Tudor Black Bay Black or Sub ND?

[Sublovin]

Originally Posted by Mr Daytona

It will if you don't like any of Rolexes offerings but like the Tudors. Just because it says Rolex on the dial doesn't make it "holy of all holies" in the watch world. I like my Rolexes and my Tudors but there are definitely certain things I like better about Tudor and other brands for that matter.

yes and no....I agree with you that Rolex is not for everyone, but the question posed is if a Tudor will scratch the itch for someone who wants a Rolex, and I think that easy answer is no.
There are tons of great watch names out there, and Tudor is certainly one, but there is only one Rolex.
Same reason I wouldn't recommend someone buy a Rolex if they desire a Patek.....wont work

[Mr Daytona]

Originally Posted by Sublovin

yes and no....I agree with you that Rolex is not for everyone, but the question posed is if a Tudor will scratch the itch for someone who wants a Rolex, and I think that easy answer is no.
There are tons of great watch names out there, and Tudor is certainly one, but there is only one Rolex.
Same reason I wouldn't recommend someone buy a Rolex if they desire a Patek.....wont work

In the context of the question asked by the OP, you and I agree.

My comment was meant more in general. I believe so many miss out on other brands because of their myopia and infatuation with a "name". I was guilty of this many, many years ago when I was new to the watch hobby.

[Dismount]

Originally Posted by Sublovin

This can't be a serious question...no, a Tudor will not satisfy your wanting a Rolex. A Tudor is not a Rolex, and if you want a Sub, get a Sub.
All this fanfare recently for the Tudor is starting to confuse some....a Tudor is not gonna satisfy the desire to own a Rolex anymore than an Omega, Oris, or any other brand would, because it is not a Rolex.

This guy is thinking clearly.

[Pangit]

The Black Bay Black has satisfied my itch for now. However, I also have a BLNR, a DJII and a speedmaster. It might have been a different decision if it was my only watch but I am fortunate in that I can enjoy it as a complimentary addition to my collection.

[Hotrod297]

I don't think the BB will scratch the itch. Why? Because as nice as it is, it's still not a ROLEX. It'll sooth your itch for a while, but that itch will come back until you get a Rolex.

[harshad4005]

My vote goes to


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[jjnd08]

Not a fan of the big lugs and skinny bracelets on the subs, I've never been a fan of the hour hand of subs and GMTs either.

BBN gets my vote.

[anirudh.412]

Used 14060 + almost new (used) BBN. Problem solved

Between your choices, the Sub ND

[rmurphy]

Originally Posted by Mr Daytona

The one thing I like about you is you like a watch for the watch, not because of the name on the dial.

I'm the same way. I just got rid of my Sub for a brand new two liner Pelagos and put money in the bank as well. I can buy another sub anytime I'm ready.
That to me is the cool thing about watches ... Lots of different strokes for different folks.


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[ernie2]

For me, being comfortable with a Tudor is a journey, a psychological journey.
I now wear my BBBlack and THC daily on weekly rotations. And I have an EXP I, EXP2-42MM, SD4K in my safe that I have not worn for months.

If I have my Tudors first, I guess I will be "wanting" to have a Rolex. Afterall, Rolexes are more WANTS than NEEDS.

My current 2 Tudors really got the watch spirit I am looking for and fit my lifestyle much better. To me, Rolexes have become more jewelry than a useful life accessory. Wearing a $10K SD4K needs to be careful not to bang it , scratch it or get mugged. But wearing a $3K Tudor is more carefree. If I scratch it, break it or it got stolen, it is not so bad. Tudors are respectable watches made by Rolex and I get the quality and product confidence, and even the prestige associated with them.

I think the current Tudor renaissance really brings back the true tool watch spirit of the early days Rolex. Great design, great quality and reasonable price points. I am now really thinking about selling my Rolexes and just be happy with my 2 Tudors.

[Mr Daytona]

Originally Posted by ernie2

For me, being comfortable with a Tudor is a journey, a psychological journey.
I now wear my BBBlack and THC daily on weekly rotations. And I have an EXP I, EXP2-42MM, SD4K in my safe that I have not worn for months.

If I have my Tudors first, I guess I will be "wanting" to have a Rolex. Afterall, Rolexes are more WANTS than NEEDS.

My current 2 Tudors really got the watch spirit I am looking for and fit my lifestyle much better. To me, Rolexes have become more jewelry than a useful life accessory. Wearing a $10K SD4K needs to be careful not to bang it , scratch it or get mugged. But wearing a $3K Tudor is more carefree. If I scratch it, break it or it got stolen, it is not so bad. Tudors are respectable watches made by Rolex and I get the quality and product confidence, and even the prestige associated with them.

I think the current Tudor renaissance really brings back the true tool watch spirit of the early days Rolex. Great design, great quality and reasonable price points. I am now really thinking about selling my Rolexes and just be happy with my 2 Tudors.

Post of the day right here.

[Black Bay Dan]

Originally Posted by ernie2

For me, being comfortable with a Tudor is a journey, a psychological journey.
I now wear my BBBlack and THC daily on weekly rotations. And I have an EXP I, EXP2-42MM, SD4K in my safe that I have not worn for months.

If I have my Tudors first, I guess I will be "wanting" to have a Rolex. Afterall, Rolexes are more WANTS than NEEDS.

My current 2 Tudors really got the watch spirit I am looking for and fit my lifestyle much better. To me, Rolexes have become more jewelry than a useful life accessory. Wearing a $10K SD4K needs to be careful not to bang it , scratch it or get mugged. But wearing a $3K Tudor is more carefree. If I scratch it, break it or it got stolen, it is not so bad. Tudors are respectable watches made by Rolex and I get the quality and product confidence, and even the prestige associated with them.

I think the current Tudor renaissance really brings back the true tool watch spirit of the early days Rolex. Great design, great quality and reasonable price points. I am now really thinking about selling my Rolexes and just be happy with my 2 Tudors.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by ernie2

For me, being comfortable with a Tudor is a journey, a psychological journey.
I now wear my BBBlack and THC daily on weekly rotations. And I have an EXP I, EXP2-42MM, SD4K in my safe that I have not worn for months.

If I have my Tudors first, I guess I will be "wanting" to have a Rolex. Afterall, Rolexes are more WANTS than NEEDS.

My current 2 Tudors really got the watch spirit I am looking for and fit my lifestyle much better. To me, Rolexes have become more jewelry than a useful life accessory. Wearing a $10K SD4K needs to be careful not to bang it , scratch it or get mugged. But wearing a $3K Tudor is more carefree. If I scratch it, break it or it got stolen, it is not so bad. Tudors are respectable watches made by Rolex and I get the quality and product confidence, and even the prestige associated with them.

I think the current Tudor renaissance really brings back the true tool watch spirit of the early days Rolex. Great design, great quality and reasonable price points. I am now really thinking about selling my Rolexes and just be happy with my 2 Tudors.

Absolutely agree with this, and am in a similar boat. Also, the more banged up the Tudor Heritage watches get, the better they look. There's something quite appealing to me, too, about the anti-brand coolness of an unRolex made by Rolex.

[jt-]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Absolutely agree with this, and am in a similar boat. Also, the more banged up the Tudor Heritage watches get, the better they look. There's something quite appealing to me, too, about the anti-brand coolness of an unRolex made by Rolex.

You two win the award for best posts on this thread! Love the anti-brand coolness comment as well. I absolutely "get it". Tudor is channelling that old Rolex vibe that seems to be missing in the current model range and presents a great alternative.

[maxbaris]

Originally Posted by Jack T

No one ever dreams of owning a Tudor.

This.

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[Runfar]

I think the answer is in those photos! Best of
Luck you know what to do!

[brettpaul]

I'd have to say ND Sub of the two...both are great watches, but the Glidelock on the Sub seals the deal for me!

[blcblc]

I have rolex but still want tudor. To answer OP's question, i choose BB black, not because i don't like Sub ND but because i am waiting for BB black to arrive at my AD

[ernie2]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Absolutely agree with this, and am in a similar boat. Also, the more banged up the Tudor Heritage watches get, the better they look. There's something quite appealing to me, too, about the anti-brand coolness of an unRolex made by Rolex.

Adam you are so ahead of me in the watch zen realm, I appreciate my Tudors but not enough to enjoy getting them banged up. The other day I saw the first scratch on my BBBlack's left polished side and a tear came down quietly. I still don't understand how I got all my watches' left sides scratch up since they do not make contact with anything and I do not rest my watches on the sides.

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by Bluside

Thanks for all the replies. I have a feeling I would still want the Sub even after the BB. I've been down this expensive road before with other things.

Even if you go down the path of getting both whats so bad about it? You act as if having two watches is a bad thing. Both are great watches and well worthy of a place in a collection. I've got the 14060 and the BBR, had the 114060 and find the other two far more wearable. What ever decision it will be a good one.

[Luap1976]

I think a banged up and faded tudorblackbay would look great tool look.but a banged up sub c would not look as good.
I think the metal bezel of the blackbay will fade after time?

[Black Bay Dan]

Originally Posted by Jack T

No one ever dreams of owning a Tudor.

Originally Posted by maxbaris

This.

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Au contraire. I am having many dreams of owning a Tudor Heritage Black Bay 79220R.

Dan

[Bluside]

OP here...Well, I was at the mall today looking at both the Tudor BBN and the Rolex Sub ND. Had to go to 2 different dealers to look at them and couldn't hold them side by side.

One of the stores was having a big watch manufacturers' expo with reps from all kinds of high end brands. This jewelry store used to carry Rolex but not now. I spent quite a bit of time one on one with the Tudor rep and learned all sorts of things about the company and its history.

After a bit of wrist time, I was able to negotiate a discount on the only Black one they had in stock.

As of this moment, the Sub itch has been scratched. I liked the Black Bay in person much better than the pictures I've seen. We'll see how long that lasts, but right now I am pretty happy.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by arguetaoscar

Similar but different...
Get the Sub first... Since the BB is really hard to find at a discount for now.



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Nice pic and tough choice... probably go Subc first too.

[Black Bay Dan]

Get the Black Bay - I did this afternoon and am very happy with my choice!

Dan

[JohnLT]

Had the same dilemma with the Pelagos and Sub. Ended up getting both

[Bluside]

Originally Posted by JohnLT

Had the same dilemma with the Pelagos and Sub. Ended up getting both

Well done. That may be in future also.

[SLS]

Sub
Tudor
Subc
would be my choice. Just not a fan of the wider case and ceramic insert.

[Evo6]

This may help...
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=442976

Honestly the BBN is really growing on me. Especially on NATOs...


If you're a bracelet guy the SubC wins otherwise the BBN is a knockout.

[Bobsolanki]

I have the BBB and I can't take it off my wrist, but I'm in the hunt for the hulk. That being said, whatever is in your budget. The price point of the Tudor is a steal for the vintage look. But you'll never be able to shake the feeling of wanting a sub until you have one.