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Old 15 March 2016, 02:05 AM   #61
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I completely agree but it's a discussion. Are you trying to suppress free speech? I'm feeling the burn here.
I just feel you made your point about 15 comments and 4 threads ago. We all know you don't agree with the fact that some people "abuse" their "luxury" items. We got it.
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Old 15 March 2016, 02:13 AM   #62
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Why not drop a little sand down the spark plug holes of the Ferrari?
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Old 15 March 2016, 02:14 AM   #63
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This is awesome. I have way more respect for this than the freshly polished/brushed watches or the guy who puts a strip of scotch tape on his bracelet everytime he sits at his desk. This is a watch that is lived in. This is what makes these watches great. I don't know dr Tom but I can see a story and an experience in every one of those imperfections
well it really isn't done on purpose, life just happens and I don't worry about the small stuff
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Old 15 March 2016, 02:19 AM   #64
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This absolutely has to be a combination of macho BS and a wealth gap.

Brett I have to respectfully disagree with you on this one, as for myself, I don't purposely try and abuse anything and I am not macho or wealthy, just a hard worker

but this makes me think of my friends that own Porsches and think I am crazy to race mine cause it might hurt them or mark them up, same thing
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Old 15 March 2016, 02:43 AM   #65
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well it really isn't done on purpose, life just happens and I don't worry about the small stuff
This is right. If you have to take your watch off to live your life as you see fit whats the point. Just get rid of the thing. These are not priceless pieces of art work, they're just gears encased in steel, gold and/or platinum. Abuse, use or pamper as you wish, either way is not going to mater much. It's a depreciating asset you lost resale value the second the cashier gave you a receipt, a scratch here or there is going to change this fact.
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Old 15 March 2016, 02:47 AM   #66
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What's your point? All car manufacturers take every model they build and smash it into a wall to test its safety. Are you suggesting that Ford or Mercedes want you to do that with your vehicle?

I suppose any manufacturer would like you to destroy their product as quickly as possible so that you could purchase another one. I will suggest that to my customers this week.
My point is that these watches are tested vigorously and are made to last. Something as innocent as yard work shouldn't have an effect on the watch other than a few scratches. He didn't take a hammer to it.

You have your opinion on how a watch should be taken care of and others have their own. Just so you know, I take mine off when I'm working in the yard.
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Old 15 March 2016, 02:50 AM   #67
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I just feel you made your point about 15 comments and 4 threads ago. We all know you don't agree with the fact that some people "abuse" their "luxury" items. We got it.
Fair enough. I was just hoping the enthusiastic commentators would show and do a video of them purposely abusing their Rolex. I'll not comment further on the subject and await the pictures and or videos.
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Old 15 March 2016, 02:54 AM   #68
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Brett I have to respectfully disagree with you on this one, as for myself, I don't purposely try and abuse anything and I am not macho or wealthy, just a hard worker

but this makes me think of my friends that own Porsches and think I am crazy to race mine cause it might hurt them or mark them up, same thing
I think you are the nicest and coolest guy on this forum Tom. To me racing Porsche built to be raced and subjecting a Rolex to indiscriminate damage are two different things. Let's just agree to disagree.

PS- you by far have the best pictures here. Thanks!!!
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Old 15 March 2016, 02:54 AM   #69
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Old 15 March 2016, 03:13 AM   #70
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Fair enough. I was just hoping the enthusiastic commentators would show and do a video of them purposely abusing their Rolex. I'll not comment further on the subject and await the pictures and or videos.
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I think you are the nicest and coolest guy on this forum Tom. To me racing Porsche built to be raced and subjecting a Rolex to indiscriminate damage are two different things. Let's just agree to disagree.

PS- you by far have the best pictures here. Thanks!!!
thanks Brett and I really don't think we "disagree" I think it is more like semantics. I think you may be considering people doing stuff with the watch on in harms way and "purposely abusing their Rolex" as the same thing when actually it is two different things

I have never really seen anyone on this forum or anywhere purposely abuse their watch, that really would be just foolish!

Need to meet up and do lunch sometime, we are fellow Tampons!
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Old 15 March 2016, 03:58 AM   #71
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Old 15 March 2016, 04:00 AM   #72
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Wow...surprised to see such strong feelings in this thread.

I guess its all perspective and what you are comfortable with. When I was ready for my first Rolex, a buddy from my unit connected me with his brother in law who worked at an AD. My buddy wore a Sub everywhere. One time I was helping him bust up concrete and hauling chunks of it away and he was wearing it. I thought he was nuts and talked about it with his brother in law when I was buying.

Fast forward a number of years and I'm quite comfortable with wearing my Sea Dweller pretty much anywhere, doing anything. Having more money now probably helps, but $8-10k is still a lot of money to me so not like it's an "I don't care, I'll get another" attitude. I have just found as time goes on, it handles things well and I just want to wear it and enjoy having it on. Prior to the 116600 (SD-C) I wore a 16600 SD in the same manner.

I'm a bit more careful with the rest, largely because I seem to have trouble keeping them around - I want other things, I may need to sell first.

Now that said, if I'm going bumper surfing down the street, I'll take it off

On another note: for a time I wore a Luminox watch when in the military (infantry). Pins popped on the strap and I lost it - they functioned like the "no holes" case we see on our Rolex now. I was annoyed and didn't bother replacing it. SD with lug holes and pins fully set there seemed to hold up quite well - those against watch abuse within this thread would not want to hear what it went through. However, this pic is of it towards the end of my time...while using it, I kept it well maintained. Aside from some scratches and a dinged edge on the crystal, it was in great shape.
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Old 15 March 2016, 05:15 AM   #73
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Forum culture versus Rolex culture in general? Plus i think it comes down to a casual display of wealth in some cases. In general, i subscribe to the safest place on the wrist, but feel better about taking it outdoors than in sketchy neighborhoods in general. I gamble too much not to respect the possibility of long odds.

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Old 15 March 2016, 05:47 AM   #74
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There's a Rolex for every fit and function of your life. So I say enjoy a Rolex no matter what your doing ...
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Old 15 March 2016, 06:15 AM   #75
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Forum culture versus Rolex culture in general? Plus i think it comes down to a casual display of wealth in some cases. In general, i subscribe to the safest place on the wrist, but feel better about taking it outdoors than in sketchy neighborhoods in general. I gamble too much not to respect the possibility of long odds.

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It's nothing to do with "display of wealth." That sounds pretentious! It's a different thing doing normal chores with a watch that is meant to be worn as a daily driver. But a high end full good Day-Date or some other über expensive piece, to do any sort of manual labor in insane IMO. The SS models are meant to be worn and worked in. I just hate the wealth display idea and feel it is insulting and pretentious. That's then end for me!


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Old 15 March 2016, 07:32 AM   #76
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I have been wondering the same thing. I get not worrying about minor scratches and such but to me, in my humble opinion, this is bordering the ridiculous. Now if $13,000 is an absolute minuscule amount of money to a person then I can completely understand this. I take very good care of all my expensive things but there is a difference between not becoming overly obsessive about a scratch on your BMWs grill from a rock on the freeway and taking that same $90,000 car offroad in the mud. I would like to know how many people here purposely beat the crap out of their $10,000-$70,000 Rolexs just for kicks. And if you do why and also what other expensive luxury items do you do this to? Thanks. Should be some interesting answers. Perhaps we should start a thread on this question.

One more thing I had to add. All the people celebrating this type of behavior do you do the same thing to your watches? If so I would love to see pictures of you in the middle of beating the crap out of your watch. Thanks!
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Like with the original poster's sub, we're not celebrating the willful destruction of an expensive asset, we're celebrating a machine being used by its owner in a way that pushes its capabilities, and in a way that most won't.

There's a big difference between wearing your Rolex Sub while doing dirty work, than wearing a Patek Phillipe minute repeater while mixing cement. I wear my explorer everywhere (okay, truth be told, if I know I'm going to be doing cement work, I'll put on my Citizen EcoDrive) - swimming in the ocean, gardening, renovating etc - not to destroy it, but because I value time spent with the asset doing normal activities above the preservation of the asset its self. If that means the watch isn't going to last 50 years, so be it. I'll have it repaired, or if it breaks, I'll sell it for parts an buy another.

That said, I wouldn't do the same thing with a Patek Phillipe Perpetual Calendar or Minute Repeater. We all have a threshold of how much money is too much to risk. That amount generally increases along with your disposable income. I'd risk damaging a $10,000 watch, but not a $50,000 watch.

Same with a car. I don't "celebrate" when a new scratch appears in the cargo area of my BMW X5M, nor do I go out of my way to damage it. However, I'm not going to hitch up a trailer, take my wife's car, or line the boot with a blanket out every time I have cargo to transport. I work in IT, and the reason I drive an X5 rather than a M5 is because I need to move stock and computers - part of that car's job is to move cargo, I'm not going to loose sleep over lost value if it suffers excessive wear - nor am I going to drive a slow-arse car every time I think I'm going to have to move stuff.
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Very well said and that sums up my feelings as well

PS - I still can't get over how beautiful Dr Tom's photo is
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Like with the original poster's sub, we're not celebrating the willful destruction of an expensive asset, we're celebrating a machine being used by its owner in a way that pushes its capabilities, and in a way that most won't.



I agree with most of ur post... But this is kinda funny.

I hardly think using the sub for yard work is "pushing its capability"

U wanna use sub to push its limits? go deep-diving with it. Preferably, beyond the 1000ft mark

Bottom line is: it's ur watch and ur money. Do whatever makes u happy.
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Very well said and that sums up my feelings as well

PS - I still can't get over how beautiful Dr Tom's photo is
Still waiting for your personal anecdote. I'm counting on you doing it on purpose since this thread was started. Lead by example as General Patton would say.
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This controversy can be avoided in the future if a new Pro Series model specifically geared towards gardening is released at Basel. Rolex, are you listening?

In the meantime, OP, perhaps since Mud is thought of as being wet dirt rather than clingy, super-dirty water, you could have avoided catching flak if you had worn an Earth sign Explorer instead of a Water sign Sub. Don't have one? Well, here's your excuse to go shopping!
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Old 15 March 2016, 09:23 AM   #81
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When I was in the Army and stationed in Germany back in 1987-1990, I got drunk and threw my SS datejust with engine turned bezel into the washing machine to see if it would survive, and it did just fine. Not sure if that counts as abuse or not but it was fun. (At the time anyway)
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It can take it. In fact, it probably loved it!

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=463669

You were saying
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Old 15 March 2016, 01:18 PM   #85
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Sorry guys, but I have to call a spade a spade. Only a moron would applaud a watch that looks like it was put into a cement mixer filled with gravel. This is not normal use and it's not cool, it's abuse plane and simple. I have watches, vehicles and firearms that I've used hard over the years and they have a patina reflecting that use, but they' were also treated with respect. Yes, you can do whatever you want with your watches and if you want to trash them that's your business but it's just not something that I can respect.
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Sorry guys, but I have to call a spade a spade. Only a moron would applaud a watch that looks like it was put into a cement mixer filled with gravel. This is not normal use and it's not cool, it's abuse plane and simple. I have watches, vehicles and firearms that I've used hard over the years and they have a patina reflecting that use, but they' were also treated with respect. Yes, you can do whatever you want with your watches and if you want to trash them that's your business but it's just not something that I can respect.
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This controversy can be avoided in the future if a new Pro Series model specifically geared towards gardening is released at Basel. Rolex, are you listening?
LOL! I love it! That's what the teaser is on the website, it's a brand new Rolex Tree-Dweller.
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... a brand new Rolex Tree-Dweller.
The round dial plots will be replaced with stylized pines cones on the men's Tree-Dweller and flower blossoms on the lady's. There will be a 4th hand and associated quad-colored bezel to indicate the current season, solstices, and equinoxes.

The target market will be old hippies spending their kid's inheritance, neo-Druids and modern Gaia priestesses, and Millenials who never once voluntarily picked-up their room or took out the garbage growing up but want an easy way to display their great concern for someone to go clean up the planet.
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