The H. Moser Thread

[Gebbeth]

Good idea, but not sure about the execution.

[daytonadweller]

Originally Posted by Gebbeth

Good idea, but not sure about the execution.

I'm a fan. Eager to see it in person! (Not buying one... $23k is too much... But still want to see it )

[Gebbeth]

Originally Posted by daytonadweller

I'm a fan. Eager to see it in person! (Not buying one... $23k is too much... But still want to see it )

I guess I don't get the retrograde execution. If it's a seconds retrograde, might as well make it 60 seconds.

[enjoythemusic]

Interesting twist, kinda mesmerizing i bet.

[adamegret]

Originally Posted by Gebbeth

I guess I don't get the retrograde execution. If it's a seconds retrograde, might as well make it 60 seconds.

Twice the fun in the same amount of time seems alright to me haha.

[RTG]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Interesting twist, kinda mesmerizing i bet.

Agreed, like the tourbillon in that sense.

Not loving it in pictures but I bet that may change when I can try one on.

[PhilLynott]

I like it a lot and just excitedly looked to see if it was in the 40mm case but alas it's the 43mm one. Still going to try to see in person but typically not the size for me.

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by RTG

Agreed, like the tourbillon in that sense.

Not loving it in pictures but I bet that may change when I can try one on.

Am sure we can all agree the movement looks exquisite. Video of it in action. Looks like fun to me


Plus i like the 'smile'. H. Moser should produce a version where the seconds 'smile / lips' are part of a Fun Face (clown eyes, etc) on the mid-upper dial. The seconds hand could be a tongue... and spinning clown nose as the 30-second jump bit.

[Gebbeth]

As another aside, Mosers need more bracelets on their models.

[PinKchampagnE]

Originally Posted by Gebbeth

As another aside, Mosers need more bracelets on their models.

For the price they charge, those bracelets are a bit embarrassing. At least they are comfortable.

[dmottley]

I love Moser, but the retrograde seconds breaks up the dial too much for me.

[usmc_k9_vet]

Originally Posted by PinKchampagnE

For the price they charge, those bracelets are a bit embarrassing. At least they are comfortable.

Embarrassing in what way? The bracelet offered on the Pioneer is made by a company that makes them for other companies as well, and they’re built like a tank. The bracelet on the Streamliner is one of the best bracelets on the market. I could see people not liking it aesthetically and perhaps not liking that it does not have micro adjust, but it is extremely well made, supple, comfortable, and well-finished.


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[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by usmc_k9_vet

...they’re built like a tank. The bracelet on the Streamliner is one of the best bracelets on the market. I could see people not liking it aesthetically and perhaps not liking that it does not have micro adjust, but it is extremely well made, supple, comfortable, and well-finished.

Tried one on once... and very much looking forward for the Purple Haze to be my daily. Once it arrives I'll gladly compare it to various others. Have read it is better than the PP Naut. There is quite a bit to the H. Moser Streamliner bracelet, am sure you've seen it in person... so yeah it could be a style choice.

First time i saw the rg Vanta dial Tourbillon my jaw dropped. Imho you really need to see the 3D proportions and light-play with your own eyes. And try it on of course.

jmho

[PinKchampagnE]

Originally Posted by usmc_k9_vet

Embarrassing in what way? The bracelet offered on the Pioneer is made by a company that makes them for other companies as well, and they’re built like a tank. The bracelet on the Streamliner is one of the best bracelets on the market. I could see people not liking it aesthetically and perhaps not liking that it does not have micro adjust, but it is extremely well made, supple, comfortable, and well-finished.


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Indeed but it is quite literally just a piece of rubber.

[usmc_k9_vet]

Originally Posted by PinKchampagnE

Indeed but it is quite literally just a piece of rubber.

Ah so you are referring to their rubber strap with pin buckle, not the metal bracelets that they offer. I will concede that their rubber straps are, as you say, “quite literally just a piece of rubber”, however it is an extremely supple piece of rubber and I really like the robust pin buckle that is offered on it. Many prefer deployant clasps, however I usually prefer a pin buckle as it lies much flatter and is much less bulky.


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[Gebbeth]

Originally Posted by usmc_k9_vet

Ah so you are referring to their rubber strap with pin buckle, not the metal bracelets that they offer. I will concede that their rubber straps are, as you say, “quite literally just a piece of rubber”, however it is an extremely supple piece of rubber and I really like the robust pin buckle that is offered on it. Many prefer deployant clasps, however I usually prefer a pin buckle as it lies much flatter and is much less bulky.


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Oh, so by "bracelet" he meant rubber strap?

I thought Moser bracelets on the Pioneer are made by Brogioli, who makes the same style to IWC, GO, and Lange, among others.

[sinkholeninja]

New special editions for Bucherer:

https://monochrome-watches.com/a-new...-for-bucherer/

[usmc_k9_vet]

Originally Posted by sinkholeninja

New special editions for Bucherer:

https://monochrome-watches.com/a-new...-for-bucherer/

Those dials look really good. Very strange that on the Pioneer Centre Seconds 40mm they went with the now old HMC 200 instead of the updated movement. Why would they do that? Perhaps the plans for these were already established before the release of the updated movement? Even if that were the case, it seems they should have updated the plans to include the updated movement.


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[ap1]

Originally Posted by usmc_k9_vet

Those dials look really good. Very strange that on the Pioneer Centre Seconds 40mm they went with the now old HMC 200 instead of the updated movement. Why would they do that? Perhaps the plans for these were already established before the release of the updated movement? Even if that were the case, it seems they should have updated the plans to include the updated movement.


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I thought the same. They didn’t backwards price to 14,300 lol. It looks like the enamel dials of some of the endeavors but they mustn’t be given their pricing. I’d like to see the color tone IRL to really pass judgement. The rubber is a military green it appears which may be cool.

[usmc_k9_vet]

Originally Posted by ap1

I thought the same. They didn’t backwards price to 14,300 lol. It looks like the enamel dials of some of the endeavors but they mustn’t be given their pricing. I’d like to see the color tone IRL to really pass judgement. The rubber is a military green it appears which may be cool.

I didn’t even catch the military green rubber straps. Good eye. To me these look great. I’ll take the minute repeater piece unique please!


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[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by usmc_k9_vet

agree, the old HMC 200 sems out of place..... which is interesting when you figure how new it really is.

Must be a great new HMC 201 movement to cause such a fuss. My blue Heritage has the 200 and it looks more appropriate on that timepiece imho.

[ChetBaker]

Can Moser please please stop releasing the one new limited edition/dial color after the other and focus on finishing and value retention instead. I have already sold my streamliner chrono and the way it’s going my endeavour perpetual is on it’s way out too.

[gliazzurri]

Originally Posted by ChetBaker

Can Moser please please stop releasing the one new limited edition/dial color after the other and focus on finishing and value retention instead. I have already sold my streamliner chrono and the way it’s going my endeavour perpetual is on it’s way out too.

Yes this is why I sold all of mine. Lost exclusivity.

[NardinNut]

I absolutely love this…. Except the movement (and thickness caused by the modular movement). I would be a buyer if it was an integrated movement.


https://monochrome-watches.com/intro...d-specs-price/

[FrugalGreubel]

Originally Posted by NardinNut

I absolutely love this…. Except the movement (and thickness caused by the modular movement). I would be a buyer if it was an integrated movement.


https://monochrome-watches.com/intro...d-specs-price/

Looks pretty nice but I just can’t ever get on board with the numbers being cut off on the dial. It always looks silly to me.

[enjoythemusic]

[ChetBaker]

It's a good looking watch - but the modular movement gives me pause. It also reminds me of the Blancpain Air Command standard issue blue dial, which has a much finer movement and can be had for significantly less.

[RTG]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Am sure we can all agree the movement looks exquisite. Video of it in action. Looks like fun to me


Plus i like the 'smile'. H. Moser should produce a version where the seconds 'smile / lips' are part of a Fun Face (clown eyes, etc) on the mid-upper dial. The seconds hand could be a tongue... and spinning clown nose as the 30-second jump bit.

Thanks for posting that video. I love it. Could pass some time watching that for sure.

[Guppydriver]

Originally Posted by ChetBaker

It's a good looking watch - but the modular movement gives me pause. It also reminds me of the Blancpain Air Command standard issue blue dial, which has a much finer movement and can be had for significantly less.

Same same..

That’s exactly how I felt about the Breguet Type XX when I saw it. I could get a mint pre owned Air Command in rose gold for the same price as a Type XX and not have to look at the horrific date placement. (Although I do prefer the 12 hour bezel of the Breguet).

[Gebbeth]

Another odd choice with a 45 minute counter. Hmmm.....why 45?