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Old 27 July 2016, 09:19 AM   #61
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Biver is certainly the turn-around king of the Swiss watch industry. Funny how few people today remember that Blancpain was a dead company and Omega was at the level of Tissot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Claude_Biver
He is very good at what he does.

His personal collection of vintage PP is no joke either...

His business tastes fund his personal ones...
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Old 27 July 2016, 10:08 AM   #62
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He is very good at what he does.

His personal collection of vintage PP is no joke either...

His business tastes fund his personal ones...
Like Michael Kors wears Rolex.

I sold my local AD a Daytona (I made £500 on it), he sells from Armani, to tag, to omega to Breitling to Rolex (they're his top brand)....he wears..... A rose gold AP
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Old 27 July 2016, 10:14 AM   #63
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Hublot to AP is like Michael Kors to Rolex......very popular but a blatant rip off and no where near the same standard!!
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Old 27 July 2016, 10:21 AM   #64
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My apologies but I've just bought my 1st AP.
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Old 27 July 2016, 11:13 AM   #65
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Old 28 July 2016, 05:08 AM   #66
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AP is well above Hublot in terms of horological significance.
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Old 16 August 2016, 09:58 AM   #67
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They really are not so comparable. The average price point for AP is much higher than Hublot. AP has more horological significance. Hublot is generally more accessible and more wearable. Resale value is better for AP, but ROOs need to be bought at the right price as well. Anecdotally, I was watch shopping this weekend and the Hublot boutique in Bal Harbour seemed to be moving a lot more watches than the AP boutique. AP watches are more refined and in better taste, but Hublot is more accessible to a move up new Rolex buyer and they move a lot of watches.
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Old 16 August 2016, 02:03 PM   #68
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If you have to ask you should probably go with the Hublot.
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Old 16 August 2016, 10:14 PM   #69
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I saw Bolt wearing a gold Hublot yesterday, love the guy but was a little heartbroken, he should be wearing a 44 RG.
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Old 16 August 2016, 10:31 PM   #70
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I saw Bolt wearing a gold Hublot yesterday, love the guy but was a little heartbroken, he should be wearing a 44 RG.

Well he probably would but is sponsored by Hublot.
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Old 16 August 2016, 11:33 PM   #71
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Will never buy a single hublot in my lifetime, will not accept it as a gift either. Hate copy watches
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Old 17 August 2016, 04:01 AM   #72
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Will never buy a single hublot in my lifetime, will not accept it as a gift either. Hate copy watches
Copy watches? I realize most watch collectors have a love/hate relationship with Hublot but they do make some nice timepieces along with a bunch of colorful gaudy ones most of us would not buy. I am not going to say Hublot is superior to AP or anything stupid like that but they can be a part of a nice well rounded collection. I own a Classic Fusion Titanium Skeleton and it get more complements than any other watch I own including my 3 APs. Not accept one as a gift?
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Old 17 August 2016, 04:07 AM   #73
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AP is cool. Hublot is not.

All you need to know.
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Old 29 August 2016, 11:37 AM   #74
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Old 29 August 2016, 02:58 PM   #75
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Much prefer Hublot for the originality of their designs and customer service. Only good thing the AP has is its history - their designs are stuck in time. Sorry.
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Old 29 August 2016, 07:26 PM   #76
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Never like the design of Hublot. Prefer Pam, Rolex and IWC over it. Don't even need to compare it with AP. But I am more than willing to accept a Hublot as a gift so that I can sell it off to fund another AP.


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Old 29 August 2016, 07:40 PM   #77
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With Hublot everything is a special edition, which to me means NOTHING is a special addition....and AP is well, AP.
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Old 29 August 2016, 08:15 PM   #78
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Much prefer Hublot for the originality of their designs and customer service. Only good thing the AP has is its history - their designs are stuck in time. Sorry.
Sure you didn't put "AP" and "Hublot" in the wrong place?
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Old 29 August 2016, 09:36 PM   #79
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I sold my local AD a Daytona (I made £500 on it), he sells from Armani, to tag, to omega to Breitling to Rolex (they're his top brand)....he wears..... A rose gold AP
WOW can't imagine Rolex giving an AD dealership to a guy who sells Armani watches, I mean fashion watches should not be allowed to be sold at a normal AD, just my humble opinion...

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AP is cool. Hublot is not.

All you need to know.
Well for most WIS yes, but for the general population Hublot has a lot of success, I know a few guys who have some, I don't even bother to talk watches with them, when they saw my AP CE diver they asked what it was, I said "oh nothing special, AP"

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Sure you didn't put "AP" and "Hublot" in the wrong place?
Yeah that is quite odd and clearly the first time I hear something like this, he must have inverted them

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Much prefer Hublot for the originality of their designs and customer service. Only good thing the AP has is its history - their designs are stuck in time. Sorry.
TRIPLE LMFAO, originality of design??? Dude, Hublot flagrantly copied the AP design, I don't know about Youblow (sorry but it's too easy and makes me laugh) customer service but AP's is second to none, I dealt with them not long ago and they were amazing. The only thing where I could agree is that Youblow try to make some interesting designs and start to have some good in-house movements, La Ferrari for example, and the skeleton line, these are interesting though not my cup of tea, but all the rest; the big bang, the badaboum, the king power and I don't know what else but which have these stupid names, is a flagrant copy of AP design with a touch of copy from the Patek Nautilus with the ears. Sorry but most Youblow designs are for mass consumption for clients who know zip about real horology, again I am not saying all their models are like this, but most are and unfortunately the ones which have success, are the ones which are flagrant copies, at the same time logical if you copy an iconic design which has resisted the test of time and has more than 40 years running...
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Old 30 August 2016, 12:04 PM   #80
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Well for most WIS yes, but for the general population Hublot has a lot of success, I know a few guys who have some, I don't even bother to talk watches with them, when they saw my AP CE diver they asked what it was, I said "oh nothing special, AP"
Just because you wear AP and someone wear hublot you think you know more about watches than him?
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Old 30 August 2016, 01:37 PM   #81
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AP!

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Old 30 August 2016, 02:50 PM   #82
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I wouldn't go as far as saying that Hublot or any other company copies another. I mean look at shoes, shoes all look the same for all brands in the world. Cars same thing. Clothes same. There is a limit to originality and I would call this inspiration more than anything else. I think people dislike Hublot because they put prices up there despite not having their movements done in-house. if they priced the same as Rolex for instance, i believe everyone would love them but again I don't believe they blatantly copied anything just because they have some screws on the watch (if we think this way, then AP copied the Cartier Santos). I think watches are like meeting the love of your life, except you can renew this sensation often hahahah. Buy what you feel like buying should be irrelevant of a brand's history and lineage (unless you are investing)
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Old 30 August 2016, 03:31 PM   #83
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Just because you wear AP and someone wear hublot you think you know more about watches than him?
No, but if somebody sees an AP and doesn't recognize what it is, then yes, you know more about watches than him. It's one of the most recognizable, iconic designs in the watch world.

However, knowing more about watches doesn't make you a better person.

Wait...yeah, it kinda does.
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Old 30 August 2016, 03:43 PM   #84
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AP no comparison. The only thing that's similar is the bezel. The AP is a far support watch for so many reason that I can right a whole paper on why AP is better.
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Old 31 August 2016, 12:57 AM   #85
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I wouldn't go as far as saying that Hublot or any other company copies another. I mean look at shoes, shoes all look the same for all brands in the world. Cars same thing. Clothes same. There is a limit to originality and I would call this inspiration more than anything else. I think people dislike Hublot because they put prices up there despite not having their movements done in-house. if they priced the same as Rolex for instance, i believe everyone would love them but again I don't believe they blatantly copied anything just because they have some screws on the watch (if we think this way, then AP copied the Cartier Santos). I think watches are like meeting the love of your life, except you can renew this sensation often hahahah. Buy what you feel like buying should be irrelevant of a brand's history and lineage (unless you are investing)
...the only thing you will find in Hublot's design department.

If you think AP copied Cartier then you need to read a bit of history on how the RO was created. Company heritage is an important factor as to why we buy particular luxury brands over others. Miss that point and you've missed a great deal.
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Old 31 August 2016, 01:05 AM   #86
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Sold my Hublot BB and bought a AP 42mm ROO Panda....

One of the best decisions I ever made :)
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Old 31 August 2016, 02:12 PM   #87
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Hublot is coming out with some interesting dials but I just can't get over it being an AP wannabe.
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You are right Le Chef, but not having an amazing company heritage should not mean that a watch is bad or a company in general is bad. WIS wannabees will all boycott Hublot based on the fact that the company doesn't have the same pedigree as AP. Get someone who has no clue about watches history, show them the AP and the Hublot, i could bet my life on it that the person will take the Hublot.
One should not be hypocritical, just saying. Hublot's design is much more appealing to modern crowd than AP's designs. Once you start to know more about a company and HOW THEIR WATCHES KEEP THEIR VALUE, then your judgment will be altered.
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Old 31 August 2016, 02:29 PM   #89
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Porsche-ah post is the proof. He had a Hublot, discovered the forum, and now has an AP instead ;).
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Old 31 August 2016, 11:24 PM   #90
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There are lots of people that own both. Today I am wearing my ROO tomorrow I may be wearing a Hublot Denim. Either way as long as I am happy who cares what other people think, I don't.
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