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mikelprz · 6 April 2011, 12:33 AM

The lugs are what turn me off. I prefer the old case. Since Rolex has changed the case size, I am now only limited on buying old case style Rolex watches. I'm trying to like the new case style, but so far, can't.

tfduff723 · 6 April 2011, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SaddleSC

So...I take it that we are still beating this dead horse?

Seriously, this topic is quickly becoming the new "can I get my Rolex wet?" or "is it ok to wear my Rolex to sleep?" In addition, the poll is flawed, because there is not an option for someone (like me) that likes and enjoys both styles equally.

Well put!

Danand · 6 April 2011, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by le_baroudeur

The huge majority of the subjects treated on this forum are near useless...
It is just to finish with the "i like" / "i don't like" with everyone trying to convince everyone. My aim was to know how many: because if there is more "against" than "for", then rolex should not have done this modification. The answers, isolated, are subjective... Not mass numbers. The subject is closed, over, when numbers are out: that is a fact, not a rumor.

The flaw with your statement that uf their are more against than for making it a mistake is assuming that trf is a representativ sample. It is not. The vast majority of buyers never know this forum exists, and likely don't care. It would be more appropriate statistically to get he data from AD's. There are some on this forum that could likely give their impression of the average buyers thoughts on this. The AD I frequent the most definitely feels the subc is a huge improvement over the old and has a hard time selling any of the old style (last i checked they still had 16610 ln and lv, as well as no date models). I think his thread while interesting is trying to flog a dead horse. Rolex do not make quick changes. The supercase sub and gmt are hear for quite a while. Cheers.

le_baroudeur · 6 April 2011, 02:21 AM

well... probably...

Rolexsub16610 · 6 April 2011, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mikelprz

The lugs are what turn me off. I prefer the old case. Since Rolex has changed the case size, I am now only limited on buying old case style Rolex watches. I'm trying to like the new case style, but so far, can't.

Same here. Just sold my 116613. Thought the fat lugs would grow on me.
Didn't.

nrr1 · 6 April 2011, 03:59 AM

Love it!

subtona · 6 April 2011, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JJG

Now that I have seen the 42mm case of the new Exp2, I wish that the SubC had been based on this 42mm case with the more tapered lugs. A SubC at a "mere" 40mm seems less macho now. I always kind of felt that keeping the SubC's diameter at 40mm and just fattening up the lugs was a cop-out. From my point of view, to create a true "larger watch" you must increase the dial/movement diameter like on the new Exp2. But last August I bought a SS SubC anyway. In it's own right, not comparing it to anything else, it is a fine watch.

subtona · 6 April 2011, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Onikage

I wonder if he said "Ahhh! my Rolex!" or "Ahhh! my wrist!"?

subtona · 6 April 2011, 04:22 AM

then why not read a different topic?

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Originally Posted by Rollie2011

This really is beating a dead horse.

If you don't like it, there are plenty floating around on the second hand market.

If you do, its here to stay.

I don't see the obsession over the particular topic

Fiery · 6 April 2011, 06:52 AM

I like the wide lugs, since it makes the Sub-C look bigger, without sacrificing comfort. I've recently had a chance to try on a 41mm Hublot Big Bang, and it looked and felt actually smaller than my Sub-C. Even when I put them both on my wrist, I couldn't believe how bigger the smaller Sub-C looked than the technically bigger Hublot.

Currently the vote result stands at almost 50-50. It would be interesting to repeat this poll 10 years from now. I bet the ratio would then be more like 75-25, in favor of the supercase.

pz93c · 6 April 2011, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by capote

Dislike all super cases, not crazy about the ceramic bezel either...and dont get me started on the engraved rehaut

Agreed. And the lack of lug holes.

KBM · 6 April 2011, 08:57 AM

I think the new style is great. Heck, I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a DSSD.

The main thing, in my view, is that many of us did not have a long time to get to love the traditional sub, as we either got into Rolex a little before the new models came around or we arrived here when they were already out. This being the case, it is probably much easier to accept the changes and only look on their bright side. When a brand changes something that you had loved for years, that's a whole different impact, IMO.

Grumpy Badger · 6 April 2011, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kauebm

I think the new style is great. Heck, I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a DSSD.

The main thing, in my view, is that many of us did not have a long time to get to love the traditional sub, as we either got into Rolex a little before the new models came around or we arrived here when they were already out. This being the case, it is probably much easier to accept the changes and only look on their bright side. When a brand changes something that you had loved for years, that's a whole different impact, IMO.

Nicely put! I'm all about Old Skool, despite being reasonably young at 32, but I think what you say makes a lot of sense!

But Bah Humbug, all the same!

Bring back lug holes!

le_baroudeur · 7 April 2011, 08:15 PM

well... I think that the new case "wins" , long life to the maxicase!

kctt · 7 April 2011, 09:00 PM

I love the maxi case.

Rolexavidfan · 7 April 2011, 09:02 PM

I finally bought the Sub because of the ceramic bezel and the maxi case.

R.G · 7 April 2011, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SaddleSC

So...I take it that we are still beating this dead horse?

Seriously, this topic is quickly becoming the new "can I get my Rolex wet?" or "is it ok to wear my Rolex to sleep?" In addition, the poll is flawed, because there is not an option for someone (like me) that likes and enjoys both styles equally.

Andad · 7 April 2011, 10:14 PM

I voted for the maxi. I have both but think the maxi is the future and with the maxi case we get the new clasp.

L-16610 · 8 April 2011, 04:25 AM

I really don't like it

it is too fat and not at all elegant

karmatp · 8 April 2011, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by L-16610

I really don't like it

it is too fat and not at all elegant

Not as elegant as a watch with a green insert?

Tombstone · 8 April 2011, 05:59 AM

Love it!!!

rollie · 9 April 2011, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by L-16610

I really don't like it

it is too fat and not at all elegant

I a Sub a elegant watch?

never2late · 9 April 2011, 02:02 AM

I liked it enough to purchase a brand new one yesterday.

Rolexsub16610 · 9 April 2011, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Fiery

I like the wide lugs, since it makes the Sub-C look bigger, without sacrificing comfort. I've recently had a chance to try on a 41mm Hublot Big Bang, and it looked and felt actually smaller than my Sub-C. Even when I put them both on my wrist, I couldn't believe how bigger the smaller Sub-C looked than the technically bigger Hublot.

Currently the vote result stands at almost 50-50. It would be interesting to repeat this poll 10 years from now. I bet the ratio would then be more like 75-25, in favor of the supercase.

Don't think there will still be any supercase rolex left after 10 years...
Rolex have learned they made a mistake and introduced the new exp2 42mm...naturally without the supercase

Danand · 9 April 2011, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rolexsub16610

Don't think there will still be any supercase rolex left after 10 years...
Rolex have learned they made a mistake and introduced the new exp2 42mm...naturally without the supercase

Just curious but why would you think rolex would make all of their watches with exactly the same case? The sub and many others have not had the same case as for instance the daytona. The supercase is likely around for quite some time, I suspect more than the ten years you refer to. I find it very interesting that a small number of people on a forum feel that they know better than a successful watch company what they will or should do. If the sub c (in all of it's versions) and GMTII C were not selling well then I could see rolex making a change earlier, but they seem to still be good sellers.

Danand · 9 April 2011, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rolexsub16610

Hey u skinny bastard just chill out we all know you are a "proud" owner of your ugly 116610 piece of shxt and we all know you probably wipe your dirty axxhole with it! Hahahahaha....loser....and don't even bother to reply cos I am outta this crazy forum. Goodbye you retard boy

Just thought you might like to see the message I was sent today after my last post. Even e
When I am exasperated with a post or thread I try to be civil. Sorry to all if I offend.

R.G · 9 April 2011, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Danand

Just thought you might like to see the message I was sent today after my last post. Even e
When I am exasperated with a post or thread I try to be civil. Sorry to all if I offend.

Ha ha ha... Come on, you gotta give it to him - It is quite a funny message!

KarlFr · 9 April 2011, 05:53 AM

I like the supercase, but rather buy the old case subs since they fit me better and are a dying breed

Danand · 9 April 2011, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by R.G

Ha ha ha... Come on, you gotta give it to him - It is quite a funny message!

I would have laughed if it was posted on the thread. It was sent as a private message and reads more like a derranged rant than a joke

travisb · 9 April 2011, 05:55 AM

Personally, I LOVE the super cases.

View Poll Results: Do you like or dislike the supercase on the stainless steel ceramic submariner?
- I like the SS sub with the maxicase.	194	53.74%
- I would like a ceramic sub without the maxicase.	167	46.26%
Voters: 361. You may not vote on this poll

6 April 2011, 02:21 AM	#64
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7 April 2011, 08:15 PM	#74
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7 April 2011, 09:00 PM	#75
kctt "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Melbourne Watch: AP Diver/SD/GMTIIc Posts: 228	I love the maxi case. __________________ Rolex Sea Dweller 16600, Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN, Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore Diver, Omega Seamaster Professional, Tudor Pelagos 25600TB, Tudor Black Bay Dark, Zenith Defy Classic IG: @idighorology

7 April 2011, 10:14 PM	#78
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,533	I voted for the maxi. I have both but think the maxi is the future and with the maxi case we get the new clasp. __________________ E

6 April 2011, 12:33 AM	#61
mikelprz Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Batman Posts: 452	The lugs are what turn me off. I prefer the old case. Since Rolex has changed the case size, I am now only limited on buying old case style Rolex watches. I'm trying to like the new case style, but so far, can't.

6 April 2011, 03:59 AM	#66
nrr1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Real Name: Nick Location: Boston Watch: Sky-Dweller Posts: 37	Love it!

6 April 2011, 06:52 AM	#70
Fiery "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Europe Watch: Sub-C 116610LN Posts: 2,649	I like the wide lugs, since it makes the Sub-C look bigger, without sacrificing comfort. I've recently had a chance to try on a 41mm Hublot Big Bang, and it looked and felt actually smaller than my Sub-C. Even when I put them both on my wrist, I couldn't believe how bigger the smaller Sub-C looked than the technically bigger Hublot. Currently the vote result stands at almost 50-50. It would be interesting to repeat this poll 10 years from now. I bet the ratio would then be more like 75-25, in favor of the supercase.

6 April 2011, 08:57 AM	#72
KBM 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: K. Location: 780 Posts: 10,460	I think the new style is great. Heck, I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a DSSD. The main thing, in my view, is that many of us did not have a long time to get to love the traditional sub, as we either got into Rolex a little before the new models came around or we arrived here when they were already out. This being the case, it is probably much easier to accept the changes and only look on their bright side. When a brand changes something that you had loved for years, that's a whole different impact, IMO.

7 April 2011, 09:02 PM	#76
Rolexavidfan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Har Location: Tukwila, WA Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,571	I finally bought the Sub because of the ceramic bezel and the maxi case.

8 April 2011, 04:25 AM	#79
L-16610 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Europe Posts: 825	I really don't like it it is too fat and not at all elegant

8 April 2011, 05:59 AM	#81
Tombstone "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Richard Location: LV, NV Watch: LV Sub and others Posts: 2,689	Love it!!! __________________ Always working...by choice

9 April 2011, 02:02 AM	#83
never2late "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Jerry Location: Cleveland, Ohio Watch: 116610LN Posts: 827	I liked it enough to purchase a brand new one yesterday.

9 April 2011, 05:53 AM	#88
KarlFr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Scandinavia Watch: ♛ Posts: 1,330	I like the supercase, but rather buy the old case subs since they fit me better and are a dying breed

9 April 2011, 05:55 AM	#90
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,493	Looks like pretty close results.. Personally, I LOVE the super cases.

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