Quite a disturbing encounter with an officer of the law...

[SUBversive]

On a better note the moth radio hour yesterday had a story from a retired 20 yr NYC cop about the loss of his puppy. Well worth the google. Sorry for no link.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by Brushpup

A really lousy excuse for a cop. A terrible one who gives any good an decent ones a bad name.

Patrick, not meaning to single out your response, it was just one of many similar ones, yours was near the bottom so i grabbed it

just some food for thought, imho it would be fair to consider that unless you were there and had all the information of what happened before and what happened during, it is premature to judge the situation.

we would all like a fair trial so to speak and condemning the P.O. based on one mans account, though it may be 100% accurate as he feels he experienced it, is premature imho.

i have many times been in situations where co-workers were present at the same time for the same situation, yet reported very different accounts of what had happened.

A mans past personal experience, will influence his account of his future personal experiences.

in the end as i have said above, ill taking a good talking to vs the ticket almost always.

most importantly, the OP handled the situation as i would have and in his best personal interest.

To argue with the P.O. for principle or for the sake of arguing will most likely make things worse, the bottom line is if dealing with a confrontational civilian, the P.O. gets paid to win, not lose… why even think about escalating a situation like that?

there are so many of those who chose to be defiant, who were in fact innocent of any wrong doing, but wound up on the headlines of their local if not national papers because their encounter ended with them being shot.
if you haven't seen it, check out the film ''Fruitvale Station" it will make your blood boil… no matter who is right vs wrong, the P.O. has a difficult job and is paid to win, one moment he may be running into a gun fight, the next moment someone is asking for directions on main street… it is a balancing act to walk the tightrope and deal with people on both sides, being both authoritative and courteous while also being ever ready for the possibility of someone trying to do you harm.
Don't argue with the P.O., be courteous, go home to your famliy and vent to friends at home and on TRF or wherever

sincerely

[lavaman]

as an ex LEO, I don't like to hear these stories because, as someone said, it makes those of us who try to do right by the awesome responsibility we have have a harder time of it

that being said, unless you have done the job, don't come back with assumptions and hatred.

sounds like the deputy was a bit of a jerk. or maybe your calm demeanor put him off guard because he expected attitude.

who knows

don't get me started on "racial profiling". there is no need for it in good law enforcement, and the reality is that humans, by our nature, look for patterns. it once kept us from being food for cheetahs. I will leave it at that. the rest of it is just, in my opinion, a boogeyman. in your case, it sounds like CLASS profiling may have been it, i.e. tattoos + young guy + bling?

thank you for your service sir. long may you run

[Piloto]

First, I am sorry for your experience.

Like you, I went into the military at 17. I got out and became a LEO. Tallying up my full time and reserve time, I did 25 years as an officer of the law. I'm in my third career now. I am SORRY you had this experience. Honestly, I am on the fence as to whether or not I'd file a complaint against the guy... Do you have any friends at the local PD or SO? If so, I'd probably go that route. Let them know about the DB and put some peer pressure on him.

Sounds like a case of officer "burnout" to me. He saw a young man with a gold watch and lots of tats and immediately assumed gangbanger... Wrong assumption obviously. Years ago, he would have been objective, in which case you would have not stood out and been stopped at all. OR, he would have gotten legitimate probable cause (PC) for the stop, and told you what it was. Now, with a case of burnout going for him, anyone that does not look like they are driving home from church is suspect. Add to this there was absolutely no professionalism on the stop.

I'm with Lavaman. Sounds more like class profiling as opposed to race. He saw all the ink, and gold watch. Who knows what else triggered him... Type of car, clothing, time of day/night, high crime area??? But no PC? NOT RIGHT.

This has actually happened to ME once or twice in the past. The officers reaction was quite funny when he realized he tagged an off duty cop for no reason. Can you say deer in the headlights...

This guy was wrong for being a jerk. Plain and simple. Remember, this will be the 1%. In my 25 years, 99% were of the people I worked with were totally on the up and up. Like every career, there will be the 1%. Don't let it ruin your perception of the other 99%. THANK YOU for your service.

[Knappo 1307]

I obviously came late to this thread. The OP said he posted this thread within a hour of it happening? I think I'd be filing a report against the officer, rather than posting a thread on a watch forum.. Just my humble opinion.....

[SUBversive]

Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

I obviously came late to this thread. The OP said he posted this thread within a hour of it happening? I think I'd be filing a report against the officer, rather than posting a thread on a watch forum.. Just my humble opinion.....

Ya right like the customer care representative at the police dept. lol. His name is Hayward u. Buzzoff.

[Sunny Arizona]

This reminds me of a guy that I went to high school with and eventually we also played football at a small college in Illinois. Growing up this was the guy who would terrorize little kids and bully anyone he could find. He ended up getting kicked out of our college after his second year for reasons I don't know.
At one of our reunions I found out that he was an lapd officer. Omg I thought, those poor people out there.
Sometime in the 2004 range I found out he was fired from LAPD and indicted for insurance fraud. There is karma after all. I could just picture him shaking down small time drug dealers all over town.

[toph]

It happens. He may have been wrong and out of order but the law protects you too.
I'm sure he comes across many unsavoury characters and just does his best.

[Ravager135]

I've never felt profiled by an authority but the reason for that is obvious given my profile picture. To that end however I have experienced examples in public where I have not been taken as seriously because of my appearance: I am still relatively young looking, I shave my head pretty close, and spend most of my time not at work in sweats. I doubt the girl at the pizzeria knows I'm a physician and I very much doubt she even knows what a Rolex looks like anyway. At work I dress very preppy; the military taught me to dress sharp but look like a savage. I kind of of prefer it that way.

[shnxx]

I believe a Patek Philippe minute repeater would've flown under the radar.

What a fool.

[zama]

Living in Texas I am just glad nobody left with a cap in their ass, I believe that is how I have heard it described in US movies......

I think US law officials are very brave, I note they often travel alone on the road no matter how bad the area. I think our Australian cops always travel as pairs one approaching the driver the other in the car as back up.

Stereotyping is sad but probably goes with the territory, the ongoing behaviour at the car is probably unacceptable.

I have had a very young female US military person advance and point an M-16 at my face in an airport. She objected to an item in my hand luggage despite it being within the rules. I asked her politely to confirm that it was acceptable (having travelled with the same item a month earlier through 3 US airports and checking at check in again), she advanced and assured me I would be checking the item, turns out she was right. 60 minutes later I was back at the metal detectors...

Life is what it is, calm heads, keep our heads from being blown off.........

[zama]

By the way Dave it sucks to be a cop in the UK, you get to drive 4 cylinder hatches (gone are the might V6 Capri's of yesteryear), and don't carry a gun...... At least you got a stinger in the boot....... That should get them gove......

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

I obviously came late to this thread. The OP said he posted this thread within a hour of it happening? I think I'd be filing a report against the officer, rather than posting a thread on a watch forum.. Just my humble opinion.....

I think he was in a hurry for his first date which he also posted here.

[MP5]

Rob, just checking to see if you filed that complaint against the Amarillo PD. Their policy is not one and the situation you describe and your truthful complaint would go a long way to protect the public, families, and individuals in your community.

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[Puffy]

You should have said you're Neil Sedaka's son and asked "Is This the Way to Amarillo, I Am Looking For My Dru-u-u-ug-g-g De-e-e-a-l-l-lerrr"