Trade submariner for speedmaster 321

[Saoirse32]

Originally Posted by TheVision

You'll regret this in a month.

Omega doesnt hold value (unless its a SE) and ya can literally pick up any speedy pre-owned for under retail ..anyday of the week.

And it's a apple-cranberry comparison. Speedys are barely WR ..only a single gasket on the crown to give it that 30m WR. No gaskets on the chrono pushers. No date either.

Sub is a one watch to rule them all and the reason why even non WIS folks get a sub (or a datejust) as their ONLY watch for years.

I'd just save up and add a speedy. I was in Vegas this past weekend and Omega boutique had the new white dial speedy in stock and they were ready to waive the local tax on top. I've owned several Omegas in the past and never paid retail for any of them and nor will I sell my sub to get a Omega...it's a downgrade IMO.

You may want to revisit this answer lol

OP-
Do it.
You basically answered your own question. You haven’t worn the Sub in quite a while, and that piece can always be re-added with ease if/when you want it back.

The EW is special and would make an excellent addition to your already great Speedmaster collection.
Sláinte.


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[Roddypeepa]

Ed white 321 is a special watch. But I’d say cash difference is a little high by around £1k

But if you’re not wearing the submariner then go for it!


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[Manamana]

Originally Posted by espanol

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I'd do it. 321 is amazing in the metal. Sub is nothing special, albeit a workhorse.

Exactly. Amazes me that some say the Submariner is iconic, and dismiss the 321. OP I agree you should add a 321, but only if you have at least one Rolex first. You should know the 321 is at a different level above the Sub as there is no comparison, but at least one Rolex is a must in any collection.

[bluestreak]

Absolutely crazy to advise someone to pass on an amazing watch to keep a watch he doesn’t wear…

[Manamana]

Originally Posted by bluestreak

Absolutely crazy to advise someone to pass on an amazing watch to keep a watch he doesn’t wear…

Yes totally agree, plus the Submariner is so common and nothing special compared to the 321.

[bluestreak]

Originally Posted by Manamana

Yes totally agree, plus the Submariner is so common and nothing special compared to the 321.

I think maybe people don’t what the 321 is. There were people up thread saying that you could get it at a discount, which makes me think they don’t know what they are talking about.

[Manamana]

Originally Posted by bluestreak

I think maybe people don’t what the 321 is. There were people up thread saying that you could get it at a discount, which makes me think they don’t know what they are talking about.

100% a lot don't know anything about the 321, they just hear Speedmaster which is actually iconic even as a standard model even more than a Sub. Some think a Rolex logo on any watch will make it a special watch. Some don't know or try to forget that 6 years ago gold Rolex can be bought from ADs for 25-30% discount, and even a sought after Hulk Submariner could be had at 15% discount. Getting a watch at discount or at less than retail has nothing to do with how special the watch is. Just wait until Omega stops producing the 321 and check prices after 5 plus years and you will see people lusting over it.

[Cru Jones]

I don’t know about the financial aspects of the trade, but I know I’d rather have a 321 “Ed White” over an LN Submariner Date.

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by brandrea

I like me some cannabis gold

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by Krash

I wouldn’t do it unless I had another Sub.


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[DauJones]

321 is much more collectible watch and really an unique watch.
As much as I love Rolex I would do this trade 8/10.
The sub is also iconic but easy to get and an every man’s watch (don’t get me wrong).

But might be biased - picking up mit Speedy Pro Daniel Craig today :b


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[SMPc]

Originally Posted by Ali1009

Thanks for everyone's feedback. I have a 116500ln black daytona, the latest snoopy, the speedmaster apollo 11 50th anniversary, the submariner I'm thinking of trading, a DJ 41 wimbeldon and a tag carrera. The reason I'm looking to offload the submariner is because it gets the least amount of wrist time. The last time I wore it was probably a year ago. I've always liked the 321 especially the case back, such a stunning movement.

Based on the fact that you didn’t wear the Sub within the last year, I’d let it go and do the trade.

[GB-man]

For me personally it’s a bit speedy heavy to have that many in a small collection but it also speaks to the fact that you know exactly what you’re getting into. I would go for it.

[Krash]

Originally Posted by Manamana

100% a lot don't know anything about the 321, they just hear Speedmaster which is actually iconic even as a standard model even more than a Sub. Some think a Rolex logo on any watch will make it a special watch. Some don't know or try to forget that 6 years ago gold Rolex can be bought from ADs for 25-30% discount, and even a sought after Hulk Submariner could be had at 15% discount. Getting a watch at discount or at less than retail has nothing to do with how special the watch is. Just wait until Omega stops producing the 321 and check prices after 5 plus years and you will see people lusting over it.

Submariner and Speedmaster are my two favorite watches. So, somehow, I’d still want a Submariner with this transaction.

But based on what the OP is saying, he should make the trade. He seems to value Speedmasters more, and that’s great. To each his own.


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[Harry-57]

I would aim to own both. If I had to chose I'd have the Omega but I wouldn't trade a Sub for one. It doesn't look like a particularly good deal but I'm not expert.

[bp1000]

Both should exist in a collection.

I would just add it whenever possible.

[Oxfordian]

Which watch appeals the most?

I like a Speedmaster, mine is a 1861 variant but if I wanted another it would have to be the 321 modern edition, if I win the lottery the platinum version.

But its all about you, both are iconic but in very different ways, which will suit you best long term.

[Mr Ben]

Originally Posted by daysky1

Which 321 are you talking about There's a Speedmaster caliber 321 39.7 mm Steel on Steel there's a Speedmaster caliber 321 42 mm platinum on leather there's a Speedmaster caliber 321 38.6 mm cannabis gold on cannabis gold It appears your talking about the "Sapphire sandwich", Caliber 321, as I understand it this is not a Master Chronograph. Which is the best Omega makes, in either case I wouldn't trade a Rolex for it. The Sub is one of the most iconic watches in Rolex series of watches. And you might possibly be able to pick up the 321 at a discount, bide your time and shop around for a new 321 from gray Market. imho

Cannabis gold sounds like a fun material for a space themed moon watch…!

[PenDelicate]

You've two speedmasters and you'd trade the Sub for third speedmaster?

You really like Speedmasters.

[Stew7]

Originally Posted by bluestreak

Absolutely crazy to advise someone to pass on an amazing watch to keep a watch he doesn’t wear…

Exactly. Why on earth would people suggest you keep something you don't use versus something you're more interested in? Maybe too many people reading only the thread title and not the thread comments.

Worst case is you trade the 321 later on for the Sub if you want a redo.

[BraveBold]

Not a big fan of speedy and find the sub boring. So I guess I shouldn’t share my opinion… but I will.

Trade the sub or trade one of your other speedy’s - not much difference to me. I know what I’d do, however. Swap the sub for an Omega PO + cash, trade the Speedy 50th + (cash from the sub to PO swap above) for your 321.

Unlock cash and end up with the superior diver and the superior speedy.

[1William]

I would add not trade.

[watchwatcher]

Originally Posted by mgsooner

I personally would not do this. If I were OP I would sell one of the Speedys he already owns to help fund the 321. Just one man’s opinion.

This is where I tend to land...plus I don't think you're getting fair value for your sub.

That said, if the Speedy is what sings to you, then the only rule is to make yourself happy.

[tommm]

Ed White i'd trade for a sub. But then I sold my no-date years ago cos I just find subs boring.

The Ed White is a serious watch. Its all about those non-twisted lugs, it looks incredible in the flesh, really sets it apart from the Speedy Pro

[travisb]

Don't sell the Sub.
Adding is the only option in this scenario.

[Krash]

I’m a big Speedmaster fan, but I think the 321 is a little overrated. Sorry. I’d rather have the regular moon watch.


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[Gerry62]

Why not...
I don't like that Submariner reference ... for aesthetics, caliber, size. I would like to have a Sub and then I would buy a 16610 / 5513 / 14060 / 16610LV .......

[SteveY]

321 is stunning, would love to purchase too.

[njlam]

The 321 EW will be the best watch in your collection.

[Gearjockey]

Having time to digest the thread after a long flight back from EU.
That EW 321 is a reference.

It sounds to me like you really like the Speedmaster line and You’re not really interested in dive watches, so I understand the trade.

For those who think that the submariner is boring, I don’t get that part.
What’s an “exciting” watch?

Put any watch on your wrist for an extended period of time and it’s going to get boring. That’s why we have several in our collection.