Vintage Subs vs. New Sub-Cs

[Cayman981]

Originally Posted by cop414

This is very nice...

[jk88]

Originally Posted by jk88

If sand gets under the bezel of the Sub-C, is that a potential problem?

Forgive my revival of this old thread -- I still haven't made a decision but I'd like the above question answered please.

[SLS]

I do not have have a Sub C, so I can not answer your question. I will say that I have numerous earlier version Subs & Sea Dwellers that have spent a fair amount of time in the sand & on the beach and this is not a problem or an issue that I have experienced.

[antbkny]

Go try some on and see what feels better

[mr.president1]

Go ceramic!

[Nidal]

If you are talking 16610 I'd go ceramic hands down. If you are talking red sub. Heck yeah bring it on.


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[ath1212]

Originally Posted by kilyung

Get the 16610LV

I agree with Mike. But I've also added the hulk to my collection.

[Armyguy03]

I'd recommend either the 14060 or 16600.

[dw.metro]

I tried on a used non ceramic LV but decided to go for a 1970 5513 Sub instead. I like the 5513 better because it's retro and that it is less flashy than the LV. Savings was $2200 which is really nice too.

[Karbo]

14060M 2 liners withoyt no doybts !!!!!

[Broker Boy]

I own new and old. The guys suggesting you go vintage very likely don't own a Sub C...but wish they did.

Get the Sub C and you'll never look back. There is no comparison between the older Subs and the Sub C. You'll always wish you had if you don't, and it'll just end up costing you.

[watchyou]

Originally Posted by stevedssd

If you insist!

Archduke - Get the ceramic Sub Date first with lume, sapphire, dealer warranty, glidelock, etc..

Then if you have enough money and still fancy an older watch for aesthetic reasons consider a 14060 / 5513 / 1680 for weekends etc.

Best of both worlds.

Yes!

x3

[CrownMe]

Coming from somebody that owned a SUb C.... I found it to be too heavy and clunky for all day wear. I ended up selling it and went to this. I can wear this watch all day and not know its there.

[CrownMe]

Originally Posted by Broker Boy

I own new and old. The guys suggesting you go vintage very likely don't own a Sub C...but wish they did.

Get the Sub C and you'll never look back. There is no comparison between the older Subs and the Sub C. You'll always wish you had if you don't, and it'll just end up costing you.

that my friend is hilarious

but DEAD wrong

[Armyguy03]

Originally Posted by Broker Boy

I own new and old. The guys suggesting you go vintage very likely don't own a Sub C...but wish they did.

Get the Sub C and you'll never look back. There is no comparison between the older Subs and the Sub C. You'll always wish you had if you don't, and it'll just end up costing you.

This is actually not the 100% truth. I owned both and sold the C as I found it, IMHO, too attention grabbing. However, you will find many here who own both and cherish both equally.

[Jfullm42]

I've owned both a 16610 K serial and now a new 114060 Sub C as well as a Sea Dweller 16600 P serial. Loved the older ones till I tried on my new Sub C with glide lock. For me it was no comparison. Go try the new ones on if you haven't already. Not knocking the old style, just prefer the new.

[up2nogood]

Don't think it possible to get sand under a sub c bezel.
Dirt, yes. Sand, no.
I have a C, a 1680, 16600 and just sold a 16613. I was an anti new case guy, but turned.
Love the 1680 though. And the 16600 is a marvel in how thin it is, given its depth rating. Kind of embarrasses all other dive watch makers.

[GA1911]

I was contemplating the same decision, 5513 or 14060, and in the end went with 14060m. I don't think you go wrong with either of these or a C, but like many have said, try them on and decide what works for you.

[kier333]

Have you consider a 214270, I have had and sold a few Rilex models over the years, and the explorer -39mm I currently have is by far the most understated, classic tool watch money can buy, and they are an absolute steal at the price you can pick them up.

[Archduke]

I don't think you would get sand under the ceramic bezel insert, but you probably could get it under the actual bezl, and if so it would be abrasive.

If this is a worry, it would probably be far more of a problem on an older watch.

Solution:

Buy a Sub C Date for daily wear - yes it is a blocky case but not too big or heavy for a man to wear;

Buy a vintage 5513, 14060, 1680 for weekends;

Buy a G-SHOCK for the beach / diving.

[jk88]

I went into my AD yesterday evening and tried on all the Sub Cs.

Granted I wasn't able to size them, I feel like the Oyster bracelet is somewhat uncomfortable compared to both my jubilee and super jubilee bracelets. I'm sure that I'll get used to.

I'm really kind of falling for the non-date model... I wish I could make a decision.

[phils]

Originally Posted by jk88

Forgive my revival of this old thread -- I still haven't made a decision but I'd like the above question answered please.

If sand does get inside the bezel and you don't soak/rinse to clean it out and you turn the bezel a lot, it could, in time, wear some of the metal.
As for choices, you don't state what you mean by vintage. The 16610 Sub. is not vintage.
Real vintage like 5513, 5512, 1680, etc. means that the lume is probably gone, bracelets are stretched, plastic crystals are scratched or will be, old tritium may be falling out, will need careful and expensive service, etc.
IMO if I were you I'd try for a nice 16610 or bite the bullet for a new Sub.c.

[pjorio]

if you want a tool watch, a diver, go for the DSSD, no other comes even close....

[Cc1966]

Originally Posted by Broker Boy

I own new and old. The guys suggesting you go vintage very likely don't own a Sub C...but wish they did.

....

C'mon mate! I own several of each and that's not the deciding factor.

[jk88]

Originally Posted by pjorio

if you want a tool watch, a diver, go for the DSSD, no other comes even close....

I tried one of those on -- I don't think I could ever get used to that size and heft.