Disagreement with a Grey Dealer - Opinions Needed

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by laphroaig007

Seller has offered to send the watch back... So, where's the big problem ?
The wear is a bit too much, I agrre, but watch is not new...
IMHO

This.

[Alpino]

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As showed by the following picture, you can't change only the end links. As you have SEL on this bracelet, you'll have to order and replace part "32-20871" composed of 4 links and the SEL.

It probably cost a lot, you need 2 of them. Sourcing a replacement bracelet would be a better idea, I think (it's 1350us$ brand new from Rolex).

[Chris B]

It's taken the shine off what should be a really pleasant event, I’d take a refund & start again a little wiser for the experience

[Darlinboy]

Take up the seller on his offer to accept return of the watch, and move on.

[crowncollection]

Just return it if unhappy.


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[Cru Jones]

he's offered to take it back, which is great and the right way to go about this. so, what else do you want? you want to keep the watch and have him refund a portion to cover the repair/replacement?

[HL65]

I don't see big problem either: Return watch and get full refund as seller stated. Again you are buying a 10 year old watch not a new watch. Best of luck and am sure you will work it out.

[inspires]

Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

I don't see big problem either: Return watch and get full refund as seller stated. Again you are buying a 10 year old watch not a new watch. Best of luck and am sure you will work it out.

Ditto. No sure what you're expecting from the seller apart from this. Get your money back and move on to the next. Explorer's similar era to the one you have can easily be found at what you paid.

[Vincent65]

send it back

[dricig]

looks to me that the bracelet was originally for a watch with lug holes and the slots in the end links were cut in to make it fit a non lug hole case.

dave

[mfer]

He is being completely reasonable. Return it.

[John in MA]

return it.

[espejo]

Return it. It will always taint the way you feel about the watch. There are better ones out there.

[subtona]

Looks like they removed the bracelet w a hammer & chisel

[TonyD]

I am a little weird about these things so my advice may also be weird. To me the fun and enjoyment of the "hunt" and then opening that box is part of the whole process. If you start out with such a bad taste then it diminishes the whole watch. They might be able to get you new parts or polish the damage etc but for me I will always know the watch was hacked. I must believe that the former owner had no idea how to take care of a Rolex and I would go crazy wondering if they abused it over its life.

I would send it back and look for another one. It should not be hard to find a great one if you are patient. Best of luck to you!

[rmpickard]

Some educations are cheaper than others.
I would eat the shipping costs and start over on a fresh sheet.
The hassle to date would flavour the watch in a poor light to me.

Good luck.

[motoikkyu]

I think the price you paid was reasonable for a "like new" example. I think the damage demonstrated makes this NOT "like new". If I'd gone for "like new", which I rarely do, I would be disappointed and would return the item: it didn't meet expectations. You have dozens of opinions that the damage is outside of "normal" wear and tear, ask the seller to split shipping at least, based on the strength of your photos. This is not a "return for any reason", this is a "return because seller made a MISTAKE in describing".

[JP Chestnut]

Send it back. What's with all the soul searching? You paid top dollar for a pristine watch that turned out to be far from mint, near mint, or LNIB. The dealer offered to take it back. What more would you like?

[bradiowausa]

Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

Send it back. What's with all the soul searching? You paid top dollar for a pristine watch that turned out to be far from mint, near mint, or LNIB. The dealer offered to take it back. What more would you like?

The $25 wire fee. I would like to thank the seller for refunding shipping and return shipping, but that's not completely good enough. I want exactly the amount that went out of my bank account. Nobody here defended "normal wear" or "like new" - completely outrageous terms. These terms do not apply to the watch, at least not the end links.

As far as the overall condition, let's say that because of the lack of stretch, etc. and that the watch is otherwise pristine, it deserves an overall "like new" condition. Does anyone agree that this is possible? Even if it is, shouldn't the end links be disclosed??

I think that the ad was a material misrepresentation because it didn't disclose the end link damage. I think it was an accident. I need to be made whole.

[superdog]

Originally Posted by bradiowausa

The $25 wire fee. I would like to thank the seller for refunding shipping and return shipping, but that's not completely good enough. I want exactly the amount that went out of my bank account. Nobody here defended "normal wear" or "like new" - completely outrageous terms. These terms do not apply to the watch, at least not the end links.

As far as the overall condition, let's say that because of the lack of stretch, etc. and that the watch is otherwise pristine, it deserves an overall "like new" condition. Does anyone agree that this is possible? Even if it is, shouldn't the end links be disclosed??

I think that the ad was a material misrepresentation because it didn't disclose the end link damage. I think it was an accident. I need to be made whole.

Wait, your going on at this point for $25?

It sounds like all was made right, seller paid for return shipping and all.

Personally I think your now taking it too far. It was a bad situation for all and he took it back for a full return.

For the price a burger and a beer, let it go.

[bradiowausa]

Originally Posted by superdog

Wait, your going on at this point for $25?

It sounds like all was made right, seller paid for return shipping and all.

Personally I think your now taking it too far. It was a bad situation for all and he took it back for a full return.

For the price a burger and a beer, let it go.

I don't know about New Jersey, but in Iowa $25 pays for more than a burger and a beer. You could get dinner for two people for $25...

[superdog]

Originally Posted by bradiowausa

I don't know about New Jersey, but in Iowa $25 pays for more than a burger and a beer. You could get dinner for two people for $25...

Super, then the 4+k you spent on a watch makes it appear even less.

Be happy the seller had integrity and did the right thing.
I'll say again, move on.

[77T]

Originally Posted by bradiowausa

The $25 wire fee. I would like to thank the seller for refunding shipping and return shipping, but that's not completely good enough.

Wasn't the choice of a bank wire yours? Or did the dealer not accept checks, money orders or credit cards?

[Archduke]

You have had a good result. I think you need to accept the $25 wire fee and move on now. It could have been a lot worse.

[Archduke]

Agree with all the previous posts. You are not happy. Watch is not like new. Dealer has offered to take it back. Return it for refund. Problem solved!

[scottb2]

i agree with tim - send it back - you will never be happy with a watch with so many questions - there are others out there

[bradiowausa]

Originally Posted by scottb2

i agree with tim - send it back - you will never be happy with a watch with so many questions - there are others out there

If I kept this watch for 10 years, it will always be tainted by this. That's why I am sending it back.

[chorne]

Your best decision. I would avoid this seller at all costs in the future.

Originally Posted by bradiowausa

If I kept this watch for 10 years, it will always be tainted by this. That's why I am sending it back.

[A.Sharp]

Not a fan of its condition

[Mastergreenhand]

Glad you're sending it back and getting your money back. Now the fun begins in the hunt to acquire one in the condition you want. Good luck.

Cheers