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77T · 30 January 2018, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaky

Have I missed something lol

Unfortunately some people post without reading most of the stuff in between. I can’t blame them, there is quite a bit, but I think the majority of us can agree the OP is not a troll.

I agree wholeheartedly that Gerardo has never trolled and anyone looking at his post history would agree.

I’m thinking a member hastily using a derogatory term should have a chance to rectify that. Hoping Bill will respond. But he’s logged out so don’t know.

I’m not a Mod but I do believe we abide by the rules in the spirit of the community here.

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Jocke · 30 January 2018, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BillA

OP still has not produced a letter or concrete proof, I say TROLL.

You will never see those letters because AD's have stricktly instructions not to show them for someone outside the company.
Some AD's speak about the content in the letter but the most don't.

So let the time tell, do you have any proof Gererdo is a troll?

Maybe he looks like a troll (yes I have seen him) but that is not enough.

JacksonStone · 30 January 2018, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Duey

How about new sports models coming out? Not just movements.
Look at the patents over the last few years - They are for New models

When you're making new stuff it's kind of hard to keep making the old stuff to keep up with demand.

2017 shows a New full glow bezel
2015 shows a new GMT (pic below)

Interesting. It's too bad this got lost in the "troll" shuffle. Sometimes companies file patents to protect ideas they're considering but may or may not implement or market. Even if they decide not to market the idea, it prevents other companies from using that technology for a couple decades. Conversely, it could be a sign of things to come.

With the current six-digit models, the GMT debuted first (in 2005), followed by the Submariner Date (in 2008), and metal grades were staggered over the succeeding years. Nobody knows if Rolex will follow the same pattern with the next round of designs, but a new GMT patented in 2015 might be ripe for debut in 2018. Kicking off the sports redesigns with the GMT would follow the previous pattern, too. And yeah...facilities busy making new designs wouldn't be making the old ones.

GeeRam · 30 January 2018, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JacksonStone

With the current six-digit models, the GMT debuted first (in 2005), followed by the Submariner Date (in 2008)

Six digit SubC debuted in 2010, not 2008.

JacksonStone · 30 January 2018, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GeeRam

Six digit SubC debuted in 2010, not 2008.

WG Smurf debuted in 2008. TT and YG were in 2009. SS debuted in 2010. No-date debuted in 2012.

GerardoG · 30 January 2018, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

You will never see those letters because AD's have stricktly instructions not to show them for someone outside the company.
Some AD's speak about the content in the letter but the most don't.

So let the time tell, do you have any proof Gererdo is a troll?

Maybe he looks like a troll (yes I have seen him) but that is not enough.

Sprta · 30 January 2018, 07:10 AM

In the last three days two of my ADs have received shipments. Many of the hard to get ones addressed by the OP Were included in the shipments including two Hulks.
None of them teceived any letter

gegarrenton · 30 January 2018, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Sprta

In the last three days two of my ADs have received shipments. Many of the hard to get ones addressed by the OP Were included in the shipments including two Hulks.
None of them teceived any letter

Apparently a lot of shipments are coming in this week. My AD is getting one as well.

That doesn't really have any bearing on what the OP is talking about though.

Canefan1 · 30 January 2018, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BillA

OP still has not produced a letter or concrete proof, I say TROLL.

If I’m not mistaken,the OP was a personal guest of Rolex for the ‘17 US Open and has a great relationship the a very popular AD with several locations in Texas as well as others I would imagine. The description of Troll associated with Gerardo is uncalled for.

Sprta · 30 January 2018, 07:18 AM

The word Confirmed I feel caused all the ruckus. Based on what I have read this is far from being confirmed. Had the OP stated what he felt is happening based on his contacts and excellent reputation, this would not have been so controversial.

riverrat · 30 January 2018, 07:21 AM

To the posts above, I just got confirmation of another shipment coming in this week although she doesn't have a clue whats on it. I hope its a BLNR and then Im done. I hope.

Sprta · 30 January 2018, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gegarrenton

Apparently a lot of shipments are coming in this week. My AD is getting one as well.

That doesn't really have any bearing on what the OP is talking about though.

Not sure I understand your comment having no bearing, the OP stated they were cutting back on the watches mentioned in the post and now they are showing up more so than in the past few months.

GerardoG · 30 January 2018, 07:28 AM

Oh well. Some people will never be able to have a TRUSTING relationship with company owners, VPs or members of the board; they will always need ‘a physical copy’ of everything discussed.

TRUST does NOT work that way.

Do not believe me? I do respect that, you are entitled to your opinion; but what do I ‘win’ by stating false information?

To all haters: sorry, keep hating, do not trust anything you read and go on. Oh, and bring a lawyer or a notary to have ‘proof’ of everything.

Everyone else, interesting comments/opinions.

gegarrenton · 30 January 2018, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sprta

Not sure I understand your comment having no bearing, the OP stated they were cutting back on the watches mentioned in the post and now they are showing up more so than in the past few months.

What's happening this week is irrelevant, those watches were already made. This is something you will find out over the next few months to a year. Not to mention a statistically nonexistent sample size.

oldman2005 · 30 January 2018, 07:40 AM

Trudat...The total production output for 2018 would be less than 2017. How much less? Nobody knows except Rolex upper management.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gegarrenton

What's happening this week is irrelevant, those watches were already made. This is something you will find out over the next few months to a year. Not to mention a statistically nonexistent sample size.

GerardoG · 30 January 2018, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

570 posts, over 30,000 views, and when I start a thread I'm lucky to get three replies!

...maybe a picture of Ana would help?

crazycarlitos · 30 January 2018, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GerardoG

Oh well. Some people will never be able to have a TRUSTING relationship with company owners, VPs or members of the board; they will always need ‘a physical copy’ of everything discussed.

TRUST does NOT work that way.

Do not believe me? I do respect that, you are entitled to your opinion; but what do I ‘win’ by stating false information?

To all haters: sorry, keep hating, do not trust anything you read and go on. Oh, and bring a lawyer or a notary to have ‘proof’ of everything.

Everyone else, interesting comments/opinions.

Lol. Don’t even pay attention to the ones that argue with their opinions.

Thanks for sharing G

Let’s see how it plays out this year.

Wcdhtwn · 30 January 2018, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by yessir69

Everyone seems to be focused on the "why".

If you're already a Rolex owner, wouldn't you be glad about this? The product just became more exclusive and harder to get. Since there will be less product, if the demand stays high, the value of existing (used) products will rise.

Well, the main point of this board isn’t really about the Rolexes we have, it’s mostly about the ones we want. If we can’t get them we are NOT happy!!!

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nyc2la · 30 January 2018, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BillA

OP still has not produced a letter or concrete proof, I say TROLL.

Well, that (^^^) was completely unnecessary.

mailman · 30 January 2018, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillA

OP still has not produced a letter or concrete proof, I say TROLL.

Others have said they’re being trolled. This crosses the line. Next time the member might not be so lucky as to only get an infraction.

G8RDPM · 30 January 2018, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BillA

OP still has not produced a letter or concrete proof, I say TROLL.

Troll??? who has over 27k posts and puts together multiple international get togethers for the amazing people on this forum. We meet with watch manufacturers and dealers because of his passion for watches.
I know G very well. He is a lot of things,but not a troll!

returntorolex · 30 January 2018, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by G8RDPM

Troll??? who has over 27k posts and puts together multiple international get togethers for the amazing people on this forum. We meet with watch manufacturers and dealers because of his passion for watches.
I know G very well. He is a lot of things,but not a troll!

Tantalizing
Regurgitation
Of
Lively
Lamenting

nyc2la · 30 January 2018, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by returntorolex

Tantalizing

Regurgitation

Of

Lively

Lamenting

Tremendous
Resource
Of
Laughs (and)
Libations

returntorolex · 30 January 2018, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by nyc2la

Tremendous
Resource
Of
Laughs (and)
Libations

Thatguy · 30 January 2018, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G8RDPM

Troll??? who has over 27k posts and puts together multiple international get togethers for the amazing people on this forum. We meet with watch manufacturers and dealers because of his passion for watches.

I know G very well. He is a lot of things,but not a troll!

All that may have been just a set up for this thread all to make Paul jealous.

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nyc2la · 30 January 2018, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by returntorolex

Tantalizing

Regurgitation

Of

Lively

Lamenting

G8RDPM · 30 January 2018, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyc2la

Tremendous
Resource
Of
Laughs (and)
Libations

Steve and Steve know!:thumbsup!

Gaijin · 30 January 2018, 11:24 AM

Good Lord. Calling G a troll!? Or even inferring it!? There needs to be a middle finger emoji for a response to a post like that.

Mods, any chance to add one just for this thread only?

Just kidding. Kind of.

nyc2la · 30 January 2018, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaijin

Good Lord. Calling G a troll!? Or even inferring it!? There needs to be a middle finger emoji for a response to a post like that.

Mods, any chance to add one just for this thread only?

Just kidding. Kind of.

Awesome!

WJGESQ · 30 January 2018, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by henrylee

I guess ill have to start buying omegas now.

Omega--nothing wrong w that--particularly the PO and Speedy series.

30 January 2018, 07:10 AM	#577
Sprta "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: USA Posts: 457	In the last three days two of my ADs have received shipments. Many of the hard to get ones addressed by the OP Were included in the shipments including two Hulks. None of them teceived any letter

30 January 2018, 07:18 AM	#580
Sprta "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: USA Posts: 457	The word Confirmed I feel caused all the ruckus. Based on what I have read this is far from being confirmed. Had the OP stated what he felt is happening based on his contacts and excellent reputation, this would not have been so controversial.

30 January 2018, 07:21 AM	#581
riverrat "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Southeast US Posts: 74	To the posts above, I just got confirmation of another shipment coming in this week although she doesn't have a clue whats on it. I hope its a BLNR and then Im done. I hope.

30 January 2018, 07:28 AM	#583
GerardoG Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Real Name: Gerardo Location: Here Watch: ALL of them Posts: 32,098	Oh well. Some people will never be able to have a TRUSTING relationship with company owners, VPs or members of the board; they will always need ‘a physical copy’ of everything discussed. TRUST does NOT work that way. Do not believe me? I do respect that, you are entitled to your opinion; but what do I ‘win’ by stating false information? To all haters: sorry, keep hating, do not trust anything you read and go on. Oh, and bring a lawyer or a notary to have ‘proof’ of everything. Everyone else, interesting comments/opinions.

30 January 2018, 11:24 AM	#598
Gaijin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Japan Watch: ing your back. Posts: 16,179	Good Lord. Calling G a troll!? Or even inferring it!? There needs to be a middle finger emoji for a response to a post like that. Mods, any chance to add one just for this thread only? Just kidding. Kind of.

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