SCAMMER ALERT!!! Bassethounds (Tristan Travaesier....or whatever his real name is?))

[fernango]

Wasn´t he a very active member in WatchOut section of RolexForums?

[esm]

Originally Posted by fernango

Wasn´t he a very active member in WatchOut section of RolexForums?

suppose he knew all the "tools of the trade" hey.... he was asked to be the Watchout guy at the other forum before he got banned for previous 2 incidents involving 2 TRF members

[mpkRolex]

Sorry to hear about your $ loss Glenn. This just tells you that trust no one until you have done your research..I hope you recover your money soon. That guy will pay..be sure of it

[GlennW]

Here is a list of events leading up to today.

6/18/10 - I send Tristan $500 via Paypal for a Tudor Heritage grey dial that he tells people that he can get. *Update* - my credit card company was able to recover the $500 for me from Paypal.

7/26/10 - I wire $3142 to Tristan's wife's account ($3500 for the Tudor Heritage and $142 for 3 set's of endlinks (501b, 380, and 580). He tells me that his uncle will ship me the watch from Los Angeles the foloowing week Monday.

Between 7/26/10 - 9/01/10 I get a whole bunch of run around from Tristan about his uncle shipping the watch and he finally admits that he was lying to me about shipping the watch!!! This comes about after Stevo exposes him on the forum.

9/3/10 - After more run around and Tristan unable to come up with a tracking number, I tell him that I want a refund immediately.

9/17/10 - Here is the email exchange between Tristan and I....what a joke.



2010/9/17 Glenn Wilbourn <[email protected]>
Like the watch, there is no money and proof that it was ever sent.

I no longer want to play this game....it won't make me feel any better about being scammed out of $3642, but if you will read any of the major forums in the next couple of days I will be posting our story. I have now accepted the fact that I will never see my money again....sad day, but I hope that I can help prevent something like this from happening to someone else.


On Sep 17, 2010, at 8:46 PM, Tristan Traversier wrote:

Hi Glenn

Glad the mail got to you . I will have access to my normal mail from monday morning : Can you please give me a phone number . I would like to talk to you . I'm having serious professional set backs and we have been told that the Iberian office will be closed due to poor performance . Spain and Portugal after Greece is economically the worst hit european countries . We have arrived in LA and monday we will officially be told that we are all "sacked" . I have spoken to my wife and the wire was still on hold for the simple reason that they are waiting for a check to clear as other wise there no enough funds .
We have not been paid for the month of september yet .
I understand how you are feeling :
Here is the only thing I can promise you : You will have the money in your account before the end of the month one way or the other . I can not stop you from posting whatever you want on any forum , but I will not speed up the recovery of your funds . Because one thing is sure you will recover your funds as I'm not a dishonest person , only caught up in a spiral of unfortunate events . I have been lied to , but I will not make you pay for it .
So , Glenn . Please be a little more patient . I was thinking to sent you my 1680 , but it will not be back from RSC till next month ( getting a service red fitted too ) . Any more posts on forums would not make any difference today or tomorrow .. but I do know now that I may have to sell the 1680 given the situation , and any more bad pub would not help me getting good money for the 1680 next month . You can still post what you want after that time :
Here is my deadline offer : your 3650 usd in your account cleared before 1 october . and I offer you a BNIB 93150 for free as recognition for having been a friend and repair for what you had to endure .
I can not offer more with 100% certainty at this very moment . I can actually send the 93150 as soon I get back on wednesday .
So Glenn let's get out of this together without you loosing money , I just want to prove to the community that even I had great difficulty I'm not dishonest . Once this over I would be nice you did post a little thread along these lines . That there is no need to crucify people to obtain satisfaction .
What do you say ?
Do not get me wrong : I'm not saying .." if you post you can kiss your money goodbye" no whatever you post I will reimburse you as I'm not dishonest . Just in deep shit for the moment .
Furthermore I have my Olympic DJ that will be auctioned off at Sotheby's in HK on the 6th of Oct. I'm not counting on that to reimburse you as it may take up to 6 weeks after the auction to get the money if sold and reaches the reserve .

Please Glenn bare with me and let's work this out . Nothing is lost and certainly not your money . Just let's not make this harder as it already is .

Many kind regards

Tristan



10/6/10 - Tristan sends bogus wire info (confirmed by my bank today). Do you see a date or a physical bank address on this wire info...of course not, it's bogus.


El titular de la cuenta ES17 2038 9158 1630 0012 7XXX | CUENTAS , TRISTAN PAUL BOUCHEZ X01798816C :
Transferencia en divisas por un importe de 3.000,00 Dolar USA utilizando como divisa de envío Dolar USA
Concepto : REEMBOLSO TUDOR HERITAGE.
La transferencia se hará por orden de TRISTAN BOUCHEZ con documento Tarjeta de residenciaX2769881C
País de destino
El país destino de la transferencia: ESTADOS UNIDOS
Imputación de gastos
La imputación de gastos será Por cuenta del ordenante (OUR)
Datos del beneficiario
Nombre del beneficiario:GLENN WILBOURN
La cuenta de abono es:98-3 XXXX 1 # 121XXXX
País de residencia:ESTADOS UNIDOS
Datos del banco beneficiario
Clave SWIFT:FHBKUS77XXX
Nombre del banco:FIRST HAWAIIAN BANK
Dirección del banco:FLOOR 4:
Población del banco:HONOLULU
Condición de urgencia
La transferencia se hará efectiva en un plazo de 1 día (Urgente)
Comisión de la operación
Esta operación tiene una comisión de 36,00 Euros
La realización de esta operación está sujeta a comisiones disponibles en el apartado


As of 2pm Hawaii time today 10/6/10, there is still no wire from Tristan and I am still out $3142.

[mcjp6]

It is unbelievable, as evidenced in emails to Steve and Dalip - lie after lie after lie after lie .

How does this man sleep at night........

[fernango]

I remember the problems he have had with his stolen Daytona, so one of two things: his accounts have been hijacked or he has been building himself a reputation of a very and knowledgeable member forum to make the final jump to the dark side

[InVision]

Glenn, I am sorry that you have to experience this mess. Thanks for sharing. After the Stevo report back on 24 Aug I was skeptical. Many other users came to the table to help him then. No help this time. Report the incident to both sides law enforcement for the record.

Mike

[dalip]

Glenn. I am so sorry to hear of this. I thought this man had tried his luck but had been well and truly exposed and was out of all of our psyches. Clearly not.

I hope we can find a way to make this right for you.


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[theken]

Hello Glenn.
This is very sad story and I feel your pain.
I hope the bank officials in the USA and Spain will offer you some assistance.
Do you have a actual address for Tristan in Girona, Spain?
Maybe someone can visit with Tristan on your behalf to resolve this mess.
Hang in there, buddy!
Mark

[Dilemma]

Situations like this would just about force me into my old, long forgotten habits that caused me much grief in my young/dumb bullet-proof days.

Sorry this happened to you. I admire your ability to keep your composure.

[robertneville]

sorry to hear of your problems Glen. PM sent.

[1340jas]

I feel for you. That shouldn't happen, but does and the scammer knows he can get away with it as you are separated by thousnds of miles.

I have seen the thread on the other site which has got a few members asking for a reply from Tristran. He has failed to do so as of today.
Could one of the mods from this site talk with one of their mods? Perhaps they have contact details for the scum.
Even the smallest bit of info posted here could develop and help track him down.
I have some god ideas if we can sort out his real location.

[Art 1]

This, if true, is very sad.

I myself would never, ever buy an expensive item over the internet, especially from over seas from someone I don't know.

[davestan]

The guy appears a disgrace and totally untrustworthy. His words mean nothing! There would be enough identifying information from this Board to pass on to the law authorities. There are photos, and his address would be known by some members. You may be able to initiate some action from your country to his via law enforcement. The actions of people like this create sorrow for all Board members. Best wishes.

[dalip]

As you know I actually met this thief in Barcelona and he proceeded to rip me and my family off. The info is all on here.

I have been amazed to find him so warmly welcomed on another new forum. Especially when the scamming by this POS is well known by members there. But so be it.

The fact is he is still at it.

I do not have an actual address as I didn't write it down...why would I.

I did attend a local tennis club with him to watch the football and I am searching for that place. He frequents there.

There are many members who have his address on here... I am sure of that.

This needs to be handed over to the authorities...they can properly advise what the options may be.

[Lol-x]

Dalip, Glenn and myself....it's not confusing.

A wrench sent in the mail, speaks volumes here.

Other forums (you well know) welcome and give high praise to Bassethouds, holding him up as some kind of hero that 'got to me'.

That speaks volumes too.

[dalip]

Originally Posted by Lol-x

Dalip, Glenn and myself....it's not confusing.

A wrench sent in the mail, speaks volumes here.

Other forums (you well know) welcome and give high praise to Bassethouds, holding him up as some kind of hero that 'got to me'.

That speaks volumes too.

It does indeed.

[ducatidoc]

Originally Posted by Dr.Brian

A thread about this has been opened in a forum that he is active on.
We'll see what he has to say.
My money's on "stolen in transit". Because, of course, all mailmen know the value of an old steel bracelet. Just another unfortunate coincidence.
Let... the tap dancing... BEGIN!



And I thought I would never use that smiley.

Originally Posted by Dr.Brian

I can't say, but google could help ROLEX fans track this RENEGADE down and see what he has to say for himself.

Originally Posted by Lol-x

Dalip, Glenn and myself....it's not confusing.

A wrench sent in the mail, speaks volumes here.

Other forums (you well know) welcome and give high praise to Bassethouds, holding him up as some kind of hero that 'got to me'.

That speaks volumes too.

Originally Posted by dalip

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It does indeed.

Could somebody clarify this ? Are these posts related and/or interactive ? Thanks.

[Dr.Brian]

Originally Posted by ducatidoc

Could somebody clarify this ? Are these posts related and/or interactive ? Thanks.

Of course they are, he is banned from most watch forums for good reason, except one that I am aware of. If people want to hear his side of the story, and they probably do, thats where to find it. When he left initially, he still had friends here, people who thought that it was a misunderstanding gone bad. The more we hear, the worse it looks. His old friends still want to hear the other side of the story. Why should the place where he actively posts be a secret? Ashamed to have him?
It is interesting that the very negative comments about hoping that Tristan "really stuck it to Steve" etc have been removed by their poster over there.
Perhaps that indicates a recognition that this is far more serious than a petty argument between the mods and a few former members.
I actually would like to hear what be has to say for himself. I was one who publicly posted here suggesting that it was all likely a misunderstanding. He has no honor and will get no respect from me here, or elsewhere. If that means that I am not welcome on your pet forum, so be it. I was around long before it started, and I'll be around after it's gone too. This is not about TRF or your members feud with Steve, this is about exposing a confirmed deadbeat liar and driving him out of the places where he is a threat to the watch community. As long as he has other peoples money and/or property, calling credit card reversals reimbursement, etc that makes him a thief as well. One of your own was almost taken by this conman for the same Heritage Chrono, did you know that? He's a threat. Period.
I'm sure he's here and elsewhere already with a new identity, nothing can be done about that. But I don't want to knowingly engage in friendly banter with him either. Of course you're free to host him there as you all see fit. You're a bright guy, I'm sure you recall what happens when you lie with dogs.

[dalip]

Originally Posted by Dr.Brian

Of course they are, he is banned from most watch forums for good reason, except one that I am aware of. If people want to hear his side of the story, and they probably do, thats where to find it. When he left initially, he still had friends here, people who thought that it was a misunderstanding gone bad. The more we hear, the worse it looks. His old friends still want to hear the other side of the story. Why should the place where he actively posts be a secret? Ashamed to have him?
It is interesting that the very negative comments about hoping that Tristan "really stuck it to Steve" etc have been removed by their poster over there.
Perhaps that indicates a recognition that this is far more serious than a petty argument between the mods and a few former members.
I actually would like to hear what be has to say for himself. I was one who publicly posted here suggesting that it was all likely a misunderstanding. He has no honor and will get no respect from








me here, or elsewhere. If that means that I am not welcome on your pet forum, so be it. This is
not about
TRF or your feud, this is about exposing a confirmed deadbeat liar and driving him out of the places where he is a threat to the watch community. As long as he has other peoples money and/or property, calling credit card reversals reimbursement, etc that makes him a thief as well. One of your own was almost taken by this conman for the same Heritage Chrono, did you know that? He's a threat. Period.
I'm sure he's here and elsewhere already with a new identity, nothing can be done about that. But I don't want to knowingly engage in friendly banter with him either. Of course you're free to welcome him there as you all see fit.

I didn't know about these posts....



Personally there are some members over there such as yourself Doc (David) that I miss seeing

regularly over

here. That's why I was chatting there with you a bit.

But there is something underlying all this. And that stinks.

Sorry.

[ducatidoc]

Originally Posted by Dr.Brian

Of course they are, he is banned from most watch forums for good reason, except one that I am aware of. If people want to hear his side of the story, and they probably do, thats where to find it. When he left initially, he still had friends here, people who thought that it was a misunderstanding gone bad. The more we hear, the worse it looks. His old friends still want to hear the other side of the story. Why should the place where he actively posts be a secret? Ashamed to have him?
It is interesting that the very negative comments about hoping that Tristan "really stuck it to Steve" etc have been removed by their poster over there.
Perhaps that indicates a recognition that this is far more serious than a petty argument between the mods and a few former members.
I actually would like to hear what be has to say for himself. I was one who publicly posted here suggesting that it was all likely a misunderstanding. He has no honor and will get no respect from me here, or elsewhere. If that means that I am not welcome on your pet forum, so be it. I was around long before it started, and I'll be around after it's gone too. This is not about TRF or your members feud with Steve, this is about exposing a confirmed deadbeat liar and driving him out of the places where he is a threat to the watch community. As long as he has other peoples money and/or property, calling credit card reversals reimbursement, etc that makes him a thief as well. One of your own was almost taken by this conman for the same Heritage Chrono, did you know that? He's a threat. Period.
I'm sure he's here and elsewhere already with a new identity, nothing can be done about that. But I don't want to knowingly engage in friendly banter with him either. Of course you're free to host him there as you all see fit. You're a bright guy, I'm sure you recall what happens when you lie with dogs.

Whoa ! Slow down there, hombre. If anyone posted a comment wherein they indicated a sense of satisfaction that Tristan "got over" on Steve, I am unaware of it. I don't see everything right away, and we don't have Red Buttons to push nor a round-the-clock team of a score or so of Moderators to do insta-policing. The fact that it was removed, either by the poster himself, or, more likely, the management, should indicate to you that we are NOT interested in any of that kind of bullshit allowed to stand.

Now, I want all of you righteously indignant principled fellows to please keep a few things in mind. First of all, every watch forum that I am aware of has, in some form or another, a rule that states, to wit, "Leave disputes from other forums at the door when you come here" A good rule, virtually impossible to police, since we are all registered at numerous forums. Secondly, if Steve had not attempted to purchase a watch from Tristan with the well-known sequelae, he would still be here, posting away in the Watch-out and padding a very generous post-count, second only to Safetrends with respect to the speed at which it grew. A well-respected member with a sterling reputation. Thirdly, nobody here thinks any more of Dalip than I, BUT... he didn't report his problem with Tristan until well after Steve started the ball rolling and the pilers-on began chiming in harmony. Then, and only then, did he speak up.

So, Brian...last night you barged in, and virtually demanded that we ban Tristan (and to a much more discreet extent, so did Dalip), based solely on hearsay evidence from other forums, and proceed to tell us that the fact that we don't just jump aboard with you, indicates that we're not nearly as savvy and well-concluded as yourself. After all, that's the way y'all do things at the country club, right ?

Summarizing, if Stevo had not had a personal experience with Tristan, would he be banning him empirically based on hearsay from other forums, or would he give him an opportunity to speak up ? That's all we're doing, and if it's all the same to you, Brian, we'll do it at our own pace and then make the determination when we see fit.

[CoopJr]

Originally Posted by Lol-x

Dalip, Glenn and myself....it's not confusing.

A wrench sent in the mail, speaks volumes here.

Other forums (you well know) welcome and give high praise to Bassethouds, holding him up as some kind of hero that 'got to me'.

That speaks volumes too.

It does indeed..disgusting.

[johnbeth]

Originally Posted by Lol-x

Dalip, Glenn and myself....it's not confusing.

A wrench sent in the mail, speaks volumes here.

Other forums (you well know) welcome and give high praise to Bassethouds, holding him up as some kind of hero that 'got to me'.

That speaks volumes too.

It's sad to see people praise scammers and make heroes out of them. That sure does speak volumes on how humans can be so nasty to each other.


John


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[Lol-x]

And for all those really perceptive Einsteins who queried the size of the package and the ability of the wrench to be enclosed enjoy

Glenn sent me a few photographs

Feast your eyes









Further Bassethounds emailed me and made absolutely no mention of these photos as being falsified, which would be the first thing he would say if they were anything other than entire true and correct, as they are.

Bassethounds owes Glenn $3,000. Theft is a felony last I heard, but some will still find a way to try and escape the truth and reality of this situation.

Space-Cadet

[Andad]

You are a nice guy Glenn.

A lot nicer than I.

[dalip]

Originally Posted by directioneng

You are a nice guy Glenn.

A lot nicer than I.

Absolutely

It's the same story Glenn....the guy is unbelievable. But now there's some pressure maybe he will cough up.

And that is the most important thing here. That he pays you back...or as Steve has stated it is a felony.

So Tristan....if you are reading this: pay Glenn back what is rightfully his. You cannot .. And WILL NOT...get away with theft of this amount of money. No way.

Glenn has been patient and exceptionally calm considering. So please do the right thing by him.

[EE33]

I read with disbelief, not the same crook again!!!!

[esm]

that is shocking..

i remember he told us he runs a family business and frequently travel to Brussel for work/meetings etc.... so why the "we are all sacked" excuse all of the sudden?

guess he wasnt able to find someone to "bail him out" this time...



(posted at TKF also)

[Sweramic]

This makes me too angry

[Earl]

I'm not up to date on the specifics but, couldn't this be reported to Interpol? It is a international internet fraud crime and since the specifics are all on the envelope should be easy to report....?