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Tools · 4 August 2008, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ashe18c

Just got my ss white face daytona at a authorized dealer too last week. There is no laser etched crown. When i got it, the dealer said this one doesnt have it. I see a lot of new daytona's with the crown. Mine is a M series, the newest im sure of. My eyes are fine, it just simply isnt there. Do they simply make some of them without the laser etched crown.

They have been laser etching the crystal since about 2001 and the etched rehaut w/serial number has only been done during this past year (or couple for gold models).

If you have a "M" series Daytona, it should have both....Your Dealer is giving you some bad information....

Phill (UK) · 4 August 2008, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashe18c

Just got my ss white face daytona at a authorized dealer too last week. There is no laser etched crown. When i got it, the dealer said this one doesnt have it. I see a lot of new daytona's with the crown. Mine is a M series, the newest im sure of. My eyes are fine, it just simply isnt there. Do they simply make some of them without the laser etched crown.

It's definitely there... trust me!

AFAIK the only current model without the LEC is the GV Milgauss.

JJ Irani · 4 August 2008, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashe18c

Just got my ss white face daytona at a authorized dealer too last week. There is no laser etched crown. When i got it, the dealer said this one doesnt have it. I see a lot of new daytona's with the crown. Mine is a M series, the newest im sure of. My eyes are fine, it just simply isnt there. Do they simply make some of them without the laser etched crown.

Impossible!! It will be there. The only problem being that it is extremely difficult to spot the etching against a WHITE background. Against the darker dials like black and blue, it's easy to spot.

JJ

taylor · 4 August 2008, 05:11 AM

i can see the one on my gmt-IIC w/ the naked eye

ashe18c · 4 August 2008, 01:01 PM

mine is def authentic, still cant see it. will try to view it under a colored light or laser. thanks guys, at least i know its there somewhere..

ashe18c · 4 August 2008, 01:07 PM

OMG........ it is crazy small and almost impossible to see. I too a blue light and shinned it completely perpendicular to it. It is honestly barely visible with the white background. Definitely not visible by naked eye. Definitely not..
Thanks all of you, would have never found it. That was the last thing that puzzled me about this watch. Feel soo relieved now.

at7724 · 4 August 2008, 01:46 PM

i found my LEC. Used a flashlight and it took me a minute or so. now that I found it once, it only takes me a second under the right lighting conditions. thanks everyone.

Lisa · 4 August 2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by at7724

i found my LEC. Used a flashlight and it took me a minute or so. now that I found it once, it only takes me a second under the right lighting conditions. thanks everyone.

I could only see mine outdoors in the sunlight.

Z-Sub · 4 August 2008, 04:17 PM

It is very hard to see in date just with MOP and diamond dial.
My sports rolexes's are easy to spot.
We just go the 31mm DJ with MOP diamond dial. it wasn't until just now, at night with a flash that we were able to see the crown. even under bright light or using flash earlier we couldn't see the LEC.

davetruong · 15 August 2008, 07:19 AM

This the best image I have ever taken of the LEC (I'm kind of a freak like that) on my GMT.

Rolexitis · 15 August 2008, 01:12 PM

I can see mine when I have my watch hand at the 12 O'clock position on my steering wheel on a sunny day when the light hits it just right.....I'm 20/20

hsung · 11 September 2008, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tools

It's not easy to find...

It's smaller than the head of a pin and the focal point is the back side of the crystal.

For example, if you have on your loupe and are scanning with the dial in focus, you will never find it because it is above that and out of focus.

The best way is with the 10x loupe, light entering from the side of the crystal, then focus on the SWISS MADE and slowly pull the watch away from you until the crown comes into focus..

Side lighted, and notice everyting else is slighty out of focus..

Using Tool's instructions, I saw mine with the naked eye except it's out of focus. Initially, I had some doubts as to whether it was a smudge on the crystal, but it was still there after I wiped the spot

slimboyinhk · 17 January 2012, 03:56 PM

Found this posting extremely useful.

GradyPhilpott · 17 January 2012, 04:41 PM

An LED flashlight is a real help in spotting the LEC.

Grissom · 17 January 2012, 04:47 PM

It is, however, truly all about the light!!

HORNBLOWER · 18 January 2012, 12:33 AM

it may be an aftermarket replacement crystal.

Like To Watch · 18 January 2012, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

It's not easy to find...

What agreat photo.

Keeperoftime · 18 January 2012, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Alcan

They do. Here's one.

My U-Serial 16613 that was serviced now has this :)

gslaskin · 18 January 2012, 11:46 AM

Do the very latest models also have the crown on the crystal? Thanks.

DJJon · 18 January 2012, 12:45 PM

I finally found it using my phone's camera with the flash 'on' taken in a totally dark room. Came out great in the photo. I was getting a little concerned until I found a way to find it, but there it was in all its glory......................

Givmeabrek · 18 January 2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gslaskin

Do the very latest models also have the crown on the crystal? Thanks.

The latest models have the crown. My new daytona has it. Very tough to see on a white face but it is there!

mhaedo · 18 January 2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Orchi

Err buddy 1Mac Mike...Yes n No...you buddy...have a pair of keen eyes...n sharp knowledge of the watch...

n NO...as little as Orchi knows the Ref 16610 Submariner with holes on lugs...would certainly NOT have the LEC...

My Y serial also has both lug holes and the LEC.

wesdaniel · 19 January 2012, 01:27 PM

I couldn't find mine using a 4x loupe. Still don't know if it's there.

astrobi_astrobi · 8 February 2012, 08:58 PM

Found the coronet on my Explorer 114270 K series

Runnin' Rebel · 9 February 2012, 04:03 AM

From my LV

Lion · 9 February 2012, 04:21 AM

Mark, nice sub.....

Grissom · 9 February 2012, 04:23 AM

(Need to clean the watch, next time!)

Runnin' Rebel · 9 February 2012, 04:52 AM

Nice picture Nathan

astrobi_astrobi · 9 February 2012, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grissom

It is, however, truly all about the light!!

nice one. I wonder what camera did you use to capture the LEC beautifully.

NorthernPike · 9 February 2012, 03:40 PM

Here's mine:

4 August 2008, 04:17 PM	#69
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	It is very hard to see in date just with MOP and diamond dial. My sports rolexes's are easy to spot. We just go the 31mm DJ with MOP diamond dial. it wasn't until just now, at night with a flash that we were able to see the crown. even under bright light or using flash earlier we couldn't see the LEC. __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

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17 January 2012, 04:47 PM	#75
Grissom "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Nathan Location: US, Latin America Watch: GMT IIc 18K/SS Posts: 3,349	Finding and Photographing it can be tricky......but with perseverance it can be done It is, however, truly all about the light!! __________________ *(Member NAWCC since 1976)* 116713LN GMT-IIc 18k/SS (Z) + 116520 SS Daytona (M) + 16700 GMT Master (A) + 16610LV Submariner (V) + 16600 Sea Dweller (Z) + 116400 Milgauss White Dial (V) + 70330N Tudor Heritage Chronograph Grey w/Black Sub Dials (J) + 5513 Submariner Serif Dial (5.2 Mil) Who else needs an Intervention? (109 297) (137 237) (73 115) (221) (23) (56) (229) P-Club Member #5 RIP JJ Irani - TRF Legend

18 January 2012, 12:45 PM	#80
DJJon "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Jon Location: USA Watch: DJ - Need Sub Bad Posts: 1,889	I finally found it using my phone's camera with the flash 'on' taken in a totally dark room. Came out great in the photo. I was getting a little concerned until I found a way to find it, but there it was in all its glory...................... Attached Images

4 August 2008, 05:11 AM	#64
taylor "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: StL Posts: 447	i can see the one on my gmt-IIC w/ the naked eye

4 August 2008, 01:01 PM	#65
ashe18c Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Vincent Location: central jersey Posts: 78	mine is def authentic, still cant see it. will try to view it under a colored light or laser. thanks guys, at least i know its there somewhere..

4 August 2008, 01:07 PM	#66
ashe18c Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Vincent Location: central jersey Posts: 78	OMG........ it is crazy small and almost impossible to see. I too a blue light and shinned it completely perpendicular to it. It is honestly barely visible with the white background. Definitely not visible by naked eye. Definitely not.. Thanks all of you, would have never found it. That was the last thing that puzzled me about this watch. Feel soo relieved now.

4 August 2008, 01:46 PM	#67
at7724 Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Home! Posts: 148	i found my LEC. Used a flashlight and it took me a minute or so. now that I found it once, it only takes me a second under the right lighting conditions. thanks everyone.

15 August 2008, 07:19 AM	#70
davetruong "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Orange County Posts: 4	This the best image I have ever taken of the LEC (I'm kind of a freak like that) on my GMT.

17 January 2012, 03:56 PM	#73
slimboyinhk Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 27	Found this posting extremely useful.

18 January 2012, 12:33 AM	#76
HORNBLOWER "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Ben Location: Ireland Watch: 1 OR 2 Posts: 2,640	it may be an aftermarket replacement crystal.

18 January 2012, 11:46 AM	#79
gslaskin Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Minnesota, USA Posts: 429	Do the very latest models also have the crown on the crystal? Thanks.

19 January 2012, 01:27 PM	#83
wesdaniel 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Wes Location: California Watch: Varies Posts: 1,347	I couldn't find mine using a 4x loupe. Still don't know if it's there.

8 February 2012, 08:58 PM	#84
astrobi_astrobi "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Philippines Posts: 53	Found the coronet on my Explorer 114270 K series

9 February 2012, 04:03 AM	#85
Runnin' Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Mark Location: 🤔 Posts: 8,424	From my LV Attached Images __________________ ♛

9 February 2012, 04:21 AM	#86
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Mark, nice sub..... __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

9 February 2012, 04:23 AM	#87
Grissom "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Nathan Location: US, Latin America Watch: GMT IIc 18K/SS Posts: 3,349	From my 116713.......... (Need to clean the watch, next time!) __________________ *(Member NAWCC since 1976)* 116713LN GMT-IIc 18k/SS (Z) + 116520 SS Daytona (M) + 16700 GMT Master (A) + 16610LV Submariner (V) + 16600 Sea Dweller (Z) + 116400 Milgauss White Dial (V) + 70330N Tudor Heritage Chronograph Grey w/Black Sub Dials (J) + 5513 Submariner Serif Dial (5.2 Mil) Who else needs an Intervention? (109 297) (137 237) (73 115) (221) (23) (56) (229) P-Club Member #5 RIP JJ Irani - TRF Legend

9 February 2012, 04:52 AM	#88
Runnin' Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Mark Location: 🤔 Posts: 8,424	Nice picture Nathan __________________ ♛

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NorthernPike "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: LV, 1949 Everest Posts: 464	Here's mine:

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