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SWISSAHOLICS · 29 March 2016, 02:49 AM

That's wrong especially coming from a trusted seller with plenty of references as stated by the OP in the initial post. And then to alter the year and send the watch with a date that is in the future? Sad to see this happening here.

TheRolexKingofLV · 29 March 2016, 02:49 AM

Definitely been altered.

RichM · 29 March 2016, 02:51 AM

I would think by now the seller should be aware of this post. It would be nice if you stood up and responded to the OP concerns instead of him naming you.

ilovewatchestoo · 29 March 2016, 02:58 AM

Whether the seller altered the card themselves or not doesn't matter. The seller should not have sold a watch with that card. It's concerning that they did.

Who is the seller?

Al1969 · 29 March 2016, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Mickol

I would think by now the seller should be aware of this post. It would be nice if you stood up and responded to the OP concerns instead of him naming you.

X2

Stuxnet · 29 March 2016, 03:02 AM

2010 changed to 2016. That's pretty clear.

incontrol · 29 March 2016, 03:02 AM

Great thread! It sure is obvious the date has been falsified. We should really know who produced this. I have bought from several trusted sellers without an issue, but this looks bad for whoever produced this.

mmutte · 29 March 2016, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovewatchestoo

Whether the seller altered the card themselves or not doesn't matter. The seller should not have sold a watch with that card. It's concerning that they did.

Who is the seller?

x2. Agreed. Surely a 'trusted seller' would recognize this as suspect and try to inquire further from his/her source. But certainly this shouldve been disclosed by the seller.

cdmorenot · 29 March 2016, 03:17 AM

I still fail to understand why people hesitate so much to name a trusted seller when there is an issue but we run to the the BBB, Yelp and Google when there is a hair in our $5 sandwich.

The truth is everything creates awareness.

Positive feedback, neutral and negative feedback are all equally important.

I've added "warranty date scrutiny" under my to do list.

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Jocke · 29 March 2016, 03:20 AM

I took a closer look at it too.

Saoirse32 · 29 March 2016, 03:22 AM

This may have already been covered but perhaps the AD did NOT swipe the card, hence the odd post date?!? I see both sides but I know that in the past, this community has reasoned for a need to know regarding dealings such as these. OP, good luck, I hope it works out for you.

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kingSubTT · 29 March 2016, 03:44 AM

I need to know the name of this trusted seller. It is possible it is no fault of the seller, the AD messed it up, however due diligence is required from the seller. After all this is a $10K+ item. I would check everything 10 times before shipping.

DPE · 29 March 2016, 03:51 AM

If you keep asking questions on a purchase, then it is telling you it is wrong. You will never be 100% happy. I would return for a full refund on the grounds that it is not what it seems or has enough reasonable doubt on the date alone. Send it back and lets hope that no one else gets caught with watch.

mannyv11 · 29 March 2016, 03:57 AM

I am subscribed to this thread...

05carbondrz · 29 March 2016, 04:03 AM

It's been changed for sure,Send it back on the Sellers Dime.

kilyung · 29 March 2016, 04:05 AM

We should put up a new subforum for the sleuths on here. We could call them RCIS - Rolex Criminal Investigative Service.

brandrea · 29 March 2016, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jocke

I took a closer look at it too.

Can see it very clearly here

Nice work Jocke

xcnbing · 29 March 2016, 04:09 AM

Looks altered to me...you can see where the "5" was before the year was re-traced. Nobody draws a "6" like that.

Al1969 · 29 March 2016, 04:13 AM

Why the continued mystery? When will the seller be revealed?

watchwatcher · 29 March 2016, 04:13 AM

Well...that pretty much tells the story. Do we have any updates on this thread?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jocke

I took a closer look at it too.

Saoirse32 · 29 March 2016, 04:52 AM

This may have already been covered but perhaps the AD did NOT swipe the card, hence the odd post date?!? I see both sides but I know that in the past, this community has reasoned for a need to know regarding dealings such as these. OP, good luck, I hope it works out for you.

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Mr. K · 29 March 2016, 05:09 AM

Ouch. Sorry to hear about this. If this was sketchy, wonder what else may be. If it was the AD or the trusted sellers, makes no difference as something funky is going on for sure.

Just hope it isn't repackaged and resold to another unsuspecting person.

For me, something that costs this much has to be free from any and all indicators of fraud.

Good luck.

RolexPete · 29 March 2016, 05:15 AM

That was a 5...no ifs, ands or

GolfPunk · 29 March 2016, 05:20 AM

What if the original AD had genuinely wrote the date as 2015 as a genuine mistake forgetting it was 2016, it can happen if not concentrating.

That said, why it is 24th April 2016 when we are still in March is very suspect on its own.

Danex · 29 March 2016, 05:31 AM

The seller must be revealed and account for this. I'm certain there is another side to the story.
The date is obviously tampered with and it inconceivable the seller did not know it. IMHO.

jrs146 · 29 March 2016, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmutte

It was my understanding that the cards are swiped at the AD upon purchase; therefore, it shouldn't matter what is written on the card and based on this fact whether tampered with or not (which it looks to me as being tampered with) it should register the original sales date once swiped again.

I am correct in saying this??

Rolex is VERY clear in stating that a warranty is VOID if the warranty card has been tampered with. I once received a watch with the original buyers name erased off. I called RSC NY and they told me that this is OK for them. BUT, if the dealer stamp or the date are messed with - it will not be honored.

Vaxe · 29 March 2016, 05:45 AM

Ask for $600-$900 discount and if the watch checks out, all is well.

Otherwise, return postage paid and let us know the name of the seller.

Dyim · 29 March 2016, 05:45 AM

Interested in seller's explanation.

Gharddog03 · 29 March 2016, 05:54 AM

Interesting.........

pacific17 · 29 March 2016, 06:06 AM

i would return it and have the seller cough up the funds for shipping. it looks pretty clear that it has been altered. also, OP needs to reveal the name.

29 March 2016, 02:49 AM	#61
SWISSAHOLICS "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Here! Watch: Rolex Posts: 4,366	That's wrong especially coming from a trusted seller with plenty of references as stated by the OP in the initial post. And then to alter the year and send the watch with a date that is in the future? Sad to see this happening here. __________________ 16610LN \| 16613LB \| 16710 Pepsi \| 118238 \| 116500 (White) \| 116500 (Black) \| 116710BLNR \| 116610LV "The one thing I fear most is time; time waits for no one and leaves no options."

29 March 2016, 02:49 AM	#62
TheRolexKingofLV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Trace Location: Vegas/Bay Area Posts: 9,234	Definitely been altered. __________________ Official Host "The Penthouse Party" Las Vegas 2018 Instagram @tracenunes

29 March 2016, 02:51 AM	#63
RichM 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Real Name: Richie Location: "Nowhere Man" Watch: out now,take care! Posts: 29,753	I would think by now the seller should be aware of this post. It would be nice if you stood up and responded to the OP concerns instead of him naming you. __________________ "I love to work at nothing all day" TRF #139960

29 March 2016, 03:17 AM	#69
cdmorenot 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Carlos. Location: NNJ - MDE Watch: = Want them all. Posts: 3,697	I still fail to understand why people hesitate so much to name a trusted seller when there is an issue but we run to the the BBB, Yelp and Google when there is a hair in our $5 sandwich. The truth is everything creates awareness. Positive feedback, neutral and negative feedback are all equally important. I've added "warranty date scrutiny" under my to do list. Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk __________________ \| Breguet \| Cartier \| Casio \| Hublot \| IWC \| Omega \| Rolex \| Seiko \|

29 March 2016, 03:20 AM	#70
Jocke 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jocke Location: Sweden Watch: A dozen of Rolex's Posts: 22,541	I took a closer look at it too. __________________ This message is written in perfect swenglish. What is best a custom Rolex or a Rolex that is stuck in custom? Buy a professional camera and you´re a professional photographer, buy a flute and you own a flute.

29 March 2016, 02:58 AM	#64
ilovewatchestoo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Real Name: Eric Location: California Watch: 114060 Posts: 425	Whether the seller altered the card themselves or not doesn't matter. The seller should not have sold a watch with that card. It's concerning that they did. Who is the seller?

29 March 2016, 03:02 AM	#66
Stuxnet Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: NYC Posts: 570	2010 changed to 2016. That's pretty clear.

29 March 2016, 03:02 AM	#67
incontrol "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Kevin Location: Somewhere in PA Watch: All of them... Posts: 10,355	Great thread! It sure is obvious the date has been falsified. We should really know who produced this. I have bought from several trusted sellers without an issue, but this looks bad for whoever produced this.

29 March 2016, 03:22 AM	#71
Saoirse32 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 1,066	This may have already been covered but perhaps the AD did NOT swipe the card, hence the odd post date?!? I see both sides but I know that in the past, this community has reasoned for a need to know regarding dealings such as these. OP, good luck, I hope it works out for you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ PANERAI Luminor 8 Days GMT “Dot” Dial (PAM00233) PANERAI Submersible (PAM01055) PANERAI Radiomir (PAM01385) ROLEX Sea-Dweller Mk1 (126600) ROLEX DeepSea D-Blue (136660) OMEGA Speedmaster “Silver Snoopy Award” (310.32.42.50.02.001) OMEGA Seamaster Diver 300M 75th Anniversary (210.30.42.20.03.003) IWC Chronograph Top Gun Edition “Woodland” (IW389106)

29 March 2016, 03:44 AM	#72
kingSubTT "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: USA Watch: SmurfDaytonaBLNR Posts: 682	I need to know the name of this trusted seller. It is possible it is no fault of the seller, the AD messed it up, however due diligence is required from the seller. After all this is a $10K+ item. I would check everything 10 times before shipping. __________________ White Daytona 116520, Sub 116619LB, GMT II BLNR

29 March 2016, 03:51 AM	#73
DPE "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: uk Posts: 1,050	If you keep asking questions on a purchase, then it is telling you it is wrong. You will never be 100% happy. I would return for a full refund on the grounds that it is not what it seems or has enough reasonable doubt on the date alone. Send it back and lets hope that no one else gets caught with watch.

29 March 2016, 03:57 AM	#74
mannyv11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Manny Location: MA Watch: DD,Sub,GMT,Daytona Posts: 4,510	I am subscribed to this thread...

29 March 2016, 04:03 AM	#75
05carbondrz Banned Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,030	It's been changed for sure,Send it back on the Sellers Dime.

29 March 2016, 04:05 AM	#76
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	We should put up a new subforum for the sleuths on here. We could call them RCIS - Rolex Criminal Investigative Service.

29 March 2016, 04:09 AM	#78
xcnbing "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: uk Posts: 4	Looks altered to me...you can see where the "5" was before the year was re-traced. Nobody draws a "6" like that.

29 March 2016, 04:13 AM	#79
Al1969 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 6,640	Why the continued mystery? When will the seller be revealed? __________________ WG SUB-116719 GMT MASTER II 126719

29 March 2016, 04:52 AM	#81
Saoirse32 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 1,066	This may have already been covered but perhaps the AD did NOT swipe the card, hence the odd post date?!? I see both sides but I know that in the past, this community has reasoned for a need to know regarding dealings such as these. OP, good luck, I hope it works out for you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ PANERAI Luminor 8 Days GMT “Dot” Dial (PAM00233) PANERAI Submersible (PAM01055) PANERAI Radiomir (PAM01385) ROLEX Sea-Dweller Mk1 (126600) ROLEX DeepSea D-Blue (136660) OMEGA Speedmaster “Silver Snoopy Award” (310.32.42.50.02.001) OMEGA Seamaster Diver 300M 75th Anniversary (210.30.42.20.03.003) IWC Chronograph Top Gun Edition “Woodland” (IW389106)

29 March 2016, 05:09 AM	#82
Mr. K "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Mark Location: Seattle-ish Posts: 6,078	Ouch. Sorry to hear about this. If this was sketchy, wonder what else may be. If it was the AD or the trusted sellers, makes no difference as something funky is going on for sure. Just hope it isn't repackaged and resold to another unsuspecting person. For me, something that costs this much has to be free from any and all indicators of fraud. Good luck.

29 March 2016, 05:15 AM	#83
RolexPete "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Peter Location: Massachusetts Watch: 214270 Mk2 Posts: 1,963	That was a 5...no ifs, ands or __________________ 2016 Explorer 214270 Mk2 - 1996 Submariner 14060* - 1972 Datejust 1601 1972 Oyster Perpetual 1002 - 1978 Oysterquartz 17000 Omega Seamaster 2265.80 - Omega Seamaster 300 166.0324 *RIP PAL 1942-2015

29 March 2016, 05:20 AM	#84
GolfPunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Gary Location: UK Watch: WG Daytona Posts: 4,398	What if the original AD had genuinely wrote the date as 2015 as a genuine mistake forgetting it was 2016, it can happen if not concentrating. That said, why it is 24th April 2016 when we are still in March is very suspect on its own. __________________ ♕ Rolex Daytona White Gold 116509 (Ghost) ♕

29 March 2016, 05:31 AM	#85
Danex "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Dan O Location: Park City, UT Watch: Cosmograph Daytona Posts: 741	The seller must be revealed and account for this. I'm certain there is another side to the story. The date is obviously tampered with and it inconceivable the seller did not know it. IMHO. __________________ -Dan, WIS In Training 116520 Cosmograph Daytona 116622 & 16622 Yacht-Master 114060 & 14060 Submariner

29 March 2016, 05:45 AM	#87
Vaxe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Austin TX Posts: 2,122	Ask for $600-$900 discount and if the watch checks out, all is well. Otherwise, return postage paid and let us know the name of the seller.

29 March 2016, 05:45 AM	#88
Dyim "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 2,237	Interested in seller's explanation.

29 March 2016, 05:54 AM	#89
Gharddog03 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Genaro Location: Fresno Ca. Watch: R O L E X Posts: 4,466	Interesting.........

29 March 2016, 06:06 AM	#90
pacific17 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Owie Location: MNL/SFO Watch: G-Shock DW003 Posts: 1,504	i would return it and have the seller cough up the funds for shipping. it looks pretty clear that it has been altered. also, OP needs to reveal the name. __________________

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