Anyone purchased the new 126710 GRNR yet?

[Mack640dGC]

Originally Posted by Neil McCauley

I agree - all points leading towards my theory that the GRNR is the "entry level" GMT Master II, which is fine of course!
However I do believe that's a good reason to think that a lot of people are buying it "because they got the call", and we'll probably continue to see a lot more of these hit the secondary market as the buyers remorse settles in.

I'm sure there are some out there that love it and are happy with their pickups, but it's no BLRO/BLNR/VTNR in terms of desirability, that's for sure.

Not sure I agree on the point it’s below a BLNR, I’ve got both BLRO and BLNR and I’d say BLNR is definitely bottom of the pile, and on jubilee it’s a 100% no for me, just looks wrong, just my opinion


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[Neil McCauley]

Originally Posted by Mack640dGC

Not sure I agree on the point it’s below a BLNR, I’ve got both BLRO and BLNR and I’d say BLNR is definitely bottom of the pile, and on jubilee it’s a 100% no for me, just looks wrong, just my opinion


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That's great, and it's your personal opinion about the colour, we all have different likes and dislikes. My point isn't about liking/disliking the colour though, more about availability.

It's already proving a lot easier to get hold of at retail than a BLNR ever has. A mere 90 days after launch, and that's a fact. The last new GMT to release was the VTNR, and we didn't even begin to see models hit ADs until ~3 months down the line.

Using my magic crystal ball, the SS GRNR will sit in windows unsold in the not-too-distant future. People won't like it, but that's what'll happen.

[Mack640dGC]

Originally Posted by Neil McCauley

That's great, and it's your personal opinion about the colour, we all have different likes and dislikes. My point isn't about liking/disliking the colour though, more about availability.

It's already proving a lot easier to get hold of at retail than a BLNR ever has. A mere 90 days after launch, and that's a fact. The last new GMT to release was the VTNR, and we didn't even begin to see models hit ADs until ~3 months down the line.

Using my magic crystal ball, the SS GRNR will sit in windows unsold in the not-too-distant future. People won't like it, but that's what'll happen.

I’ve been offered VTNR and turned it down because it’s not for me so to me that’s easily available but others think it’s hard to get, if you have a good relationship with the AD and don’t flip watches most stuff is obtainable


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[rmlovett1]

Still have the original all black ceramic bezel. I MIGHT go to the new version on Jubilee at some point, but no rush to get that done

[GW44]

Originally Posted by Neil McCauley

Using my magic crystal ball, the SS GRNR will sit in windows unsold in the not-too-distant future. People won't like it, but that's what'll happen.

What world is this “magic crystal ball” operating in please?

[Farleyv1]

I can't work out if I prefer the 116710ln over the GRNR. GRNR just seems a bit washed out / incomplete.

[Mimar2910]

Originally Posted by Farleyv1

I can't work out if I prefer the 116710ln over the GRNR. GRNR just seems a bit washed out / incomplete.

+1
I would go with something else instead.

[brandrea]

They’ve certainly got alot of GMT options now

[Tallbark]

The new release - does that mean that the 126710 will stick around for a few more years? I was expecting the 41mm non-maxi-case treatment...

[Mack640dGC]

Entry level, you’ve been watching too much of the “Honest Watch” dealer, who made you an authority on what’s entry level.

Also some people just purchase what they want because they like it irrespective of secondary market value, probably because it’s of no consequence to them as they can afford to keep the watch.


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[Mack640dGC]

Originally Posted by Mack640dGC

Entry level, you’ve been watching too much of the “Honest Watch” dealer, who made you an authority on what’s entry level.

Also some people just purchase what they want because they like it irrespective of secondary market value, probably because it’s of no consequence to them as they can afford to keep the watch.


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[GW44]

Originally Posted by Mack640dGC

Entry level, you’ve been watching too much of the “Honest Watch” dealer, who made you an authority on what’s entry level.

Also some people just purchase what they want because they like it irrespective of secondary market value, probably because it’s of no consequence to them as they can afford to keep the watch.


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Well said Mack.

Chrono 24 and on-line watch forums are not the entire watch market so quoting them to back up a sketchy theory or statement/s is never going to wash with those that have a wider market view.

IF there are 125 of these GRNR watches for sale Worldwide on Chrono 24 (as quoted by the other guy) that is a) really not a lot at all b) debatable how many exactly exist and are not click bait listings c) there are many Rolex buyers who have no idea about on-line forums and if a watch is worth X or Y and, most likely, don't give a stuff! and d) not any real indicator of the market or the watch's status.

[Neil McCauley]

Originally Posted by Mack640dGC

Entry level, you’ve been watching too much of the “Honest Watch” dealer, who made you an authority on what’s entry level.

Also some people just purchase what they want because they like it irrespective of secondary market value, probably because it’s of no consequence to them as they can afford to keep the watch.


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I have no clue who that dealer is, sorry, your analogy is lost on me.

As for your comment about who made me an authority on what's entry level? The same can be equally said for you - who made you an authority to say my opinion is wrong? There's actually more data to support my theory than there is in your retort:

Quite clearly there are much higher numbers of these GRNRs making it onto the wrists of people very soon after Watches and Wonders, and there are considerably more on the grey market than you would usually see, so soon after release.

I don't get what is so difficult to understand about this statement, it's literally fact - we haven't seen that before, on any SS Rolex in the last 4-6yrs+ so soon after launch. It just doesn't happen.
This leads me to believe that Rolex are likely to make this watch in greater numbers and for it to be more available than its brighter coloured counterpart GMTs, and therefore, more of an entry-level style of GMT.

It's not that hard to understand - this isn't me talking about whether I or other people like/dislike the watch or whether they can afford it, or whatever else you are talking about. Yes people just buy it, in fact a good friend of mine just has bought one because he likes it, and great for him - I don't get why you pointed that out to me, I didn't say anything on the contrary other than some people will buy it because it's just a SS GMT and the latest thing.

[123Blueface]

Originally Posted by Neil McCauley

I have no clue who that dealer is, sorry, your analogy is lost on me.

As for your comment about who made me an authority on what's entry level? The same can be equally said for you - who made you an authority to say my opinion is wrong? There's actually more data to support my theory than there is in your retort:

Quite clearly there are much higher numbers of these GRNRs making it onto the wrists of people very soon after Watches and Wonders, and there are considerably more on the grey market than you would usually see, so soon after release.

I don't get what is so difficult to understand about this statement, it's literally fact - we haven't seen that before, on any SS Rolex in the last 4-6yrs+ so soon after launch. It just doesn't happen.
This leads me to believe that Rolex are likely to make this watch in greater numbers and for it to be more available than its brighter coloured counterpart GMTs, and therefore, more of an entry-level style of GMT.

It's not that hard to understand - this isn't me talking about whether I or other people like/dislike the watch or whether they can afford it, or whatever else you are talking about. Yes people just buy it, in fact a good friend of mine just has bought one because he likes it, and great for him - I don't get why you pointed that out to me, I didn't say anything on the contrary other than some people will buy it because it's just a SS GMT and the latest thing.

To your point, only 7/3 and 124 for sale on Chrono24.

[Mack640dGC]

Originally Posted by Neil McCauley

I have no clue who that dealer is, sorry, your analogy is lost on me.

As for your comment about who made me an authority on what's entry level? The same can be equally said for you - who made you an authority to say my opinion is wrong? There's actually more data to support my theory than there is in your retort:

Quite clearly there are much higher numbers of these GRNRs making it onto the wrists of people very soon after Watches and Wonders, and there are considerably more on the grey market than you would usually see, so soon after release.

I don't get what is so difficult to understand about this statement, it's literally fact - we haven't seen that before, on any SS Rolex in the last 4-6yrs+ so soon after launch. It just doesn't happen.
This leads me to believe that Rolex are likely to make this watch in greater numbers and for it to be more available than its brighter coloured counterpart GMTs, and therefore, more of an entry-level style of GMT.

It's not that hard to understand - this isn't me talking about whether I or other people like/dislike the watch or whether they can afford it, or whatever else you are talking about. Yes people just buy it, in fact a good friend of mine just has bought one because he likes it, and great for him - I don't get why you pointed that out to me, I didn't say anything on the contrary other than some people will buy it because it's just a SS GMT and the latest thing.

How do YOU know what Rolex marketing plan is? Are you a board member, I very much doubt that.

How do YOU know how available they will make this in the longer term, nobody knows and FYI there are 13 listed in the UK, 3 of them aren’t genuine listings so make that 10.

You’re making assumptions because it’s the first watch made available following W&W.

If it is available to people who actually want a watch to wear then good to that, as I said not everyone sits there at night smug thinking they have a timepiece that Could make them a small return, and if people do do that they’re in this for the wrong reason.

Anyway, you go and enjoy your evening and wait for yet another GRNR to hit Chrono , You’re boring me now


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[Neil McCauley]

Originally Posted by Mack640dGC

How do YOU know what Rolex marketing plan is? Are you a board member, I very much doubt that.

How do YOU know how available they will make this in the longer term, nobody knows and FYI there are 13 listed in the UK, 3 of them aren’t genuine listings so make that 10.

You’re making assumptions because it’s the first watch made available following W&W.

If it is available to people who actually want a watch to wear then good to that, as I said not everyone sits there at night smug thinking they have a timepiece that Could make them a small return, and if people do do that they’re in this for the wrong reason.

Anyway, you go and enjoy your evening and wait for yet another GRNR to hit Chrono , You’re boring me now


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Literally I have no clue why you're arguing with me over this

The numbers are clear. C24 listings are still higher than any other previous new SS Sports model 3 months in - fake or not, the real ones are there.
The incoming posts are clear, there are a fair number of them indeed.
There are more of these released so far than any other SS sports model this far in released in the last 4-6yrs

Aaaaanyway. Glad you're bored, I don't really care if you believe me or not - it's merely a theory as I've stated many times lol - you've given no evidence to support my theory is wrong other than saying I'm making assumptions, when I'm just saying it as I see it based off the number I'm seeing here, on socials, in my own social circle and on the open market.

[Dave O]

Originally Posted by Neil McCauley

Literally I have no clue why you're arguing with me over this

The numbers are clear. C24 listings are still higher than any other previous new SS Sports model 3 months in - fake or not, the real ones are there.
The incoming posts are clear, there are a fair number of them indeed.
There are more of these released so far than any other SS sports model this far in released in the last 4-6yrs

Aaaaanyway. Glad you're bored, I don't really care if you believe me or not - it's merely a theory as I've stated many times lol - you've given no evidence to support my theory is wrong other than saying I'm making assumptions, when I'm just saying it as I see it based off the number I'm seeing here, on socials, in my own social circle and on the open market.

I tend to agree with your theory about more of these being released vs. prior releases. Last year I was one of the first to obtain the new TT GRNR (June) from my AD. I was one of the very first to post an incoming on it and to be frank, there just weren't that many "incoming" posts on it either even though many had put in requests for one from their AD. Granted, mine is the TT version but the fact remains there are a lot more incoming's on this SS version verses my TT version around the same time frame from release.

[123Blueface]

Originally Posted by Neil McCauley

Literally I have no clue why you're arguing with me over this

The numbers are clear. C24 listings are still higher than any other previous new SS Sports model 3 months in - fake or not, the real ones are there.
The incoming posts are clear, there are a fair number of them indeed.
There are more of these released so far than any other SS sports model this far in released in the last 4-6yrs

Aaaaanyway. Glad you're bored, I don't really care if you believe me or not - it's merely a theory as I've stated many times lol - you've given no evidence to support my theory is wrong other than saying I'm making assumptions, when I'm just saying it as I see it based off the number I'm seeing here, on socials, in my own social circle and on the open market.

I’ll just add that I live in what is a very affluent market, in Boca Raton, with a a very large AD in town, hated by some, loved by many like me.
My SA has never misled me on wait times.
While there to pick up a new Rolex, I saw this reference. I was told it could be very quickly had as very little interest in it compared to past releases.

[GW44]

Originally Posted by Neil McCauley

Literally I have no clue why you're arguing with me over this

The numbers are clear. C24 listings are still higher than any other previous new SS Sports model 3 months in - fake or not, the real ones are there.
The incoming posts are clear, there are a fair number of them indeed.
There are more of these released so far than any other SS sports model this far in released in the last 4-6yrs

Aaaaanyway. Glad you're bored, I don't really care if you believe me or not - it's merely a theory as I've stated many times lol - you've given no evidence to support my theory is wrong other than saying I'm making assumptions, when I'm just saying it as I see it based off the number I'm seeing here, on socials, in my own social circle and on the open market.

I suspect he’s “arguing” (your word, I’d say he’s calling you out as I have…) about your wildly presumptive comments that are without any facts to back them up?

Shall I summarise?

1. Do you have the specific comparative data to prove your assertion that more GRNR’s are for sale after launch than another GMT model?
2. Do you have the data for TRF for “incoming” posts?
3. What factual evidence do you have to support this statement? “There are more of these released so far than any other SS Sports model this far released in the last 4-6 years”
4. Is it an actual “theory”, “facts” or just your own unsubstantiated opinion passed off as “facts” please?
5. With respect, you are the one making wide ranging, unproven statements and with zero facts/data points to back them up……..but very happy to be proven otherwise.

Forums are great for sharing views and opinions but if you’re going to overstate those and without any evidence you should expect to be called out. As you have been here.

Or you could just enjoy your watches and not throw out opinions that you try to offer as “facts” when they are far removed from that.

[Bazil]

Great to,see everyone getting along as usual ..

[Watchwoody]

Was anyone offered the ability to buy the other bracelet when purchasing? I know during w and w they implied that you could pick up either at time of purchase.

[Mack640dGC]

Originally Posted by Watchwoody

Was anyone offered the ability to buy the other bracelet when purchasing? I know during w and w they implied that you could pick up either at time of purchase.

I have a BLRO and BLNR on oyster so haven’t needed to ask.

I believe Hodinkee indicated this was possible


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[Watchwoody]

Originally Posted by Mack640dGC

I have a BLRO and BLNR on oyster so haven’t needed to ask.

I believe Hodinkee indicated this was possible


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Yeah that’s where I believe I heard it. Curious if anyone has had the ability to buy both when picking them up?

[dukie748]

To me, the GRNR is the new LN - and that's not a bad thing at all - still wish they had produced the text and GMT indicator in gray, I struggle with the green on an otherwise monochrome watch.

[Barada7]

If that watch could get a Sprite bezel, it’d be the top GMT for Rolex.