Should we only "prime" and not fully wind our auto Rolexes?

[Krash]

Originally Posted by ColoradoTime

I’m not sure this is true for all manual wind. I only have one manual wind - a speedy - and you can’t overwind it.


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I have a Speedy and I’m pretty sure you can. I was told to stop as soon as you get resistance.


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[ColoradoTime]

Originally Posted by Krash

I have a Speedy and I’m pretty sure you can. I was told to stop as soon as you get resistance.


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Good to know! The SA at the Omega boutique told me you can’t. Don’t want to find out the hard way who is right!


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[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Krash

I have a Speedy and I’m pretty sure you can. I was told to stop as soon as you get resistance.


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I have found as have others, that resistance on a new Mainspring can be a little misleading in some cases.
It may feel like it's at the end of a full wind condition but there may be some more to go.
After a while it settles in and feels consistent all the way to fully wound.
A definate stop point is unmistakable.

It's not unheard of around the Omega forums for newbies with manual wind Speedies to be mistaken about reaching full wind and mistakenly stop short out of being a little overly cautious, only to find that the watch stops prematurely and unexpectedly.
It's probably in the top 10 most common questions that get asked.
Some user experience and guidance and wearing in of the mechanism usually puts things right

[Kevin of Larchmont]

I’m in the 40-turn club from stopped and I let my wrist do the rest until I need to reset it or I take it off and it stops then I do it all over again.

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by Kevin of Larchmont

I’m in the 40-turn club from stopped and I let my wrist do the rest until I need to reset it or I take it off and it stops then I do it all over again.

40TC Member.


We should have hats and T-Shirts made.

TRF 40TC.

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[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Easy E

40TC Member.


We should have hats and T-Shirts made.

TRF 40TC.

Consider this post an official photoshop request.

Lol.
How about in the best interests of equality.
We have Primer club T shirts as well?

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by Dirt

Lol.
How about in the best interests of equality.
We have Primer club T shirts as well?

No, they can have koozies

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Easy E

No, they can have koozies

Ooh noice.
Wouldn'tit be lovely

[Andad]

Originally Posted by Easy E

40TC Member.


We should have hats and T-Shirts made.

TRF 40TC.

Consider this post an official photoshop request.

Count me in.

By the time I set it from zero PR my auto watch will be running and I just wear it.
It will be up to 1/2 PR by lunch time.

[Dirt]

Do as you please.

But being that i'm a fairly practical sort of person.
I'll happily stick my hand up as geing a fully paid up member of the official Rolex Primer Club.
That is unless i have a specific reason to go to the trouble to fully wind my watches.

After all, why have a dog and bark yourself?
Especially as my watches are fully wound on my wrist from an absolute dead stopped condition in as little as 6-8 hours whilst on my wrist on any given casual kind of day.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by Dirt

Do as you please.

But being that i'm a fairly practical sort of person.
I'll happily stick my hand up as geing a fully paid up member of the official Rolex Primer Club.
That is unless i have a specific reason to go to the trouble to fully wind my watches.

After all, why have a dog and bark yourself?
Especially as my watches are fully wound on my wrist from an absolute dead stopped condition in as little as 6-8 hours whilst on my wrist on any given casual kind of day.

How do you know they are fully topped off? Really the only way to tell is to take them off after that 6-8 hours and wind them up manually to hear the mainspring slip past to actually know in fact that amount of movement that day is enough to fully wind the movement.

The take away is not to wind every day arbitrarily but IF your watch is stopped and you have to unscrew the crown anyway, why not fully wind the watch?? It takes 15 seconds longer to do before you rescrew in the crown anyway. The act of unscrewing the crown is what most want to avoid but IF you have to unscrew the crown anyway, then fully wind the watch. It will also be more accurate right off the bat when you reset the time as the Rolex movements (especially) is always its most accurate at the top of the mainspring power.

We have had many reports of owners with sedimentary office jobs where their watch has stopped on the wrist from lack of motion. Then to find out all they do is give a few winds when their watch does stop only to report again their watch has stopped.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Mystro

How do you know they are fully topped off? Really the only way to tell is to take them off after that 6-8 hours and wind them up manually to hear the mainspring slip past to actually know in fact that amount of movement that day is enough to fully wind the movement.

The take away is not to wind every day but IF your watch is stopped and you have to unscrew the crown anyway, why not fully wind the watch?? It takes 15 seconds longer to do before you rescrew in the crown anyway. The act of unscrewing the crown is what most want to avoid but IF you have to unscrew the crown anyway, then fully wind the watch. It will also be more accurate right off the bat when you reset the time as the Rolex movements (especially) is always its most accurate at the top of the mainspring power.

We have had many reports of owners with sedimentary office jobs where their watch has stopped on the wrist from lack of motion. Then to find out all they do is give a few winds when their watch does stop only to report again their watch has stopped.

The fact is that i couldn't be bothered counting the turns or wasting my time.
If i was on the clock it would be a classic WOFTAM.

Who knows?
Some people may not be able to count that high even after they had a friend or three take their shoes off.

Seriously, as you note.
I prefaced my original comment by saying "Do as you please".
That was for a good reason.

This subject has been covered off extensively on this forum by the usual suspects, myself included.
Surely logic must prevail over personal obsessions at some point along the continuum? Then this is a Rolex forum

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Mystro

How do you know they are fully topped off? Really the only way to tell is to take them off after that 6-8 hours and wind them up manually to hear the mainspring slip past to actually know in fact that amount of movement that day is enough to fully wind the movement.

The take away is not to wind every day arbitrarily but IF your watch is stopped and you have to unscrew the crown anyway, why not fully wind the watch?? It takes 15 seconds longer to do before you rescrew in the crown anyway. The act of unscrewing the crown is what most want to avoid but IF you have to unscrew the crown anyway, then fully wind the watch. It will also be more accurate right off the bat when you reset the time as the Rolex movements (especially) is always its most accurate at the top of the mainspring power.

We have had many reports of owners with sedimentary office jobs where their watch has stopped on the wrist from lack of motion. Then to find out all they do is give a few winds when their watch does stop only to report again their watch has stopped.

Obviously it depends on how active you are, but tests confirm that I can give my stopped watches a few winds (5 or so) wear them for a day or two and they keep ticking for pretty much their full power reserve.

For me, wearing fully winds my watches, it doesn't just maintain the pre worn PR.

[ArtNouveau]

Meh…I wind mine fully when I switch to one that’s stopped and have never had any issues.

[HogwldFLTR]

My watches can go weeks and months without being worn. I’ve no concern about winding to get them going. I will use the rachet approach as opposed to going in one direction.

[faz]

For best results , I use my electric screw driver and give it a full minute of wind. You can never be too sure.


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[faz]

Joking aside, I have always wound my automatic watches with no issues whatsoever.

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by faz

For best results , I use my electric screw driver and give it a full minute of wind. You can never be too sure.


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Yes! Add replaceable bits for each crown. I like where your head is at on this one.

[faz]

Originally Posted by Easy E

Yes! Add replaceable bits for each crown. I like where your head is at on this one.

Only the best!







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[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by Easy E

Yes! Add replaceable bits for each crown. I like where your head is at on this one.

Here you go . . . there are a few types, manual and battery powered.

https://www.bergeon.swiss/05-optique...ur-montre.html

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by faz

For best results , I use my electric screw driver and give it a full minute of wind. You can never be too sure.


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Why not?
After all, it's not possible to overwind a Rolex at all.
Apparently

How many turns would that put into it?
Would that be a better alternative to a watch winder?

I might be in the market

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by Dirt

Why not?
After all, it's not possible to overwind a Rolex at all.
Apparently

How many turns would that put into it?
Would that be a better alternative to a watch winder?

I might be in the market

From what I can find, many cordless power screwdrivers run at about 210 rpms. So that would put in around 200 turn +/- in a minute. But if 40 winds is good, surely 200 winds is better.

But seriously, if I understand correctly, the mainspring inner barrel surface is coated with a light layer of braking grease upon which the end of the mainspring slides once the spring is full wound; therefore, it is not possible to overwind these springs. Someone can correct me if wrong.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

From what I can find, many cordless power screwdrivers run at about 210 rpms. So that would put in around 200 turn +/- in a minute. But if 40 winds is good, surely 200 winds is better.

But seriously, if I understand correctly, the mainspring inner barrel surface is coated with a light layer of braking grease upon which the end of the mainspring slides once the spring is full wound; therefore, it is not possible to overwind these springs. Someone can correct me if wrong.

Yes the Mainspring slides inside the barrel so it's not possible to overwind(in the classic sense) where the spring will break.
But that doesn't eliminate broken Mainsprings either. Just significantly mitigates the risk

The Mainspring has what's commonly referred to as a Bridle, which is basically a bit of a "crank" in the end which engages with a detent that's formed in the inside surface of the Barrel. That's what makes the different and most audible click one hears periodically when the watch is fully wound as it slips at full wind and then re-engages with the detent as it's clicking back into position when one continues winding.

[Cassian739]

Originally Posted by faz

For best results , I use my electric screw driver and give it a full minute of wind. You can never be too sure.

That's hilarious! Hope it's doesn't go over 40-60 turns

Not that it matters

[codecow]

“Is it safe to wind my Rolex?”

[Chiboy]

Originally Posted by codecow

“Is it safe to wind my Rolex?”

[geoach]

Originally Posted by Guppydriver

Had an interesting convo with a watch maker who I like and trust. I guess he doesn't "make" watches but he owns an indie watch and clock shop and services all models.

Over coffee, he mentioned that automatic watches have a far less robust winding mechanism than a manual wind. He said he would avoid fully winding by hand any automatic watch. That they are designed to be primed with a few turns and then worn to wind and not manually wound to the stop.

Since all modern Rolex are automatics, I thought it was an interesting topic.

True? Urban legend? Somewhere in between?

your watch maker might be right........my PP aqua manual states'' turn the crown just 10 times when the watch has not been worn to start the watch''

[911991]

Wound my 5 digit Sub date about 50 times for 25 years with no issues, last 10 years its been on a watch winder, guess what, still no issues. Just wear em and enjoy!!!

[brandrea]

Here another article I just read

https://www.everestbands.com/blogs/b...oUpj_Mo.dYenhA


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[Easy E]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Here another article I just read

https://www.everestbands.com/blogs/b...oUpj_Mo.dYenhA


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I didn't know about the term bridle or how it actually work. Pretty slick. Thanks