Exp II on the balcony

[zeuloa]

Originally Posted by jay1988

Read my responses to this thread. I have made it pretty clear all along this is my opinion. I don't understand why people are saying things like "the fact is you're wrong". At least I acknowledged mine was a personal opinion instead of calling people "wrong".



You used the exact words "The Royal Family have proved him wrong". As if they are a barometer of all that is wrong and right in the world. That's the pertinence. You used someone's status as Royalty to try and discredit someone who has worked in the style industry his whole life.

I can explain the pertinence if you want. Given the fact that the Royal family aren't fashion experts you still took it upon yourself to use them to "prove" someone else was wrong. My point was simply the fact that if the Royal family doing something proves something else is wrong (I don't see how the words above can mean any thing else) aren't those of us who stay loyal to our partners wrong ? I mean Charles is the first in line to the throne. Another argument you have used before.

You are saying that the Royal family doing something makes it right. How else could them doing it prove someone else wrong ? Why does that not apply to other things they do like having affairs ?

I would say they have a great knowledge of fashion as they are mostly impecable, specially Charles. They are surrounded by the best designers and tailors in the UK, and perhaps the world. Just about everything from hat to shoes is made-to-measure.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by cremator

i will let u guess

roflmao....

[JGX]

Originally Posted by jay1988

You used the exact words "The Royal Family have proved him wrong". As if they are a barometer of all that is wrong and right in the world. That's the pertinence. You used someone's status as Royalty to try and discredit someone who has worked in the style industry his whole life.

i·ro·ny    [ahy-ruh-nee, ahy-er-]
noun, plural i·ro·nies.
1.
the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend.
2.
Literature .
a.
a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated.

"Your Uncle is Wrong" - "There is no wrong" - Irony. . .

[floater156]

Based on these last posts, I'm not even going to read any more :(

[QueueCumber]

I watched the Intimate Biography on the Queen a few days ago. She is quite an interesting lady.

As far as sports watches with formal attire are concerned, I wouldn't combine the two simply because the sleeves don't settle right unless the shirt cuffs are abnormally large. Also, one cuff ends up about 1/4 inch out of the jacket and the other ends up not poking out at all when my hands are at my side.

People can do whatever they want really, and nowadays a lot of people seem to wear sport watches with suits. I suppose the "old school" thing would be for them not to wear watches at all to that event, since one is not supposed to be concerned with time during a celebration...

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by floater156

Based on these last posts, I'm not even going to read any more :(

I'm sure you will be missed...







(How was that for irony JGX? )

[JGX]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

I'm sure you will be missed...

(How was that for irony JGX? )

[jay1988]

Originally Posted by zeuloa

I would say they have a great knowledge of fashion as they are mostly impecable, specially Charles. They are surrounded by the best designers and tailors in the UK, and perhaps the world. Just about everything from hat to shoes is made-to-measure.

I didn't see many pictures of Charles but I would be very surprised if he wasn't wearing a dress watch in silver or gold on a leather strap.

I read about Prince Harry in the papers all the time and I really doubt he cares about fashion. I'm not saying that in a negative way but he doesn't seem like the type. In all the photos I've seen of him at non official events he always seems like more of a dress down person (again not saying that's bad). I highly doubt he does anything other than show up to the tailor appointment when he's told and endure throughout. My Mum and Gran were just telling me how he looked like he was falling asleep the whole time today.

[jay1988]

Originally Posted by JGX

i·ro·ny    [ahy-ruh-nee, ahy-er-]
noun, plural i·ro·nies.
1.
the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend.
2.
Literature .
a.
a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated.

"Your Uncle is Wrong" - "There is no wrong" - Irony. . .

First of all it's not irony when you have to say the opposite thing straight away.

Just a few days ago my aunt said this to my cousin "you're really good at handing assignments in on time aren't you ?". Now without knowing her tone how do you know if my cousin is or isn't good at it ? Notice how she didn't have to wait a few seconds and go "No you are really bad".

It's ironic when someone keeps their watch in a safe and babies it. He then takes it out for a special event and falls down the stone stairs and smashes it. Nobody that knows him needs to say "you smashed your watch even though you baby it all the time". The irony is there for all to see.

You get what irony means right ? It means the opposite is true. When QC said "I'm sure you will be missed" he meant the opposite So "the fact is" my uncle is right ? Or "the Royal family have proved him" right (which they can't because they are doing the opposite) ? Those are the only opposites I see to what you said.

Admitting you were wrong in what you said by calling me "wrong" in a matter of opinions and in saying the Royal family prove things is more tactful then trying to blame it on irony and run. Especially when you did such a bad job of blaming it on irony.

[jay1988]

Originally Posted by floater156

Based on these last posts, I'm not even going to read any more :(

I don't understand this post. What were you looking for from the thread ? You saw the Explorer on the balcony. You got the "Queen is good vs. Queen is bad" argument that always comes up. What did you want us to post ?

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by jay1988

I don't understand this post. What were you looking for from the thread ? You saw the Explorer on the balcony. You got the "Queen is good vs. Queen is bad" argument that always comes up. What did you want us to post ?

Shhhh! He is being "missed...."

[JGX]

Originally Posted by jay1988

Admitting you were wrong in what you said by calling me "wrong" in a matter of opinions and in saying the Royal family prove things is more tactful then trying to blame it on irony and run.

I'm not trying to "run"; I am, however, conscious that our intellectual standpoints are polarised and so I suspect that I am wasting my time. I am also mindful that the 'thread creep' here and our opposing views are almost certainly reaching the limits of our good Mods' tolerances and, therefore, let us agree to agree and be joyful that our young Royals have such superb tastes in wristwatches!

[cedargrove]

Originally Posted by Sam Philip

Prince Harry wore his Rolex Exp II (polar) and Prince William wore his Omega Seamaster

I think this is pretty cool. They're not so stuffy that they can't wear the watches they obviously enjoy. They probably also realize the only people who will ever notice are enthusiasts, and that half of us will appreciate the watches they've chosen.

I've seen pics with Harry in military garb wearing his Exp42 - a true tool watch.

[zeuloa]

Originally Posted by jay1988

I didn't see many pictures of Charles but I would be very surprised if he wasn't wearing a dress watch in silver or gold on a leather strap.

I read about Prince Harry in the papers all the time and I really doubt he cares about fashion. I'm not saying that in a negative way but he doesn't seem like the type. In all the photos I've seen of him at non official events he always seems like more of a dress down person (again not saying that's bad). I highly doubt he does anything other than show up to the tailor appointment when he's told and endure throughout. My Mum and Gran were just telling me how he looked like he was falling asleep the whole time today.

He was, gold I believe.

[jay1988]

Originally Posted by JGX

I'm not trying to "run"; I am, however, conscious that our intellectual standpoints are polarised and so I suspect that I am wasting my time. I am also mindful that the 'thread creep' here and our opposing views almost certainly reaching the limits of our good Mods' tolerances and, therefore, let us agree to agree and be joyful that our young Royals have such superb tastes in wristwatches!

In the future when someone expresses their opinion don't say it's wrong. You could of just said "they are great watches and I believe they can be worn at any time" and I would never of said "well you're wrong, you've been proved wrong".

Intellectual standpoints ? Anyone who thinks saying "the fact is he's wrong" then later saying "there is no wrong" falls under the purview of Irony is wrong in my view. See irony has a definition (unlike when is it ok to wear a sports watch?) and I think what you did misses it. Any one who believes to the contrary can let me know.

I agree that we should let it go now. Mainly because my girlfriend just said "I don't think I can go out with one of those guys who gets into fights on the internet". Also I suspect you're right about the mods stepping in. Good day

[JGX]

Originally Posted by jay1988

In the future when someone expresses their opinion don't say it's wrong. You could of just said "they are great watches and I believe they can be worn at any time" and I would never of said "well you're wrong, you've been proved wrong".

Intellectual standpoints ? Anyone who thinks saying "the fact is he's wrong" then later saying "there is no wrong" falls under the purview of Irony is wrong in my view. See irony has a definition (unlike when is it ok to wear a sports watch?) and I think what you did misses it. Any one who believes to the contrary can let me know.

I agree that we should let it go now. Mainly because my girlfriend just said "I don't think I can go out with one of those guys who gets into fights on the internet". Also I suspect you're right about the mods stepping in. Good day

[jay1988]

Originally Posted by zeuloa

He was, gold I believe.

Are there any good pictures of it ? I doubt it but I'd love to see it. He's quite the Patek fan I believe.

[Hansch99]

[AJMarcus]

Someone once said, "Confident men create their own style and in their own time.". In the meantime, we can agree to disagree and respect each others opinion. I'll continue to confidently wear my Rolex sports watches to all occasions. Just call me a dummy I guess

[zeuloa]

Originally Posted by AJMarcus

Someone once said, "Confident men create their own style and in their own time.". In the meantime, we can agree to disagree and respect each others opinion. I'll continue to confidently wear my Rolex sports watches to all occasions. Just call me a dummy I guess

Agree. The best example of this was probably Gianni Agnelli.

[wardman]

Originally Posted by Hansch99

I'll take her over there, and her over there....

[~JJ]

Originally Posted by queuecumber

i suppose the "old school" thing would be for them not to wear watches at all to that event, since one is not supposed to be concerned with time during a celebration...

x2

[dalip]

Originally Posted by rolexsport

really?

while i am impressed with the observation that ss sport watch aren't to be worn with forma attire... i am not at all impressed with the amount of money a democratic nation is wasting on monarchy upkeep...

no one is gonna tell them to go away... they should just look in the mirror and realize they're useless in this new world order...

Slagging of the British monarchy isn't something that abides by the rules of TRF. We don't allow political discussion simply because it ends badly with members getting over heated and ultimately being banned. Nothing to do with any particular views of the admin here. Just a peacekeeping decision. I'd appreciate it if you respected that from now on.

On the subject:

I actually find it touching that William wears the watch his mother gave him everywhere and through any occasion. She chose him a specific time piece and it suits him so well. Each time he looks at his wrist he spends time with her memory I'd imagine.

Harry has his exp II on with his army fatigues in a pic recently I believe...now in full dress. Quite the statement from him.

As for the inapporopriateness ...well I hear that also.

But I also like that they are making their own statements here. Says something about them both that I like.