Dodge Hellcat... HP CRAZY!!

[buckwheat]

BMF !!!!


bw

[wantonebad]

Originally Posted by watchdog507

Here's a review that's hot off the press.

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...ellcat-review/

very well written, I still want the Z28 though...

[c.rod]

wow. if its $65k loaded out that is the best deal HP wise and possibly coupe wise.
i would be all over that if i was in the market. (i also prefer "american" cars)

cant wait to see what these things are really doing after about 6mo once the tuners have got a hold of them and got rid of the emissions stuff..... im thinking with exhaust, headers, race tune, diff pulley with supercharger it will be another easy "reliable" 200hp...

[Greg G]

Originally Posted by c.rod

cant wait to see what these things are really doing after about 6mo once the tuners have got a hold of them and got rid of the emissions stuff..... im thinking with exhaust, headers, race tune, diff pulley with supercharger it will be another easy "reliable" 200hp...

It depends on the tuning software available for them. If tuners can tune them easily then we'll some huge numbers from them. The ease of tuning the factory computer is where GM has everyone covered. Dodge is not keen on *tuners* modding their cars. They want people to put gas in them and drive them. Like the Gen 4 Viper. Can't tune the factory computer because Dodge won't release the code, so no one has put a cam in one unless they went with a stand alone system like Motec. HP Tuners has software that they are beta testing for the Gen 4's, but the problem with it is that every time you change the tune the drive by wire software for the throttle body has to be re-flashed at the dealership.

[Brunotheboxer]

http://m.motortrend.com/roadtests/co...at_first_test/

[wantonebad]

Pretty sick kitty...

[Kingair]

I want one . . . .

25 mpg is still ok ;)

HAGOne Marc

[Brunotheboxer]

Still not as fast as the GT500.

[wantonebad]

Originally Posted by Brunotheboxer

Still not as fast as the GT500.

please explain...

[Brunotheboxer]

Originally Posted by wantonebad

please explain...

The 2013/14 mustang Shelby is faster 0-60 and faster in the quater mile than the hellcat and with a 6 speed to boot.

In reality it's a drivers race between the two cars.

[wantonebad]

Originally Posted by Brunotheboxer

The 2013/14 mustang Shelby is faster 0-60 and faster in the quater mile than the hellcat and with a 6 speed to boot.

In reality it's a drivers race between the two cars.

I hear you Bruno, you may very well be right, I don't know, but the manufacturers claim is that in a quarter mile for the current production year, nothing is faster.

[WANNAMILGAUSS]

I was big into early muscle cars and Hot Rods and am just blown away at the HP that is being pushed out the door these days. People swear their 427 Vette was a monster but now there are Benz's that will blow right past them.

I am in no way a tree hugger but it has to piss them off that in a day where they are pushing electric cars they are building 10 second cars off the showroom.

As far as the twists remember a lot has to do with a drivers preference. 911 and Vette drive exactly opposite and are both top game.

USA roads are built for stop light and instant power. Most people think a good handling car is a stiff wheel and a car that doesn't screech on an onramp. People aren't using 75% or these cars potential.

I wish they made a zero technology version. Check the box and you get A/C, radio and 700hp.

[CW3SF]

Originally Posted by Brunotheboxer

The 2013/14 mustang Shelby is faster 0-60 and faster in the quater mile than the hellcat and with a 6 speed to boot.

In reality it's a drivers race between the two cars.

Originally Posted by wantonebad

I hear you Bruno, you may very well be right, I don't know, but the manufacturers claim is that in a quarter mile for the current production year, nothing is faster.

lol, the Hellcat ran 11.2 on production street tires, hot track and with Richard freakin' Rawlings behind the wheel. It'll probably bust 10's this fall at ATCO, where the GT500 ran a best of 11.4 in the cold (according to SVT Drag Times)

[Brunotheboxer]

I continue to be very impressed by the Hellcat. This report pretty much confirms what everyone has been saying about this beast. I give MT credit for not seeking out a prepped strip for the tests. A quote from their report. "What about the 11.2-second quarter-mile time that Dodge has been trumpeting to the world? Well, half a second (11.7 seconds versus 11.2) is the difference between a prepped VHT surface and the street. All Motor Trend testing is done on asphalt, while Dodge got its big number on the strip."

[CW3SF]

Originally Posted by Brunotheboxer

I continue to be very impressed by the Hellcat. This report pretty much confirms what everyone has been saying about this beast. I give MT credit for not seeking out a prepped strip for the tests. A quote from their report. "What about the 11.2-second quarter-mile time that Dodge has been trumpeting to the world? Well, half a second (11.7 seconds versus 11.2) is the difference between a prepped VHT surface and the street. All Motor Trend testing is done on asphalt, while Dodge got its big number on the strip."

I am quite sure that the Shelby winter runs at ATCO used a prepped track. Best stock runs there in negative DA (critical for supercharged car) was an 11.4 according to SVT Drag Times. Sorry but I am still not seeing how the Shelby is quicker (granted, thats still a great ET for the Shelby).

[Brunotheboxer]

What about competition you can't buy new anymore, like -- for instance -- the recently discontinued 662-hp Shelby GT500? The lighter Snake needed only 3.5 seconds for its 60-mph blast and 11.6 seconds to go down the quarter mile with a trap speed of 125.7 mph. Slight advantage: Ford. That said, it's gone, so in terms of new-car sales, the Snake don't matter.

[CW3SF]

I stand corrected, i just found a thread with an 11.25 Shelby ET at ATCO in November.


Will be interesting to see what the Hellcat puts down in negative DA this winter. Great time to be a car nut.

[Brunotheboxer]

Originally Posted by Red Snake

I stand corrected, i just found a thread with an 11.25 Shelby ET at ATCO in November.


Will be interesting to see what the Hellcat puts down in negative DA this winter. Great time to be a car nut.

Plus it's a 6 speed.

All the hellcats times have been with the 8 auto.

[CW3SF]

True.

[scrappy]

The GT500 and Hellcat drag times will be forgotten once the new Z06 is released - which I predict will run low-mid 10's with 'only' 650hp. Stock McLarens run 10.30's with even less horsepower and torque. The Hellcat and GT500 each need to lose about 500 pounds.

[c.rod]

So the factory gt500 is discontinued?

I'm sure it will only be for a year or so until they bring out the new generation gt500 ...

[wantonebad]

[Brunotheboxer]

The numbers dodge got with the hellcat is not what real world drivers are recording. Not close so far. Not surprised because of its weight of ~4500 pounds. It's too big and too heavy in my opinion. It weighs ~600 pounds more than my Shelby yet only has ~40 more ponies. I think dodges numbers are bullshit if you ask me. Can't wait to pull up next to one.

[GB-man]

So safe to say that wasn't you bidding on example #1 at the auction Bruno? Good price on that one

http://blog.caranddriver.com/holy-he...rrett-jackson/

[wantonebad]

That's freakin' Crazy!! more then three quarters of a million dollars on a Dodge current year production model...

[Kingair]

Originally Posted by wantonebad

That's freakin' Crazy!! more then three quarters of a million dollars on a Dodge current year production model...

Bingo !

[GermanyMatt]

More like stupid.

[Brunotheboxer]

Originally Posted by GB-man

So safe to say that wasn't you bidding on example #1 at the auction Bruno? Good price on that one

http://blog.caranddriver.com/holy-he...rrett-jackson/

Check this one out too.



http://themustangsource.com/forums/f...4/#post6746501


I'd buy a hellcat just not before a gt500.

[Kingair]

Originally Posted by Brunotheboxer

Check this one out too.



http://themustangsource.com/forums/f...4/#post6746501


I'd buy a hellcat just not before a gt500.

I rather have the first one Bruno ;-)