32xx movement problem poll and data thread

[WastedYears]

Originally Posted by KKholiday77

Does anyone know what the problem actually is? Has anyone received their watch back after regulation with tech at AD or even back from RSC with a description of the correction? Wondering how many just needed to be regulated vs sent on for further warranty work.

I sent my BLRO in under warranty and got it back again with a note saying that parts were replaced. I tried to find out exactly what parts were replaced, but apparently Rolex does not give out that information.

I have yet to put it back on a timegrapher to check the post-service numbers, but I will add those numbers to this thread when they're available.

[Michael N Q8]

As noted previously, my 2018 BLRO definitely had this problem and I previously posted my results. It had a full service in February. I have used it on and off since the service and clearly there is a big improvement. It is gaining time slightly, within the spec. I have commenced measuring the performance using the app, and the first set of readings is shown on the pic. I will update accordingly…





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[saxo3]

Originally Posted by Michael N Q8

As noted previously, my 2018 BLRO definitely had this problem and I previously posted my results. It had a full service in February. I have used it on and off since the service and clearly there is a big improvement. It is gaining time slightly, within the spec. I have commenced measuring the performance using the app, and the first set of readings is shown on the pic. I will update accordingly…

Thanks Michael for coming back.
I assume you are running now a PR test with fixed DU position.
Your data table surprises me. For all my measured calibers (15xx, 31xx, 32xx) I have never seen that amplitudes in vertical position(s) are higher than in horizontal. Your amplitude values (316, 323, 335) are outside Rokex specs (310 max).
Apps are tricky to use since they are very sensitive to external noise and position of the microphone; a professional timegrapher is much more reliable, I'm sure you know.

[CharlesN]

Originally Posted by saxo3

Apps are tricky to use since they are very sensitive to external noise and position of the microphone; a professional timegrapher is much more reliable, I'm sure you know.

What App is this thats being used ? Just an app or do i need more ? Is it an iphone app ?

It might also be interesting to run the same test at the same time with a timegrapher and the App

we would see the difference.

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by CharlesN

What App is this thats being used ? Just an app or do i need more ? Is it an iphone app ?

It might also be interesting to run the same test at the same time with a timegrapher and the App

we would see the difference.

Watch Tuner Timegrapher (available in App Store), see posts #56, #129.

You have a timegrapher, it makes no sense to use an App in parallel (same time).

Instead you can use Watch Tracker (available in App Store) which is good for timekeeping.

Example for 2 measurements at the same time.
Red data: timegrapher, blue data: Watch Tracker

[Michael N Q8]

Originally Posted by saxo3

Thanks Michael for coming back.
I assume you are running now a PR test with fixed DU position.
Your data table surprises me. For all my measured calibers (15xx, 31xx, 32xx) I have never seen that amplitudes in vertical position(s) are higher than in horizontal. Your amplitude values (316, 323, 335) are outside Rokex specs (310 max).
Apps are tricky to use since they are very sensitive to external noise and position of the microphone; a professional timegrapher is much more reliable, I'm sure you know.

I am sure the app is not giving accurate results, specifically with the amplitudes. However, I have noticed that the readings seem to be reasonable for my other 31XX and other brands. Maybe the 32XX has peculiarities that cause this. Anyway, the watch is still gaining a bit within the specs...

[CharlesN]

I have the App Toolwatch. It is quite good.

Now i will get Watch Tracker. It looks pretty good and useful.

But ill not do anything until I have finished the current single position (Dial Up) from Full wind to stop monitoring.

[CharlesN]

My wife has just asked me if I love her anymore as i seem to be spending an awful lot of time in my "Hobby room" playing with my watches and timing them on my new watchtimer (Toy as she describes it).
She was thinking maybe i have a new girlfriend in my room. She realised that was not true as i come out so often to use my computer to post comments here.

To please her i did tell her that my watch power runs out after about 74 hours and i promised to pay more attention to her. She does deserve a lot of attention - She is so very good to me.

We have agreed that Illm only go into my room to copy down the tracking results and ill post them up when i have done a sufficient number so there is something to see.

I was warned by someone (saxo3) that this timing can become addictive .. It really has already.

[thorm]

My timekeeping with the OP36 126000 is around +0.2sec to +0.5sec per day when wearing it.

+0.5 to +0.8 when standing still dial up.
-0.1 to +0.0 when dial down

+0.2 to +0.3 when 3-o'clock down
+0.3 to +0.4 when 9-o'clock down
+0.2 to +0.5 when 12-o'clock down
+0.1 to +0.2 when 6-o'clocl down

All positions were tested for 4-7 days each

I don't have any way of seeing the amp, but I'm using the WatchCheck app on my phone to measure precision.

What do you guys think? Seems ok to me if it does not lose or gain even a single second per day

[saxo3]

@thorm. Absolutely perfect timekeeping!
Watch reference and purchase date?

[thorm]

Originally Posted by saxo3

@thorm. Absolutely perfect timekeeping!
Watch reference and purchase date?

OP36mm 126000, purchased oct 2020

[CharlesN]

Originally Posted by thorm

OP36mm 126000

I Think its a 3230 movement.

GREAT accuracy These 32xx movements really do seem to be good and a lot better than their predecessors ay time keeping.

[thorm]

Originally Posted by CharlesN

I Think its a 3230 movement.

GREAT accuracy These 32xx movements really do seem to be good and a lot better than their predecessors ay time keeping.

Yes 3230.
It does keep better timekeeping than my 3130, which was around +1.5 to +2 seconds per day

[francis]

Originally Posted by CharlesN

I Think its a 3230 movement.

GREAT accuracy These 32xx movements really do seem to be good and a lot better than their predecessors ay time keeping.

My new datejust was losing 30 seconds a day. Absolutely none of my older rolex watches are + or - even 2 seconds. I have a bunch as well with an array of movements. 32xx is crap from my perspective.


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[CharlesN]

Originally Posted by francis

My new datejust was losing 30 seconds a day. Absolutely none of my older rolex watches are + or - even 2 seconds. I have a bunch as well with an array of movements. 32xx is crap from my perspective.


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I noticed you said WAS losing 30 seconds a day.
from New ?
I am sure the RSC managed to correct the error quite painlessly.
Can you give us more detail.

[CharlesN]

Have faith.

It is probably fine now.

[francis]

Originally Posted by CharlesN

Have faith.

It is probably fine now.

Probably. But with rolex I didn’t expect a probably. I would expect that out of a Vostok


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[thorm]

Originally Posted by francis

Probably. But with rolex I didn’t expect a probably. I would expect that out of a Vostok


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I would bet that there are less watches sent in with issues with rolex than with other brands, in percentage.

[francis]

Originally Posted by thorm

I would bet that there are less watches sent in with issues with rolex than with other brands, in percentage.

Nah. Not with these 32xx series movement. AD says they are taking them back pretty regularly


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[thorm]

Originally Posted by francis

Nah. Not with these 32xx series movement. AD says they are taking them back pretty regularly


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My AD says they take in omegas and JLCs pretty regularly. In fact they probably take in everything quite regularly.

[Slimpee]

My DJ 41, purchased around 12/2018, has been running slow. I got it on a timegrapher today:

Depending on the position of the watch, the timekeeping was around -19, -20 seconds/day. Amplitude around 155-160. Lift angle of 52 deg.

A trip to the AD is in my near future.

[CharlesN]

Originally Posted by Slimpee

My DJ 41, purchased around 12/2018, has been running slow. I got it on a timegrapher today:

Depending on the position of the watch, the timekeeping was around -19, -20 seconds/day. Amplitude around 155-160. Lift angle of 52 deg.

A trip to the AD is in my near future.

If it has a 32xx movement then you will
Probably need to remeasure at 53 degrees. The results can be quite different I found

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by CharlesN

If it has a 32xx movement then you will
Probably need to remeasure at 53 degrees. The results can be quite different I found

The DJ 41 (Ref. 126333) has a 3235 caliber. The amplitude difference between 52 and 53 lift angle is about + 6 degrees, which is negligible for Slimpee's watch (-19 s/d, 160 degrees).

[Slimpee]

Originally Posted by saxo3

The DJ 41 (Ref. 126333) has a 3235 caliber. The amplitude difference between 52 and 53 lift angle is about + 6 degrees, which is negligible for Slimpee's watch (-19 s/d, 160 degrees).

Thank you for clarification. I do not know much about these measurements but I may get a timegrapher and learn.

That said, I set the watch according to www.time.gov and can see that it's substantially slow so the measurements tend to validate what i'm seeing.

I'm taking it to the AD tomorrow and will update when I hear something.

[Michael N Q8]

Herewith, the readings from last night.



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[saxo3]

Originally Posted by Michael N Q8

Herewith, the readings from last night.

Last night (8:33 PM) you did another full winding as indicated in the table?

For the rates, I would neglect the 12U data and calculate the 5 position averages to X = 1,6 and X = 0,5 s/d.

[Michael N Q8]

Originally Posted by saxo3

Last night (8:33 PM) you did another full winding as indicated in the table?

No, I should have updated that, I'm leaving it to run down to see how it changes.

Originally Posted by saxo3

For the rates, I would neglect the 12U data and calculate the 5 position averages to X = 1,6 and X = 0,5 s/d.

Ok, I will follow the rate advice. thanks.

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by Michael N Q8

Ok, I will follow the rate advice. thanks.

The investment for a (standard) timegrapher compared to the cost of 1 watch is negligible ;-)

[CharlesN]

Originally Posted by saxo3

The investment for a (standard) timegrapher compared to the cost of 1 watch is negligible ;-)

I recently bought mine from Amazon. (Timegrapher model 1900)

the cost: (All are approximate exchange rates)
UK £120
USD 165
CHF 152
EU 138
KWD 47

They are worth every penny/cent.

The fun alone makes it a worthwhile addition.
The knowledge you can gain about your watch is immense.

In other words ......... What are you waiting for ?

Incidentally, The more of us who have these and take part in comparing readings any faults etc soon start to come to light.

[Michael N Q8]

And a graph with trends



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