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David Maddern · 25 January 2010, 01:47 PM

Hi Larry,

How are you ?

Can you please tell me, if you know of course ? Is the current Deep sea ( 2009 / 2010 manufacture ) larger than when the watch was first released ? The reason i ask is that your post claims the deep sea is 43mm and the Rolex website today claims the deep sea to be 44mm ?

Thanks in advance Larry .

Kind regards

David

Gagebuilder · 25 January 2010, 03:54 PM

Hello, David, and welcome to the forum!

There has been no size change to the DSSD. For whatever reason, likely marketing, Rolex said the first releases were 43 mm and has since decided to call the latest model 44 mm, even though they are exactly the same size.

I am not 100% sure when DSSD production started and was released to the public. The only difference in releases is the letter that the serial number starts with. Some are "M" serial which Rolex started using in mid 2007, but I think the DSSD was not actually released until early 2008, and newer ones are "V" serial which started mid 2008, but they are still identical watches.

I hope this helps, and I am enjoying mine.

David Maddern · 26 January 2010, 11:08 AM

Hi Doug and thanks for your kind reply ,

I appreciate very much the information you have offered .

Can you also confirm the actual size of the watch as an owner ? Its killing me to know the real size

thanks in advance

David

Gagebuilder · 28 January 2010, 05:29 PM

Sure! I have not done this yet. I have calipers, at work so I'll get back to you with what I find.

Gagebuilder · 29 January 2010, 06:19 PM

Wow, I know see how Rolex is playing with the size numbers of this watch. The easy numbers:

Bezel diameter=43.05mm
Thickness=17.70mm
Width over crown=47.84mm
Case "length", lug tip at 12 side to lug tip at 6 side=51.96mm
---(case is over 2 inches tall)
overall case width, including crown guard=45.5mm

Now, I played around quite a bit with the case measuring and it is a bit subjective as the case is tapered. That is, the case is a bit wider where the case is nearest to the wrist and it tapers as it goes to the bezel. If you go by the bezel, it is definitely a 43 mm watch.The case is 44 mm wide from the gas escape valve to the start of the radius for the crown guard, well approximately. Measuring from 2 o'clock to 10 o'clock, the narrowest part af the case, the thickest part is about 44.5 mm and the narrowest point as about 43.2 mm.

This was pretty neat, examining my dssd this way.

David Maddern · 29 January 2010, 11:06 PM

Hi Doug,

I cant thank you enough , i was going around the bend trying to find this information and was getting nowhere . I must say I'm relieved also to here its 44mm + ( at least somewhere ) as a large watch is what the deepsea should be .

I should imagine Larry will also appreciate you going to so much trouble and perhaps he will include your findings in his fantastic initial thread ?

I'm even more jealous of your deepsea now and hope you get many years of pleasure glancing at the time .

sincerely

David

Gagebuilder · 30 January 2010, 04:23 PM

My pleasure, David!

I wore it to work the last 2 days and my co-worker has told me I need to write my will this weekend, with the DSSD going to him!

Yeah, it's a keeper.

AJAX · 31 January 2010, 07:17 AM

Great post! Thanks!

acuraelin · 29 April 2010, 04:24 PM

Great information guys! I love the deep sea if all goes well im picking on up tomorrow :D
I guess the questions is, for people who wear dress shirts, does it slide in your sleeves easy?

NutNut · 29 April 2010, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Does anyone know how many links come on that baby? Like how many on the '12' side and how many on the '6' side?

Thanks - JJ

Based on the picture, I'm counting 5 links on the 6 o'clock side and 7 links on the 12 o'clock side. Am I right?

bokmeipai · 29 April 2010, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JYogi

I do not like these threads!
They make me want it more
yet they make me realize I do not dive (well not anymore but would like to start again (heck they would only be reefs I wouldn't even test the depths of the Sub))
They make me realize I could get a GMT II or A GM II C and an explorer etc.... (I could get two Rolexs (perhaps both second hand) for the price of one watch whose limits I will never test. Whose a bit big for my 6 3/4 in wrist.
BUT at the same time I think it looks really great, is quite a feat to create, I will be one of the first one the block with it and heck who cares NO ONE will EVER test the limits of it (even you SERIOUS divers) BUT many are getting it.
Why do I want this more than two Rolexs I have wanted for eons?

Come on, someone tell me why I am an idiot getting the DSSD and not 2 others or why I am lucky to be getting the DSSD and it will look fine on my wrist like my Breitling does (pics posted)

The larger size case and thickness makes this a very masculine watch. You will appreciate the larger size. I have an average wrist and when I put this on it just "pops", a real thing of beauty. If you get the chance to try one on you will be sold.

sea-dweller · 3 May 2010, 02:46 AM

Good technical info on the DSSD !

mhmfao · 9 May 2010, 12:38 PM

Does anyone know the diameter of the flanged spring bars on the SDDS watch band and how far they extend into the case lug?

Is it the same as the GMTIIC (.90mm diameter extending 1.00mm into the case lug?

I have concerns that the SDDS may have been under engineered in this area.

V/R,
Michael

Tools · 9 May 2010, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhmfao

Does anyone know the diameter of the flanged spring bars on the SDDS watch band and how far they extend into the case lug?

Is it the same as the GMTIIC (.90mm diameter extending 1.00mm into the case lug?

I have concerns that the SDDS may have been under engineered in this area.

V/R,
Michael

Shear strength on a spring bar is quite high.... I'm not sure what criteria you would use to determine that it is "under engineered". I also don't see that it will ever experience any more torque applied to it than any other Rolex...... Certainly the little bit of extra weight of the DSSD is not significant when it comes to load on the spring bars.........

The spring bar and the endlink on the DSSD is 21mm and so it uses a completely different end and spring bar from the GMT II..

Mystiqz · 9 May 2010, 05:45 PM

thanks for the data

mlotus95 · 18 May 2010, 04:09 AM

awsome watch.

bokmeipai · 24 May 2010, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marrk

Man, this watch is giving me severe bracelet envy.

Guess the GMT IIc has the same bracelet . . . ?

The GMT IIc bracelet does not have the glidelock.

firnatine · 14 June 2010, 06:37 AM

Hello,
I am new here. What is the difference between a V and M series deepsea dwellers. Thanks in advance.

Gagebuilder · 14 June 2010, 09:16 AM

Welcome!

There is no difference, they are identical. Rolex changed the case spec. from 43 mm to 44 mm, but there was no actual change in case size.

Well, other than the "M" is the first year made, "V" was made later or "newer."

Side note: I've had my "M" for 6 months now and it will be the last watch I'll ever sell, if I go broke!

sparky_magoo · 14 June 2010, 09:30 AM

My DeepSea is my third Rolex since 1982. I beat the hell out of it while wearing it. I have beat the hell out of my past two Submariners. Rolex's are made for abuse. Stop worrying about your Rolex. Years from now, you can sell it for a profit and buy a new one.

dinan545bmw · 17 June 2010, 02:14 AM

The fact that all this uber engineering, techological advances and robust waterproofness and toughness was designed with both flair and handsome styling to boot, and can be worn conveniently and rather comfortably on most folk's wrist, is a true testament to Rolex's design and manufacturing prowess & acumen.

Very well done indeed by Rolex!! It's truly one amazing piece all right and something I'm very proud to own and enjoy daily. Wear it in a good health ALL!!

Great technical information on the watch also. Simply awe inspiring stuff, really - a lot really went into this puppy for sure!!

I printed out a copy for reference and my reading pleasure. Many thanks again for sharing! BEST REGARDS

SoCal C4S · 13 December 2010, 10:21 PM

I know this is an old thread, but thanks for all of the technical data. I am looking to get one of these soon, as it is my grail watch. I have a 14060 Sub ND, and even though I always wanted that watch, I just have to have one of these. Gotta love Rolex! :D

dinan545bmw · 14 December 2010, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal C4S

I am looking to get one of these soon, as it is my grail watch. I have a 14060 Sub ND, and even though I always wanted that watch, I just have to have one of these. Gotta love Rolex! :D

Yes, it's really an amazing timepiece and I continue to wear her with pride and total enjoyment and pleasure! Suffice to say, it's definitely my everyday grail piece! Sure others feel likewise.

You certainly have impeccable taste. Hope to see you join our exclusive DSSD fraternity in due time!!

BEST REGARDS

SoCal C4S · 14 December 2010, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinan545bmw

Yes, it's really an amazing timepiece and I continue to wear her with pride and total enjoyment and pleasure! Suffice to say, it's definitely my everyday grail piece! Sure others feel likewise.

You certainly have impeccable taste. Hope to see you join our exclusive DSSD fraternity in due time!!

BEST REGARDS

It is an awesome timepiece. I will wear it in rotation with the rest of my loved watches, but I have a feeling this one will get more wear. I plan to "join the club" in mid-February. I already have a trade/sale in the works for my Rolex Sub, so I am pretty excited.

thesmallwave · 14 December 2010, 04:23 AM

Thanks for such detailed informations about the Deep Sea Larry.
Can you please give us detailed informations about the Sub C?I want to find about the watch everything possible.
Regards, Levi

DatejustRyan · 14 December 2010, 10:07 AM

I was told that there is no serial number located between the lugs on the 116600, only at the six position on the rehaut engraving. Is this information correct? Are there any other tell tale signs to prove it's authenticity? Reason I ask, is I am buying one second hand and want to be sure I am getting the real McCoy. Does anyone have a shot of the movement?

Thanks in advance!

livilexi · 14 December 2010, 12:33 PM

I just lost the bezel in the snow, while scraping off the ice on my car......I didn't notice until hours later.....and now the plows cleaned that road.
What do I do now? Should I wait until spring and get a metal detector?
It's my late Uncles.........I'm crushed :''(

KirkWilfred · 19 December 2010, 08:32 PM

Great post........20K posts? wow!

RUSH2689 · 22 December 2010, 11:07 PM

What a beautiful watch! Not being a fan of the cyclops I'm juggling my first rolex decision as a 14060, 16600, and now this beautiful Deep Sea!

dinan545bmw · 23 December 2010, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUSH2689

What a beautiful watch! Not being a fan of the cyclops I'm juggling my first rolex decision as a 14060, 16600, and now this beautiful Deep Sea!

yes, the DSSD is indeed a very gorgeous, yet rugged and superbly engineered timepiece worthy of a place amongst Rolex's impressive lineup.

You simply can't go wrong with the 14060, 16600 or even the DSSD. After all, they are Rolexes through and through! Best of luck with your decision making process.

BEST REGARDS

25 January 2010, 03:54 PM	#62
Gagebuilder "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Doug Location: Detroit Area Watch: out for yelow snow Posts: 1,067	Hello, David, and welcome to the forum! There has been no size change to the DSSD. For whatever reason, likely marketing, Rolex said the first releases were 43 mm and has since decided to call the latest model 44 mm, even though they are exactly the same size. I am not 100% sure when DSSD production started and was released to the public. The only difference in releases is the letter that the serial number starts with. Some are "M" serial which Rolex started using in mid 2007, but I think the DSSD was not actually released until early 2008, and newer ones are "V" serial which started mid 2008, but they are still identical watches. I hope this helps, and I am enjoying mine. Last edited by Gagebuilder; 25 January 2010 at 04:19 PM.. Reason: adding

31 January 2010, 07:17 AM	#68
AJAX "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: USA Watch: "The Beast" DSSD Posts: 152	Great post! Thanks! __________________ Rolex DEEPSEA Sea-Dweller "V" Series

3 May 2010, 02:46 AM	#72
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	Good technical info on the DSSD ! __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

9 May 2010, 12:38 PM	#73
mhmfao Removed Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Mike Location: Tokyo Watch: 16600K (lug holes) Posts: 182	SDDS Spring Bar Question Does anyone know the diameter of the flanged spring bars on the SDDS watch band and how far they extend into the case lug? Is it the same as the GMTIIC (.90mm diameter extending 1.00mm into the case lug? I have concerns that the SDDS may have been under engineered in this area. V/R, Michael

14 June 2010, 06:37 AM	#78
firnatine "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: malta Watch: super avenger Posts: 1	V and M Hello, I am new here. What is the difference between a V and M series deepsea dwellers. Thanks in advance.

25 January 2010, 01:47 PM	#61
David Maddern "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 25	Hi Larry, How are you ? Can you please tell me, if you know of course ? Is the current Deep sea ( 2009 / 2010 manufacture ) larger than when the watch was first released ? The reason i ask is that your post claims the deep sea is 43mm and the Rolex website today claims the deep sea to be 44mm ? Thanks in advance Larry . Kind regards David

26 January 2010, 11:08 AM	#63
David Maddern "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 25	Hi Doug and thanks for your kind reply , I appreciate very much the information you have offered . Can you also confirm the actual size of the watch as an owner ? Its killing me to know the real size thanks in advance David

28 January 2010, 05:29 PM	#64
Gagebuilder "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Doug Location: Detroit Area Watch: out for yelow snow Posts: 1,067	Sure! I have not done this yet. I have calipers, at work so I'll get back to you with what I find.

29 January 2010, 06:19 PM	#65
Gagebuilder "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Doug Location: Detroit Area Watch: out for yelow snow Posts: 1,067	Wow, I know see how Rolex is playing with the size numbers of this watch. The easy numbers: Bezel diameter=43.05mm Thickness=17.70mm Width over crown=47.84mm Case "length", lug tip at 12 side to lug tip at 6 side=51.96mm ---(case is over 2 inches tall) overall case width, including crown guard=45.5mm Now, I played around quite a bit with the case measuring and it is a bit subjective as the case is tapered. That is, the case is a bit wider where the case is nearest to the wrist and it tapers as it goes to the bezel. If you go by the bezel, it is definitely a 43 mm watch.The case is 44 mm wide from the gas escape valve to the start of the radius for the crown guard, well approximately. Measuring from 2 o'clock to 10 o'clock, the narrowest part af the case, the thickest part is about 44.5 mm and the narrowest point as about 43.2 mm. This was pretty neat, examining my dssd this way.

29 January 2010, 11:06 PM	#66
David Maddern "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 25	Hi Doug, I cant thank you enough , i was going around the bend trying to find this information and was getting nowhere . I must say I'm relieved also to here its 44mm + ( at least somewhere ) as a large watch is what the deepsea should be . I should imagine Larry will also appreciate you going to so much trouble and perhaps he will include your findings in his fantastic initial thread ? I'm even more jealous of your deepsea now and hope you get many years of pleasure glancing at the time . sincerely David

30 January 2010, 04:23 PM	#67
Gagebuilder "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Doug Location: Detroit Area Watch: out for yelow snow Posts: 1,067	My pleasure, David! I wore it to work the last 2 days and my co-worker has told me I need to write my will this weekend, with the DSSD going to him! Yeah, it's a keeper.

29 April 2010, 04:24 PM	#69
acuraelin Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: S.Cali Posts: 41	Great information guys! I love the deep sea if all goes well im picking on up tomorrow :D I guess the questions is, for people who wear dress shirts, does it slide in your sleeves easy?

9 May 2010, 05:45 PM	#75
Mystiqz "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NY, NY Watch: Zenith A3818 Posts: 45	thanks for the data

18 May 2010, 04:09 AM	#76
mlotus95 Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: pa Watch: GMT master II Posts: 600	awsome watch.

14 June 2010, 09:16 AM	#79
Gagebuilder "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Doug Location: Detroit Area Watch: out for yelow snow Posts: 1,067	Welcome! There is no difference, they are identical. Rolex changed the case spec. from 43 mm to 44 mm, but there was no actual change in case size. Well, other than the "M" is the first year made, "V" was made later or "newer." Side note: I've had my "M" for 6 months now and it will be the last watch I'll ever sell, if I go broke!

14 June 2010, 09:30 AM	#80
sparky_magoo Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Mark Location: RENO Watch: Deep Sea Posts: 64	My DeepSea is my third Rolex since 1982. I beat the hell out of it while wearing it. I have beat the hell out of my past two Submariners. Rolex's are made for abuse. Stop worrying about your Rolex. Years from now, you can sell it for a profit and buy a new one.

17 June 2010, 02:14 AM	#81
dinan545bmw Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 365	The fact that all this uber engineering, techological advances and robust waterproofness and toughness was designed with both flair and handsome styling to boot, and can be worn conveniently and rather comfortably on most folk's wrist, is a true testament to Rolex's design and manufacturing prowess & acumen. Very well done indeed by Rolex!! It's truly one amazing piece all right and something I'm very proud to own and enjoy daily. Wear it in a good health ALL!! Great technical information on the watch also. Simply awe inspiring stuff, really - a lot really went into this puppy for sure!! I printed out a copy for reference and my reading pleasure. Many thanks again for sharing! BEST REGARDS Attached Images

13 December 2010, 10:21 PM	#82
SoCal C4S "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: RJ Location: The MidWest Watch: SD43 Posts: 324	I know this is an old thread, but thanks for all of the technical data. I am looking to get one of these soon, as it is my grail watch. I have a 14060 Sub ND, and even though I always wanted that watch, I just have to have one of these. Gotta love Rolex! :D

14 December 2010, 04:23 AM	#85
thesmallwave Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Levi Location: Romania & England Watch: Sub C Black Posts: 568	Thanks for such detailed informations about the Deep Sea Larry. Can you please give us detailed informations about the Sub C?I want to find about the watch everything possible. Regards, Levi

14 December 2010, 10:07 AM	#86
DatejustRyan "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Ryan Location: Boston, NYC Watch: PP5712R Posts: 476	I was told that there is no serial number located between the lugs on the 116600, only at the six position on the rehaut engraving. Is this information correct? Are there any other tell tale signs to prove it's authenticity? Reason I ask, is I am buying one second hand and want to be sure I am getting the real McCoy. Does anyone have a shot of the movement? Thanks in advance!

14 December 2010, 12:33 PM	#87
livilexi "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ontario Watch: 1987 Sea Dweller Posts: 1	I just lost the bezel in the snow, while scraping off the ice on my car......I didn't notice until hours later.....and now the plows cleaned that road. What do I do now? Should I wait until spring and get a metal detector? It's my late Uncles.........I'm crushed :''(

19 December 2010, 08:32 PM	#88
KirkWilfred "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Brian Location: West Hartford, CT Watch: 116710LN Posts: 1,224	Great post........20K posts? wow! __________________ “Time is an illusion.” – Albert Einstein

22 December 2010, 11:07 PM	#89
RUSH2689 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: USA Watch: Recon Posts: 253	What a beautiful watch! Not being a fan of the cyclops I'm juggling my first rolex decision as a 14060, 16600, and now this beautiful Deep Sea!

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