks to get a Datejust is a new one to me.

Either buy a non-Rolex item there to start a purchase history, find another AD, or go grey.

I would only visit every few months. 1-2 times a month is too much.
Hey! I’m new to this, I thought it would be best to develop a relationship by stoping by every time I was near the store. In my mind I just thought it would be hard to develop a relationship if I only stop by once every 3 months. But I guess I need to slow it down from what I’m reading
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Old 11 June 2024, 03:12 AM   #36
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What is WOS? I keep seeing that word, I’m new to this haha.
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Old 11 June 2024, 03:48 AM   #37
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What is WOS? I keep seeing that word, I’m new to this haha.
Watches of Switzerland. They are the corporation that went on an acquisition spree in 2021 across the U.S. buying up the mom & pop authorized dealers. They are publicly traded on the LSE, which means they have to meet quarterly earnings figures. As a result, the sales associates can be quite pushy. When I was buying quarterly (i.e., contributing to the company's quarterly growth that Wall Street imposes on them), I would be offered better products.

From my own experience, they try to sell a lot of product I have no interest in, even after building a substantial spending history. Many times it would be the same reference I had repeatedly told them I did not like. I took this as the sales associates not taking any notes or consideration of what I truly liked.
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Old 11 June 2024, 06:29 AM   #39
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Not going to happen at Mayors with no purchase history at all.

Their corporate office controls customer allocation. Without a purchase history, they see selling you a Rolex as a waste of precious resources that could go to an established client to keep them engaged buying more and more and more. You may buy this Rolex and poof, that’s it. Mayors isn’t interested in that at all. They don’t need to be.

They told you a year to get you to stop coming in. When you come in to “visit” the SA, you take that SA “up” in the customer rotation. He or she is assigned to you until you buy something and leave or just leave. That means they can’t wait on another walk-in customer until you’re out of there. That other customer may buy jewelry or another watch brand, so they miss that opportunity by “talking” to you. They already know your agenda. You want Rolex…won’t buy anything else, they don’t have one for you…adios.

Now, if you bought something else…..then your visits would have more gravitas and that DJ may just show up for you…
I'm going to bravely line up behind Fleetlord, who already brought up what I was thinking. As unpopular as this may be, establish a purchase history to climb the list.
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Old 11 June 2024, 07:00 AM   #40
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I'm going to bravely line up behind Fleetlord, who already brought up what I was thinking. As unpopular as this may be, establish a purchase history to climb the list.
If I bought like a watch case or something similar would that help my case? I can’t afford to go on a shopping spree in the store. I wish my SA would’ve communicated this with me when I first sat down with them :(
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If I bought like a watch case or something similar would that help my case? I can’t afford to go on a shopping spree in the store. I wish my SA would’ve communicated this with me when I first sat down with them :(

Buying anything might help. But non are guarantees. Nick and Adam are both great to work with.
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Nick is the man, he got me a silver snoopy early last year. But I was on the list since its release in 2020.
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If I bought like a watch case or something similar would that help my case? I can’t afford to go on a shopping spree in the store. I wish my SA would’ve communicated this with me when I first sat down with them :(
Usually jewelry works great but if that doesn't work for you, I think any purchase puts you above the unwashed masses. Just buy something that's useful.
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Not going to happen at Mayors with no purchase history at all.

Their corporate office controls customer allocation. Without a purchase history, they see selling you a Rolex as a waste of precious resources that could go to an established client to keep them engaged buying more and more and more. You may buy this Rolex and poof, that’s it. Mayors isn’t interested in that at all. They don’t need to be.

They told you a year to get you to stop coming in. When you come in to “visit” the SA, you take that SA “up” in the customer rotation. He or she is assigned to you until you buy something and leave or just leave. That means they can’t wait on another walk-in customer until you’re out of there. That other customer may buy jewelry or another watch brand, so they miss that opportunity by “talking” to you. They already know your agenda. You want Rolex…won’t buy anything else, they don’t have one for you…adios.

Now, if you bought something else…..then your visits would have more gravitas and that DJ may just show up for you…

Excellent analysis and explanation. The folks at Mayors in Tampa have been wonderful to me over the years. Be a good customer and don't pester them. They are there to earn a living and build relationships with clients for the long term, all in the setting of being part of a larger corporate jewelry store chain. Don't expect something for nothing. Be patient and considerate, you'll get your Datejust.
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If I bought like a watch case or something similar would that help my case? I can’t afford to go on a shopping spree in the store. I wish my SA would’ve communicated this with me when I first sat down with them :(
But don't forget that this specific DateJust you're after is not trading that high above MSRP on the trusted seller market. So don't just buy stuff at the AD you don't want and put yourself over the delta between MSRP and grey pricing. You'll both waste money and time, which are the same thing in the end.

There's also nothing particularly special about buying from an AD, aside from some glad-handing and free drinks. If you want some champagne and bottled water, there's probably a store somewhere near your AD that sells those, too.

A cursory search of trusted sellers shows Takuya and OCWatchguy have a couple white dial DJ 41s around $11.5-13k, a small (and negotiable) premium over what you'd pay at your AD (MSRP of $10.6k plus your local Tampa tax rate). I'd bet you can get them from those sellers for at least 5% less than shown with some gentle negotiation.

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Old 11 June 2024, 09:52 AM   #46
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What’s your experience with them?
They don’t want to sell you any Rolexes without other purchases. They will string you along. Been waiting for a watch for over 3 years from them. Kiefer is no better. All these ADs suck nowadays.
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Nick is the man, he got me a silver snoopy early last year. But I was on the list since its release in 2020.
So you are the one Mr. Rolexx was telling me about, You might been the last one who got the snoopy from there or close to it.


We should do a Tampa outing. I know store director in Tampa said there will be a pretty good party when the new spot opens up.
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They don’t want to sell you any Rolexes without other purchases. They will string you along. Been waiting for a watch for over 3 years from them. Kiefer is no better. All these ADs suck nowadays.
Kiefers is way worse and borderline unethical. Mayors is at least straight forward.

Honestly OP you are not asking for much. Go see Adam or Nick if it does not work out with current SA.
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So you are the one Mr. Rolexx was telling me about, You might been the last one who got the snoopy from there or close to it.


We should do a Tampa outing. I know store director in Tampa said there will be a pretty good party when the new spot opens up.
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Old 11 June 2024, 12:22 PM   #51
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Kiefers is way worse and borderline unethical. Mayors is at least straight forward.

Honestly OP you are not asking for much. Go see Adam or Nick if it does not work out with current SA.
What does Kiefers do that makes them worse and unethical?

Thanks for the feedback!! I definitely appreciate it!
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We should do a Tampa outing. I know store director in Tampa said there will be a pretty good party when the new spot opens up.
Count me in too. Send us DMs, Nick might get in an H Moser i may buy
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Yes pls post it in the meeting section. We had a very large GTG at that location years back where a handful attended from England. Jeff Hess attended the dinner afterwards and brought watches along to see. James Dowling came to a few in Orlando and NYC. Never know. Maybe they would attend.
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Yes pls post it in the meeting section. We had a very large GTG at that location years back where a handful attended from England. Jeff Hess attended the dinner afterwards and brought watches along to see. James Dowling came to a few in Orlando and NYC. Never know. Maybe they would attend.
That's the spirit!

And if it helps the OP to make contacts with the Tampa Mayors Director + SAs then all the better.

I used to visit Tampa several times a year before the pandemic. Got to know Dr. Tom and we met up at Mayors - his rep was willing to help me. Of course that was before the current environment - but the staff was gracious and focused on serving customers.

Now a word about establishing a relationship - I think that it never hurts to make jewelry purchases you were going to make anyway - and do it at Mayors Tampa.


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The thing about mayors and jewelry. They used to have a very nice selection. Now, not really.
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Not to hijack this but is there anything going on with the Mayors location in Atlanta? Shows as “temporarily closed” on some websites.
That’s where I recently put myself in The List for a DJ.
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Not to hijack this but is there anything going on with the Mayors location in Atlanta? Shows as “temporarily closed” on some websites.
That’s where I recently put myself in The List for a DJ.
They are redoing it. They are opening a new store later this year.
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Kiefers is way worse and borderline unethical. Mayors is at least straight forward.

Honestly OP you are not asking for much. Go see Adam or Nick if it does not work out with current SA.
I highly disagree with this. Keifers is way more genuine and actually treats you like a valuable customer.

Mayors is a pure business transaction, "what have you bought from us lately?" "what's your spend total?"

I have purchased Rolexes at each and as a customer and as someone in sales myself, I really don't like Mayors and even walking into their store anymore. Just an off-putting feeling
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Kiefers is way worse and borderline unethical. Mayors is at least straight forward.

Honestly OP you are not asking for much. Go see Adam or Nick if it does not work out with current SA.
This exactly!
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Mayors Tampa has my Daytona in for repair at Rolex, they have serviced a few for me. They have new watches on sale, but the director told me her Sky Dweller took 14 months for her and she runs the store.

My o2 ask the director.

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