Rolex warranty card, how important

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by ronricks

What is the saying about a fool and his money?

We get it: the original warranty paperwork is trash for you after the warranty is expired; however your opinion is not shared by everyone.......


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[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by xjeeunitx

To prove your point, are you willing to post a video of yourself shredding any expired cards or papers you might have?

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[Andad]

Today I thought I would put my old K 14060M back on its bracelet.

My wife located the box and inside was the original certificate from 2002, the hologram, the service certificate and matching ticket from 2008, the original (and looks it) Rolex cloth, the Submariner booklet and the bracelet in basically brand new condition not having been on the watch since the 2008 service.
Now to me if that is not worth top dollar at resale compared to a similar model with nothing then I would be very surprised.
Don't put all your certificates in the same forged envelope Mick.
Could be you have been around negative, dishonest people for too long?

[PaulChronometer]

Originally Posted by JimMiller

Unless one loves to gamble, it only makes sense to buy GM if the GM price plus the cost of a repair is significantly less than the AD price. If this isn't true (and it isn't for some popular Rolexes), then it makes sense to buy from the AD. If the watch has problems, you can pay for the repairs yourself, take it to any trusted/reliable watchmaker (even Rolex), and still come out ahead.

It depends. Some grey market dealers provide the full set, including warranty card with the "originating" AD's name on it, and with customer's name left blank. Apparently these GM dealers have good connections to an AD.

So I think buying GM can be perfectly fine, but it helps to figure out beforehand the differences among GM dealers.

Based on what I have seen, a GM dealer that provides the original warranty, will be somewhat more expensive than other GM dealers.

[User1978]

It depends by the watch and your purpose.
The value for a vintage watch is in the time peace itself. Even if you will have to sell it, it's value would not change enough. How buys vintag, looks at the original warranty as a plus not a must.
For moderns depends on the purpose. If sooner or later you will sell it than the warranty rise up quite a lot the future selling price than without. If it is your "for life" watch the warranty shoud not mean anything.
IMO

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Today I thought I would put my old K 14060M back on its bracelet.



My wife located the box and inside was the original certificate from 2002, the hologram, the service certificate and matching ticket from 2008, the original (and looks it) Rolex cloth, the Submariner booklet and the bracelet in basically brand new condition not having been on the watch since the 2008 service.

Now to me if that is not worth top dollar at resale compared to a similar model with nothing then I would be very surprised.

Exactly my point! It is worth, beleive it. Here is an example of a full set on an S Series 16610, which I bought new on 1995 and have been serviced by RSC Dallas twice:



Nothing there trash material!



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[Mick P]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Could be you have been around negative, dishonest people for too long?

Mr E

I suppose the answer to that is yes. Forged documents were, and still are, a serious threat to anyone printing warranties and gift coupons etc.

The simple fact of life is that the forgers caught up with the genuine printers about 25 years ago. Even bank notes are under threat.

Even now we have TFR members explaining how a full set of papers and cards is pushing up the value of their watch by several hundred Dollars / Pounds and this is true. Unfortunately these documents can be reproduced for pennies so the potential for a less than honest person to spend $50 on fake papers and then to add say $500 to price of the watch is enormous.

I would be hard pushed to tell the difference and believe me, so would you.

If I could have you for a day and take you to a "black museum" at a security printer, you would look at any bit of paper in a totally different light.

Regards

Mick

[masyv6]

Very important!

[faz]

When I see a regular seller ( someone local with a regular job) selling an item with full original papers intact, it gives me peace of mind. That peace of mind adds value in my book.

general public are not masters of forgery, and if I am buy a used car with its original windows stickers still available, I wouldn't think the person went out of his way to forge those documents. If I am buying a used Rolex from a private seller whose day job is an engineer or doctor or bank teller, I don't assume they forged the papers. May be they did, but what are the chances?

I myself have misplaced important papers that i know are somewhere in my garage etc. , but probably wouldn't be able to find them at a notice. If I were to sell my watch with papers still lost in my garage somewhere , would that make me a stolen goods seller? Of course not. So I agree with those that say buy the watch not the papers, but if papers were around, it would sure add that added peace of mind to the equation.