Patek Philippe 5070 R

[kle]

The watch is pretty. But to me, the dial looks a bit too busy to my liking. The minute hand is curved down a bit like GS. The recent GS Spring Drive range is better I think. PP is absolutely the sought after watch as the whole but the GS is good value for money. One more thing, only 24 jewels in the watch of 50k pounds. I am not sure how reliable the movement is but paying that sort of money I expect a bit more than 24 jewels. Is it as tough as the GS chronograph?

[johnswatch]

Wow, this is the funniest thread I've read in ages.

Rolex owners slating a watch collector for spending too much on a watch. 'If I had that sort of money' etc etc.


Take a deep breath and perhaps visit some of the other watch forums where you'll read posters saying that to spend that much on a Rolex you must be either A.) Mentally impaired or B.) Unbelievably wealthy or C.) Both.

You can't justify Rolex prices by talking about quality, neither can you justify Patek prices by the same measure.

Is the Patek as robust as a Seiko chrono? Probably. Why wouldn't it be?

Anyway, the Patek chrono is probably the nicest watch I've ever seen. It is a piece of beautiful artful design. It is in this capacity it needs to be considered - as art not purely timepiece.

Congratulations on your purchase it is truly stunning.

[topcat30093]

Originally Posted by kle

The watch is pretty. But to me, the dial looks a bit too busy to my liking. The minute hand is curved down a bit like GS. The recent GS Spring Drive range is better I think. PP is absolutely the sought after watch as the whole but the GS is good value for money. One more thing, only 24 jewels in the watch of 50k pounds. I am not sure how reliable the movement is but paying that sort of money I expect a bit more than 24 jewels. Is it as tough as the GS chronograph?

Kle

May I respectfully suggest that you do some further research on the Patek Philippe brand?

If you do you will see that the 5070 was fitted with one on the most robust and beautiful movements in a chronograph ever created.
It was not an in house movement but was made by the famous "Lemania" brand.

The number of jewels fitted to a movement does not mean that it is a better or more complicated one.
In this day and age when manufacture's are working with silicon to help extend the wear and tear on a movement, you will find very few jewels.
In fact now a days a jewel may only be there to make the movemment more photogenic!!

The movement that is fitted to a Spring Drive is quite nice, but it can in NO way compare to the finish of movements that crafted to the degree that a Patek is.

This is just my humble opinion.

[sambb]

for me, without a date, i dont like the pp
and i like the lange datograph better as a chrono

the pp is nice, but i own a very nice patek, and to be honest, it is often more trouble than it is worth...
this is why, after owning breguet, lange, and patek, i am back to rolex...

[onkyo]

The 5070P is one of the most beautiful watches I have ever seen....

I would love to own one.

[kle]

Originally Posted by topcat30093

Kle

May I respectfully suggest that you do some further research on the Patek Philippe brand?

If you do you will see that the 5070 was fitted with one on the most robust and beautiful movements in a chronograph ever created.
It was not an in house movement but was made by the famous "Lemania" brand.

The number of jewels fitted to a movement does not mean that it is a better or more complicated one.
In this day and age when manufacture's are working with silicon to help extend the wear and tear on a movement, you will find very few jewels.
In fact now a days a jewel may only be there to make the movemment more photogenic!!

The movement that is fitted to a Spring Drive is quite nice, but it can in NO way compare to the finish of movements that crafted to the degree that a Patek is.

This is just my humble opinion.

Thanks for your posting. I agree the PP is one of the most sought after brands in the world. It is really dependent on what you look for. The PP movement at the back is really stunning, I agree. Most believe that Swiss watches are the "gods" of watches. PP is smart in a way that they hand built very limited editions of their ranges. The limitedness plus the myth of Swiss watches thus making PP the most sought after. Quality, theoretically, it "must" be there if you pay that much of money. But???? Is it always the case? However you cannot really cross out the GS. Just a thought. Cheers.

[kyle L]

Originally Posted by kle

Thanks for your posting. I agree the PP is one of the most sought after brands in the world. It is really dependent on what you look for. The PP movement at the back is really stunning, I agree. Most believe that Swiss watches are the "gods" of watches. PP is smart in a way that they hand built very limited editions of their ranges. The limitedness plus the myth of Swiss watches thus making PP the most sought after. Quality, theoretically, it "must" be there if you pay that much of money. But???? Is it always the case? However you cannot really cross out the GS. Just a thought. Cheers.

The GS is stunning and very respected, but comparing the two watches is kind of like comparing apple to oranges.

[rpryan55]

I'm afraid I'm not aware of what GS stands for....

[kle]

Originally Posted by kyle L

The GS is stunning and very respected, but comparing the two watches is kind of like comparing apple to oranges.

Yes, you are right. Like a Ferrari and a Lexus ;) GS = Grand Seiko.

[L-16610]

I LOVE this watch !!!!!!!!!

can somebody post some pictures of the Yellow gold 5070 ?

[erolorhun]

Incredibly classy. Epic watch

[PerfectTiming]

If ONLY I could afford it. Beautiful watch AND pics.. thanks for sharing!

[Deyn Man]

awesome watch!!!!
but need to get a house 1st and a nice car before investing in one...
in time...

[AAMD11]

Great Patek, but Patek in itself is not for me, I prefer AP

[hennabav]

That is gorgeous no doubt...would be more gorgeous if my wallet permits me from making such a purchase!!

[HL65]

Oh man--I think I want one!!!! Another Grail...Sweet!!

[welem]

simply stunning, a watch truly worthy of being a true grail watch for me!

[LordNinja]

Originally Posted by unclesallie

Of course, the displayed patek chronograph is beautiful. first, i'm not a great fans of chronographs. but let's talk calatreva, with a sweep hand(i think last year was last time they will manufacture the calatreva with a sweep hand....for the privilege of that sweep hand, costs about $16,000.00, as opposed to the calatreva without which(was) about $12,000 or $14,000.00)...so, let's ask this question? if you want a repair on a patek where do you go? who repairs em outside switzerland? how do they stand up to shock, water, temperature variations? i guess some of their movements are curved which is a real feat, and makes them instant collectables....but some of the watches in the $70K range are just downright ugly. so yeah, i'd like a calatreva with a sweep hand, but all in all, i prefer rolex because they do withstand a beating, hold their value, are readily repaired, and they do withstand all kinds of temperature variations and water exposures....so give me rolex.

Reminds me of the 27,000 dollar tire change after a flat on a certain car make a friend was just telling me about... Good questions, I wonder what the services cost relative to my Rolex..

[Route 66]

Beautiful, inside and out.

[RRM1020]

Originally Posted by greenfan

I´d rather buy a house...

I totally agree with you.
But if someone offered me this watch for all of mine (7) I would give it some thought - after making a value comparison.

[RRM1020]

Originally Posted by boa2

I love the YG, though some here might find the white gold (or platinum) to be more subtle.

Stunning pieces.
For a similar look Cartier has the new Calibre. Sort of similar look. I have only seen them online.

[watchteacher]

Originally Posted by padi56

Patek Philippe used a Nouvelle Lémania calibre ebauche produced exclusively for Patek as a Base for there CH 27-70 Manual wind chronographs .But now since around 2005 they produce there own chronograph and flyback movements great watch but not a huge gold or a huge Patek fan, admire there movement but not some of there style.

Not true. My Breguet ref 3237 uses the same base movement, and now of course Lemania doesn't exist except as part of Breguet. Patek did make many changes to the Lemania movement, not the least was changing the balance wheel and hairspring.

[paverman]

Well, in hindsight, I wish I would have bought one for my collection before they were discontinued. Truely a beautiful watch.

[rolexdeepsea]

beautiful watch i love patek

[dddrees]

Stunning Watch.

The gold is just perfect for this watch.

PP realy make some wonderfull looking watches.

I fell in luv with their perpetual calendar,but this one looks amazing as well.

[al_mal001]

What a beautiful watch! Thank you for showing.

[learnmore60]

Pictures dont do it justice really...

I've been thinking for a long time what would be the ideal reference to get as my first Patek watch...
I'm a great fan of Vintage Rolex's and AP's but really wanted to a get a nice Patek... and with so many choices it was confusing...

I wanted a watch that was not too classic looking and the new 5936 WG & 5205 (grey dial) seemed the favourite contenders. I was also considering the 5712 WG and the 5960P though a lot more expensive.

But after much thought, I decided in the end to go with the 5070 WG!

I thought if Im getting a Patek, I would like it to hold its value and I thought the 5070 would be a good choice. I also like the large case size of this watch and its design can go great with suits or semi casual attire.

Since its been discontinued for some time i needed to find a pre-owned one but wanted a sealed new piece. So I flew down on the weekend to the Parma Fair in Italy and found one gorgeous new piece!! And am really happy with my ultimate choice... hope you like the pics!

best

[Route 66]

That's not a watch!

That's ART.

Exquisite.

[mask1196]

Long live the 5070G!!!

[hanto]

Wow it's a dream watch!