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Old 15 May 2013, 04:28 AM   #61
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While the SD is a great watch, I think you too emotionally attached and might be selling the PO short.
I agree with you. You have great points. SD is a great watch technically and lookswise too but so are others. The SD has the Rolex logo and the public hype in its favor. This Omega might technically be superior watch than the SD but SD has that name going for it ... plus it sure is a great watch, I mean it is not some crappy watch flaunting the Rolex logo ...

I often times look at my SDs and I find them a little small, compared to my GMT2C for example and I find their looks pretty dull and boring .... but I am keeping them because I got them at great prices and they have gone up in value and when I do hold one in my hand, it brings the WOW out of me still... not too many watches out there can do that to me....

But I bet today that there are many div watches out there for under a $1000 or even under $500, that can take on the SD .... but in the Rolex world, the SD occupies a very unique spot and is the only watch that can take on the SUB andcome out ahead...
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Old 15 May 2013, 05:01 AM   #62
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That omega is gorgeous, I find myself always going back to this thread to look at it
+1......They certainly are good looking pieces.
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Old 15 May 2013, 07:04 AM   #63
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The insert on that Omega sure loooks very nice but I bet the resale value of the watch sucks!
Everything boils down to resale with you. If that's really all you want out of watches, then any subject relating to any watch is pointless. How can any watch be really that good if you resell it? For profit, then we have totally different reasons for loving watches.

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For me, if the weight becomes too lightweight for a watch, then it turns me off. I like to have heft to my watches.
Lol, every body wants weight right...then there's like ten threads on "why I
hate the Deepsea." Not balanced, top heavy, blah, blah, blah...


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It might be a beautiful watch but flipping an SD to get it, you really must love the Omega...Your SD is technically and aesthetically way superior...
No, it isn't really. It's subjective and your opinion.

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Well first of al, your Omega can go 2000ft deep ... the SD goes double that. In diving watches, a deeper going dive watch is a better
engineered dive watch because of what it take to withstand water pressure... If you bring a g-shock that can go 5,000ft deep, then
it is a better engineered watch than the SD....

In house 3135 is another reason. I don't know what Omega uses.

Lots of other design features ...you have to refer to official tech specs and compare the two. The world doesn't sing the praises for
the SD for nothing.

Not to mention its history and why the SD was created in the first place...
Last but not least, it is a ROLEX .... the resale and constant rise in value, year after year is guaranteed.
Depth rating doesn't equate to better, because the fact of the matter is the functional depth. Who is really going below 500 meters....1000 meters. All these divers are over engineered and if numbers is the winning formula, then the Deepsea would automatically be the best diver on the planet. It is not.

Lol, you don't know what movement Omega uses but erroneously make the assumption that whatever it is the Rolex is better. That is definitely koolaid talk.
So you know, the Omega uses an in house caliber 8500 which in many professional's opinion and on paper a more technically advance movement than the 3135. It has a longer power reserve and a longer service interval, 7-10 years. The 3135 has one clear advantage, it is tried and true. The Omega is technically a superior movement, but has yet to prove it's longevity.

Lets look at more stats.
Crystal: ar coating; Omega yes and it's domed/ SD no(pros and cons for both)
Bracelet: SD ole reliable tuna can / Omega solid clasp arguably better(I prefer it)
Lume and dial legibility: No contest, Omega
Depth: SD 4000 wins / Omega 2000, both over engineered for any diver

Both classics in their own right and yes the SD has better resale and more history but it is not the best diver on the market in 2013.
I owned it and flipped it at a lost, so much for resale.

I am not an Omega fan boy either as my two current watches happen to be Rolex, but the facts are subjectively clear to me, Omega has caught up in a few areas.
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Old 15 May 2013, 10:31 AM   #64
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Everything boils down to resale with you. If that's really all you want out of watches, then any subject relating to any watch is pointless. How can any watch be really that good if you resell it? For profit, then we have totally different reasons for loving watches.



Lol, every body wants weight right...then there's like ten threads on "why I
hate the Deepsea." Not balanced, top heavy, blah, blah, blah...




No, it isn't really. It's subjective and your opinion.



Depth rating doesn't equate to better, because the fact of the matter is the functional depth. Who is really going below 500 meters....1000 meters. All these divers are over engineered and if numbers is the winning formula, then the Deepsea would automatically be the best diver on the planet. It is not.

Lol, you don't know what movement Omega uses but erroneously make the assumption that whatever it is the Rolex is better. That is definitely koolaid talk.
So you know, the Omega uses an in house caliber 8500 which in many professional's opinion and on paper a more technically advance movement than the 3135. It has a longer power reserve and a longer service interval, 7-10 years. The 3135 has one clear advantage, it is tried and true. The Omega is technically a superior movement, but has yet to prove it's longevity.

Lets look at more stats.
Crystal: ar coating; Omega yes and it's domed/ SD no(pros and cons for both)
Bracelet: SD ole reliable tuna can / Omega solid clasp arguably better(I prefer it)
Lume and dial legibility: No contest, Omega
Depth: SD 4000 wins / Omega 2000, both over engineered for any diver

Both classics in their own right and yes the SD has better resale and more history but it is not the best diver on the market in 2013.
I owned it and flipped it at a lost, so much for resale.

I am not an Omega fan boy either as my two current watches happen to be Rolex, but the facts are subjectively clear to me, Omega has caught up in a few areas.
Thank you so much. I was too tired to do all the work. And indeed you did more than good.

I really admire a few Rolex watches (DSSD), but this blind worshipping is just crazy. All emotions aside. The PO is a far better watch than the SD and I mean far ...
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Old 15 May 2013, 10:36 AM   #65
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Interesting... I have seen the weight argument go both ways, some people go as far to say they will pay for plat/WG just because of the heft and weight while others on this thread say they would love TI for its light weight.
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Old 15 May 2013, 11:17 AM   #66
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Interesting... I have seen the weight argument go both ways, some people go as far to say they will pay for plat/WG just because of the heft and weight while others on this thread say they would love TI for its light weight.
It depends on the size of the watch for me. I could only wear my 45mm PO in Titanium. I like my 40 mm watches in steel (and am sure I could handle them in platinum if my wallet could).

All my watches (with bracelets) weigh in at around 145 to 160 grams regardless of size. I can switch between the 40mm and 45mm without even noticing a difference.

Personally I am not fooled into thinking weight = quality. Instead I derive pleasure from knowing I have some rather unique and higher quality metal on my arm (i.e. 904L, Titanium, and one day gold or platinum).
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Old 16 May 2013, 09:40 AM   #67
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Just to prove, that you can perfectly polish titanium.

Here you can see the polished edges on the side of the body.



















Titanium Grade 5 on the left, steel on the right:









Once again. Titanium Grade 5 on the left, steel on the right:





Sorry for all the pics. Just wanted to make a point.
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Old 16 May 2013, 10:27 AM   #68
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Awesome pictures. The Ti Omega is the first watch I've held in which I couldn't believe exactly what I was holding. Looks amazing, the finishing looks like any ss watch but the weight is like whoa...can this really be. Yes.
To clarify, on the last pic, the left is stainless and right is Ti.
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Old 16 May 2013, 12:44 PM   #69
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My wife needs Ti...

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Who needs titanium when you use 904L
Not sure really, but you never know what the future holds.
Scott
My wife has a severe nickel allergy and even the 904L causes a rash.
The only watches she can wear are Ti, Plat, 18k rose or yellow.
Her daily driver is an Omega SeMP Bond 300m Chrono in Ti or her 16618 Blue Sub.
She would be the first on the list for a Ti Rolex.
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Old 17 May 2013, 04:44 AM   #70
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Awesome pictures. The Ti Omega is the first watch I've held in which I couldn't believe exactly what I was holding. Looks amazing, the finishing looks like any ss watch but the weight is like whoa...can this really be. Yes.
To clarify, on the last pic, the left is stainless and right is Ti.

Thx! Of course you right. It was just a typo. Unfortunately I can't edit it anymore. Never mind ....
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